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NEWS FLASH

just saw on Fox News that the steamboat NATCHEZ had a fire while in "drydock" for renovations in New Orleans.

I did not realize that it was actually steam powered------sorry I can't post the news link, but it will show up in the news for you.

Hope it did not harm the steam WHUSTLE.

This news hit me like a sledgehammer------I love those old riverboats.

Here is to you old friend!!!!!!

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WHOOOOOOOOO-----Whoooo----whooo!!  

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I realize this is comparing oranges to apples. They're both from trees and round. But I would almost bet that the famed Prestolite (acetylene gas) tanks may have preceded the oxygen cylinders? I couldn't believe that I couldn't come up with a photo of my Prestolite tank on a converted golf bag cart with my Prestolite soldering torch. I guess I'm getting too old to be trusted here, Anson? I had one on the farm that sold at auction. But I made this setup about a dozen years ago. (So, after I get over this cold [my daughter in-law says "Covid,"]) I'll be sure to get a photo and put it on here after the fact. But to save my bacon from frying, here is a Prestolite soldering iron that I have! I've never seen another one.

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Before the advent of the Prestolite tanks, most automobile companies furnished their cars with messy carbide generators. This is Roger's 1911 Model T Ford Open Runabout, sporting the generator he rebuilt and restored for it. (This is the Model T Roger has put in his will for me!) These drip water down into the carbide pellets in the lower tank. That builds pressure and furnishes the gas for the carbide headlights. That "white mud" in the lower tank is very messy stuff. I remember walking through the "mud puddle" Uncle Audie left, after washing out our carbide acetylene generator on the farm when I was about two or three. Mom was pi....d; well, she was darn mad for what I'd done to my shoes.

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This is a fancy "automobile" type Prestolite tank. They were sometimes nickel plated and looked pretty on the running board. They also had a gauge on the bottom end to show the automobile owner how much (or little?) he still had, in case he really needed to know! The generic soldering tanks of today don't have this fancy stuff.

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This is a right hand drive automobile with a Prestolite tank on the running board for operating the headlights.

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This is a 1913 Model T Ford Bakery Van with a Prestolite tank on the left running board.

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I don't believe Henry Ford furnished Prestolite tanks on his automobiles? He may have? But his ignition keys for a couple of years had a square hole punched in the keys for opening that Prestolite tank valve. 

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So I don't know what this had to do with oxygen tanks for acetylene welding torches, but it does show that the development of pressurized tanks was going strong early on.  Gary😁

 

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7 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

NEWS FLASH

just saw on Fox News that the steamboat NATCHEZ had a fire while in "drydock" for renovations in New Orleans.

I did not realize that it was actually steam powered------sorry I can't post the news link, but it will show up in the news for you.

Hope it did not harm the steam WHUSTLE.

This news hit me like a sledgehammer------I love those old riverboats.

Here is to you old friend!!!!!!

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WHOOOOOOOOO-----Whoooo----whooo!!  

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DD

Quite a few years ago we were invited to bid on refurbishing the boilers o the Bell of Louisville. The Coast Guard requirements didn't line up with ASME codes and we walked away. Always wondered what finally happened. 

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Why is that guy under the car?

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The Barton house was built in the early 1900's in Cotton Center, Texas, about 60 miles N-NE of Lubbock. When l worked for the local electric CO-OP we helped moved that house from Cotton Center to the Texas Tech Ranching Heritage Center in Lubbock. lt was a big job and has interesting stories l could tell sometime. But since you're talking acetylene powered lights.... They hired a big time home restoration company from Dallas to put the house back to it's original new condition. l don't remember what magazine it was in but the head contractor wrote a article about it. He said the hardest part of the restoration was converting the original acetylene lighting to electric and still keep the same fixtures. l wish l could find the article but l haven't so far.

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21 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

Trying to figure out what he has in his hand 

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Looks like he is eating an apple 

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So Gary thinks he's in my will . . . smily_ROTFL.gif.844bed6edbcbf2428457e58a2b301073.gif  

The old ACME and the International Shovel Nose both use Prestolite tanks and they have those gauges on them too. 

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All of those tanks I've seen on antique cars/trucks have the gauge on them.  Henry Ford never offered Prestolite tanks on his cars but I've heard that it was common for dealerships to make the conversion from the carbide generators to the Prestolite tank for customers.

Along with the 1911 Open Runabout, my 1914 Touring and the Autowagon have carbide generators.

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1 hour ago, Roger Byrne said:

This is that day in 2010 that Roger was making sure my "bucket" would fit in that seat! If it didn't, he was going to have to give me his 1914 Touring Car instead. But it fit my "bucket" like a glove. So he stuck with this car.

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So Gary thinks he's in my will . . . smily_ROTFL.gif.844bed6edbcbf2428457e58a2b301073.gif  

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Actually, I dealt with Roger's widow, DeeAnn. She told me, "No Problem! I've got it handled for you! He'll NEVER KNOW. And if you change your mind and want the IHC AutoWagon too, I'll just throw that in as a bonus." Gary😁😉

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

My thoughts and Prayers for your speedy recovery 

jeeper61, thank you for the thoughts and prayers. I'm afraid I'm going to make it after all! I can't let you guys all have the fun without me here. Gary😁

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On 5/4/2022 at 2:19 PM, twostepn2001 said:

Why is that guy under the car?

