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My curiosity ot the best of me and I googled Teddy Blue Abbott-----found some excerpts from his book "we headed them north" (about his life as a real "cowpuncher") starting out as an 11 yr old kid near Lincoln Nebraska in the 1870s.

Being that my great grampa Sheldon was living only 40 miles to the east in Nehawka, Nebraska (settled there in 1856)-----in reading Teddy Blue's accounts; I could tell he "wuz a natural asz" Bull-Shipter and had probably shipted more bull than anyone between Lincoln, Nebraska and Buttermilk Curve, Montana.

Teddy Blue has to be an honorary member of our "old codgers" club also. He should have no problem passing the exam.

One thing I did learn from his writings------is that the trail herds travelled close into Lincoln during the 1870----early 80s.  I had never realized that.  All of our family history in southeast Nebraska revolves around farming.

All interesting------

 

 

DD

 

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13 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

My curiosity ot the best of me and I googled Teddy Blue Abbott-----found some excerpts from his book "we headed them north" (about his life as a real "cowpuncher") starting out as an 11 yr old kid near Lincoln Nebraska in the 1870s.

Being that my great grampa Sheldon was living only 40 miles to the east in Nehawka, Nebraska (settled there in 1856)-----in reading Teddy Blue's accounts; I could tell he "wuz a natural asz" Bull-Shipter and had probably shipted more bull than anyone between Lincoln, Nebraska and Buttermilk Curve, Montana.

Teddy Blue has to be an honorary member of our "old codgers" club also. He should have no problem passing the exam.

One thing I did learn from his writings------is that the trail herds travelled close into Lincoln during the 1870----early 80s.  I had never realized that.  All of our family history in southeast Nebraska revolves around farming.

All interesting------

 

 

DD

 

Anson, I can tell you are plumb full of Brown Sugar this morning! I don't know that Teddy Blue Abbott was ever at Buttermilk Curve, Montana? He may not have been at Blue Rock, Montana either? But he was a staple at "Guilt" Edge, Montana and may have known Calamity Jane better than we know he knew her? 

This is the Gilt Edge gold mine.

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These are soldiers at next door Fort Maginnis.

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They were to guard the freighting from Indian interference at the lower Missouri River steamboats at Carroll Landing as they passed through on the Carroll Trail to Helena. A steamboat is casting its shadow at Carroll landing.

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This is Gilt Edge in its heyday.

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This building still stands. A friend took this photo last summer at Gilt Edge. "Ladies" worked here.

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This is the Gilt Edge Saloon.

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This is an interior shot of the Gilt Edge Saloon. The man standing at left was Mose LaTray, who built the Reeds Fort Post Office that was Grandpa Jäger's first postal address after he settled on his homestead in 1881.

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The post office had just opened in January. Mose is posing with it. Reeds Fort is now inside of Lewistown. I believe

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Grandpa knew Mose from when he was a "Woodhawk" who furnished cordwood to the steamboats at Cow Island north of Lewistown, when Grandpa was working on the steamboats for T.C. Power.  😉Gary

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I don't know one darn thing... (you knew that would eventually come, right?) Time to clean out my files a little. I hope I'm not posting too many photos that you guys have already posted. I have a hard time keeping track of things I've put on, or haven't put on.

A horse pulled "Left Hand" McCormick Binder. They were available, but pretty uncommon.

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Farmers doing some kind of corn harvest with a (McCormick-Deering?) tractor and horses.

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Boys selling vegetables in a city off of a horse team pulled wagon.

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Farmers in town sitting and visiting in Texas.

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Buying cigarettes in a hospital. Supposedly settled patients down.

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For you youngsters. It used to be this way when I was a kid.

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The couple for the American-gothic-models Nan Wood Graham and her dentist, Dr. Byron McKeeby pictured in 1942 recreating their original poses! Nan Wood Grahams's sister painted the photo.

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This North Dakota farm couple may have been told by the photographer to say "cheese?" But I see optimism and a bright outlook in their faces. I don't have an "after" photo of them.

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One of the first goose neck trailers. The Adams Motor Bungalo.

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A ca 1922 Model T Ford Roadster getting gasoline in the 1930s. My Dad used to say, when I picked him up in the field with my Model T, 1 to 2 miles from home, "A poor ride is better than a good walk."

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Roger, I can't figure this photo out. It looks like a 1926 Model T Coupe with extra cost optional balloon tires, that has had a roadster top put on it?

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A 1938 D Model IHC truck with "pickers" (dunno what?) from a different state.

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An early IHC engine at a modern tractor show.

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I hope these are all three IHC Type C tractors coming up? That is how I had them listed.