I give up???!!!   (Could he be eating Adam's apple?)

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The Barton house was built in the early 1900's in Cotton Center, Texas, about 60 miles N-NE of Lubbock. When l worked for the local electric CO-OP we helped moved that house from Cotton Center to the Texas Tech Ranching Heritage Center in Lubbock. lt was a big job and has interesting stories l could tell sometime. But since you're talking acetylene powered lights.... They hired a big time home restoration company from Dallas to put the house back to it's original new condition. l don't remember what magazine it was in but the head contractor wrote a article about it. He said the hardest part of the restoration was converting the original acetylene lighting to electric and still keep the same fixtures. l wish l could find the article but l haven't so far.

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That had to be quite a job converting the carbide lights in this house to electrification? Our neighbor's house used to have carbide lights. Dad got many of the outdoor parts from the system. There was what would normally be classified as a "Rivited Lap Seam 'Boiler'," that the carbon part fit into. Dad never did anything with the carbon part but he had the boiler in his shop with a coal stoker in it. Sadly that 40'X80' shop had no insulation and so many knots were out of the siding that it was like looking at the stars at night, seeing daylight out through all of those small holes. Consequently, that stoker couldn't keep up with the shop's heat demand.

So consequently, when I got my new shop built in 1976, I moved it to this well insulated shop and put a rocking grate setup under it and burned wood in it. It did a fine job there. This shop also had an overhead propane heater. So I could warm the place up in winter and keep it warm. I Know I have photos of the stove I put in there, but I probably have them in an old misplaced photo album and haven't scanned them? Either that or I didn't do a great job of naming the photo in the computer and can't find it because of that?  Gary😢😭

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Showing off a bit here. This ol' senile duffer took this photo of a Great Falls, Montana plumber's cargo today. I used my computer skills to draw a sloppy black arrow to the valve of this plumber's Prestolite gas cylinder valve in the back of his pickup on the left side, here in Helena. We were stopped at a stop light and he started to pull away, but this iPhone 13 took a pretty good picture, before I had to move. Gary😁

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Thanks a lot Gary.....  😊

Just kidding. I decided I needed a stove to go with my lantern after talk here a page or two back so the search was on. As it turns out, they have been climbing in value and aren’t out there just anywhere.  I came across a couple for sale a couple hours away and took the family on a road trip today. We came back home the long way around through the Shawnee National Forest and stopped to throw some rocks in a creek and see a couple small waterfalls. 
 

1963 model 502 stove. Seems to work just as it should. 

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😉  Hope your son had a good time even though it looks like he never slipped and got his feet wet. 🤣 My grandkids have to find out how deep each pool is in that kind of stream. Which is what I always had to know too. 🤣

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9 minutes ago, ray54 said:

😉  Hope your son had a good time even though it looks like he never slipped and got his feet wet. 🤣 My grandkids have to find out how deep each pool is in that kind of stream. Which is what I always had to know too. 🤣

I think they both had a good time. I know I did. Water was pretty cool so today we tried to stay out of it. 

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20 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

Thanks a lot Gary.....  😊

Just kidding. I decided I needed a stove to go with my lantern after talk here a page or two back so the search was on. As it turns out, they have been climbing in value and aren’t out there just anywhere.  I came across a couple for sale a couple hours away and took the family on a road trip today. We came back home the long way around through the Shawnee National Forest and stopped to throw some rocks in a creek and see a couple small waterfalls. 
 

1963 model 502 stove. Seems to work just as it should. 

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Todd, that is sure a beautiful setting you took your family to. I like your stove too. I can't check the date on mine, but it must be about a 1964 or 65? I think the original box is in a WWII foot locker Mike has of his Grandpa Simpson's. I bought it new and Mike has it at his cabin. This last one with the gallon can "heater" fastened I'll need to take off so it can look like a stove. I think they are so neat. I'm glad you got a partner for that fabulous lantern of yours. Some things just go together. Abbott & Costello, Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, etc.  Gary😉

PS: I've been stuck at home with Bronchopneumonia. I'm getting better after spending 4 hours in the ER yesterday afternoon. Sadly I brought it home to Sharon too. I'm doing much better with the meds they sent me home with.

 

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An old Coleman mantle lantern brings back many memories of staying at our lake cabin in Minnesota when I was young. No electricity so the lantern was the only light. Dad made a loft for us kids to sleep in. Just tall enough to crawl around onto mattresses over half of the cabin. Jail cell bars to keep us from falling out. The smell of the lantern and the heat put us to sleep many, many nights. And fried bacon on a Coleman stove woke us up in the morning!