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A big 30-60 Case gas tractor is busy threshing.

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A lady is driving an IHC Titan tractor and another lady is riding the plow. I wonder if this could have been a result of WWI, and men gone?

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An 8-16 IHC tractor plowing and sporting a steering device.

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A Fordson tractor is pulling a binder in the grain field.

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I believe this Fordson conversion is winching logs in the woods? The operator has his Model T Ford Roadster parked nearby. The turtle deck is removed and a box for his supplies has been added.

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A McCormick-Deering Farmall F-20 is pulling a threshing machine.

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I can't explain this photo of this F-20, McCormick-Deering, but it is purportedly pulling "listers." Somebody can explain this, I'm sure?!!

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This McCormick-Deering Farmall F-30 is pulling a McCormick combine and dumping grain into a Chevy pickup-truck.

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An Adams Road Grader with McCormick-Deering diesel engine, as used in the TD-40s and WD-40s.

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I'm no Caterpillar authority. I would guess this is a D-8 though? Pulling five "cylinder plows" Diskers, one-ways or whatever they are called in your area of the world.

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A McCormick Standard W-6.

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Charlie Reef's International-New Farmall dealership in Gasport, New York, 1940. All Farmall A's in front row, All H's in the back row, except for one Farmall F-20, 30 or something at the far end. 

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An IH Farmall H "Annie,' Farmall M "Toot," and McCormick-Deering Farmall F-12 "Johnny." All IH Tractors on a Montana Farm!  Gary😉

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16 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Farmers doing some kind of corn harvest with a (McCormick-Deering?) tractor and horses.

The picture really provides no clue as to what he is doing, nothing in the wagon, nothing on the slatted conveyor, you really can't see if any stalks are bent over after the ears are removed, or if they are cut off, as they would be if he were harvesting the full stalk and ear for fodder, nothing shows in the wagon elevator.

What I did notice is how the wagon elevator is driven from the top.

16 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

I can't explain this photo of this F-20, McCormick-Deering, but it is purportedly pulling "listers." Somebody can explain this, I'm sure?!!

I am thinking he is pulling a "go-devil" (a listed crop cultivator).  The hooded shields would be used to keep dirt from being thrown on the crop being cultivated,  You can also see that it has shanks to which the shovels/sweeps are attached, and in front of them you see a "rolling disk", which would be positioned to either throw dirt towards, or away from the plants.  Also, I have only seen the cast iron wheels (white in the picture) used on listers or "go devils"

A much more modern one:

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The above picture shows the white disks, which ride on top the the ridge and act as stabilizers, behind them you see the concave disks which move the dirt from the ridge towards the crop, and then you can see the hooded shield, that keeps the dirt off the plants.

I see no reason why a farmer could not use a lister as a middle buster, since, my understanding was, that by the time you made two or three passes cultivating the crop, the ridges would have been leveled out.

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Info on the pic says it's a ad for Overland cars. Don't have a date but says it was taken at Garland, Texas. l guess they are trying to show how much weight it can carry and pull. Average weight of cotton bales is between 500 and 550lbs. But l bet if it had haul it very far it might start blowing some of that Blue Smoke that Anson talks about. lf it did, wonder if the driver should've traded his hat for a engineer's cap. But then we'd be back in that "pokey dot vs. stripedy" cap thing.....

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Happy Valentine's Day if I don't get back here before then.

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twostepn2001, here are some Overland examples. I took this photo at Belgrade, MT one year.

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This is a Model 86 Overland Touring Car with jump seats in the back end.

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Here is an Overland Model 38 Speedster from the factory.

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Here is a Willys Overland truck built for International Harvester, I'm told.

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This is a Willys Overland in kit form.

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This is what the kit looks like when assembled. (After being pushed out of the rear doors of a Flying Boxcar.  Gary😁

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That last pic looks familiar Gary. I have a couple that are a similar setup framed here. I had to leave the light off to take the pics so it wouldn’t glare. 

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Since it is snowing here I thought this one fits mother natures mood 

The Snowmobile Company, Inc. of West Ossipee, NH, manufactured a winter sled modification for Model T trucks and sold them through Ford dealerships.

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4 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Since it is snowing here I thought this one fits mother natures mood 

The Snowmobile Company, Inc. of West Ossipee, NH, manufactured a winter sled modification for Model T trucks and sold them through Ford dealerships.

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jeeper61, Those were very popular around central Montana. Our Rural Route 2 mailman, Harry Peterson had one. This one I'm picturing was my Moore, Montana baseball coach, Virgil Jennings.' This is his Model TT Ford Ton Truck with a snowmobile set up on it for his "day job."  His wife Edna is posing with it. Gary😁 

PS: I notice he had tire chains on the rear tires. 