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Get well soon Gary and Sharon. I actually found more than one but haven’t had time to do much to them yet. Need some cleanup and inspection time. The flame seems really nice on this 502. 8B529E5D-F625-429F-ADEB-0DC61E183660.thumb.jpeg.e9892b5bef2959070ed91b1c637d2a8e.jpeg
 

The 550B is slightly smaller. It has more flame control and is made a little more for backpacking I think. It also has adjustable feet for uneven surfaces and a generator you can change to run it on kerosene.  Coleman made the “Peak 1” name also.

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I thought I should check and see if this thread was still here? I don't know anything, but I'm feeling a bit better, but Sharon has it and I'm trying to take care of her, keep up the house a little bit, and learning to cook and launder more. I took her to Urgent Care at the hospital yesterday. I don't think I've been out to the shop for two weeks? That is the longest spell I think I've ever missed going out there? Just about anyway. 

I hope Anson is doing okay? He usually brings up some topic while I'm having a lull in thoughts. Maybe he has this "old age thing" going on like I'm having? I hope Wrangler is doing okay? I have a couple of horse photos for him. This first one of a lady in a buggy with single tree and a fly net on the horse.

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This is an old Texas Trail photo of a cowboy and cattle heading north. 

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This is just planting cotton with a forward planter and a Farmall C.

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I know nothing about cotton strippers, as Anson already knows. But THIS might be them? A saloon and barber pole downstairs. The cotton is upstairs. On the balcony in this photo.

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I think this was years later when the local kids would do their Maypole on main street? I never did it, but maybe some old timers here have done it?

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The interior of a North Dakota "soddy" homestead shack. 

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This is Ole Thorson's crew and I think this IHC tractor is a type A? Apparently they'd just finished a threshing set behind the barn?

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A little closer to Roger is this wooden wheel Stillwater return flue, built in Minnesota. Stillwater, Minnesota! It has the early internal tooth bull gearing, with a chain drive setup getting the pinion turning. 

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Advance a few years and this is a grandson of the Stillwater engine pulling a bunch of engines at the Stillwater factory. This is a Northwest Thresher Company 51 hp steam engine showing off its muscle.

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An Advance steam engine is taking a break while the crew chopping corn poses for the camera.

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As a farm boy, I can relate to this picture. His dog and trike. Tools of his trade for a while.

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This John Deere A has suffered quite a bit, but on Facebook there were guys clamoring for it.

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And in worse shape is this IH Farmall H that was destroyed by a near 200mph tornado. I didn't get the location.

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An IH Farmall M is converted to wood gas in Osterangen, Sweden in 1942.

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I thought this was a cute advertisement for the IH Farmall Cub. I learned to drive on Dad's 1947 Cub.

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Just when we were getting headed to the field, the banker had to stop and check on his investments. 

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A Super WD-9 and a Super W-4, well restored tractors, it would appear.

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I don't often do "pulling tractors" very often, but I was amused how they put a turbocharger on this Farmall M.

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I have hundreds of hours on an IH 300 Utility. I thought this one was superb.

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Mike's 300 Utility is still an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. It is the power for "the jack of all trades" there.

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Ed Loe's machinery and Ford automobile dealership at Pekin, North Dakota in 1915.

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I thought this old 1930 Model A Ford Fordor made an excellent Dust Bowl Refugee's transportation at a tractor show.

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Self explanitory.

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I'm pretty sure this fire truck at left is an R-170? Maybe it is an R-180? 1953 or 54. Then a GMC. The old fire truck pumper engine at right must be an American-LaFrance? Fire Department at Oakes, North Dakota.

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Since Mike and Pam sell farm fresh eggs, I had to post this one too. I'm sure these two old boys are related somehow? They are selling farm fresh eggs too. Gary😉

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The picture of the cowboy was taken o. the Pitchfork ranch here in Meeteetse Wyo. by Charles Belden. He photograph  ranch life on the 250000 acre ranch just 8 mile from my place. He married into the family and helped reestablish  the Pronghorn antelope. His photo techniques  were revolutionary in the 30s. .  The ranch entertained some rather high fluting folks. After his divorce he ended up ìn Florida taking pictures of tourist. The ranch is about 60000 acres now and was sold out of the family 20 years ago. Kinda sad story.  JUST thought I might inject a little history to  the subject. Always enjoy the musings of my neighbor to the north.  Edward

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14 hours ago, edwardporter1 said:

The picture of the cowboy was taken o. the Pitchfork ranch here in Meeteetse Wyo. by Charles Belden. He photograph  ranch life on the 250000 acre ranch just 8 mile from my place. He married into the family and helped reestablish  the Pronghorn antelope. His photo techniques  were revolutionary in the 30s. .  The ranch entertained some rather high fluting folks. After his divorce he ended up ìn Florida taking pictures of tourist. The ranch is about 60000 acres now and was sold out of the family 20 years ago. Kinda sad story.  JUST thought I might inject a little history to  the subject. Always enjoy the musings of my neighbor to the north.  Edward

Edward, Thank you! It's always nice to know the real story behind photos. I got this from a Facebook site and it said none of the things you just said! Gary😉

 

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