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Gary, I found this forage/insilage harvester mounted on a Fordson and another McCormick Deering.  It was invented by a fellow named Adolph Ronning but McCormick Deering acquired the rights to build it.  It's in C. H. Wendel's IH book.  Assuming IH turned it into a drag type model and probably upgraded it.     The Farm Collector Magazine has a short article about where this restored Fordson and Ronning harvester was found.  It's a good read.  Just look up Farm Collector.  I believe the article is current.  

 

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A ccording to Ronning, he also made the harvestor to fit the IH 10-20 also.

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6 hours ago, Fred B said:

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Gary, I found this forage/insilage harvester mounted on a Fordson and another McCormick Deering.  It was invented by a fellow named Adolph Ronning but McCormick Deering acquired the rights to build it.  It's in C. H. Wendel's IH book.  Assuming IH turned it into a drag type model and probably upgraded it.     The Farm Collector Magazine has a short article about where this restored Fordson and Ronning harvester was found.  It's a good read.  Just look up Farm Collector.  I believe the article is current.  

 

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Ronning developed most all of the early implements during the Farmall Regular days.

He developed the "roll-o-matic" tricycle front end that J-D had.

Interesting----Ronning carried the  roll o magic to Harvester.  Harvester turned him down-------he left Harvester's office and caught the train to Derre's office.  The rest is history.

This too came from a Farm Collector magazine from several years ago. Ronning was from a small town in Minnesoto-----not too far west of Roger.  I was able to make contact with his daughter at the time of the publication.  Nice people.

 

 

DD

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Seems like it might have been Zumbro (??) Mn.

They sent me an advertising video tape that had my dad's two Regulars plowing cotton in it.

Correct on spelling:  magic for magic and Deere for Derre. (Can't make edit work right now)

 

DD

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Anson,  that's quite a feather in your cap, about your dads tractors in the ad video. actually I don't have any experince with the roll o matic, but I have always thought it might find It self easier to wander off out of the furrow on bedded land which at the time we had here.  I think it's too bad Ronning didn't invent the fast hitch and palm it off on JD as in my opinion it's only good for a semi mounted breaking plow.  Here we all used bedders and if you had fast hitch it actually became a 4pt hitch with the top 2 links connected to the tractor axles.  

As I understand it, JD tried to acquire fast hitch rights  from IH.  They should have let them have it and immediately switched to 3pt hitch.  

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Gary, I made a mistake when I gave you instructions how to find that article I found.  

I'm pretty sure I have it correct this time.  Just type in       Ronnings  harvester one of a kind.      to your search bar, it's the one with the restored harvestor.       😬     

 

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Fred----

I never was a fast hitch fan either.

And-----as far as I remember never operated a Roll-o-Matic front end.  The folks that had them always seemed well pleased with them over in these parts.

In this area-----with the tricycle front end-----seems like the single front was the most popular with the M's etc.

edit:  maybe not most "most popular"-------but most "desired"

The old M's were run in however condition-----even with one wheel remaining on the otherwise "dual" tricycle arrangement.

DD

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My Roll-a-matic story goes as follows :  I grew to an age where I could be useful in the field with another tractor along side Dad.  We had a 51' JD B with the rollamatic and he bought a 2 row cultivator for it.  The first time through he put an extra 8 or 10" shovel behind the front wheels to tear out the weeds in the center, just he had with the rear wheels.  The crop in question is corn.  The 2nd time through that rollamatic front end wanted to put one tire in the bottom of the V-trough and I fought it to keep in the center of row. (The rollamatic was made to let either wheel pivot up over a bump without bothering the other wheel.) The second time through we either raised the shields beside the corn rows or removed them to throw more dirt up around the plants to suffocate the weeds close the plants by travelling at a faster speed.  Dad was driving the IH 400 with the 448 4 row cultivator and had power steering on the tractor.  At noon I made a fuss about how sore I was from steering that B and he just laughed at me because I hadn't had any trouble with the first time through 2 weeks prior.  Finally he figured that he just had to show me that I was only wanting to drive the 400 with the power steering.  He made one round with that B and said " Take it back to the farm stead, I see what your complaining about".  Talking to others, he found out the rollamatic was no good for such work.  Needless to say, that was the end of the B JD.  He traded it for a Super M (that I still own!), bought a WD Allis for the Allis round baler and put a 2 row cultivator on it for me to use.  That worked out much better in the long run. 

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l found this pic buried deep in my files of "unknown and otherwise lost pics".  Only info it has is "Tractor plowing in the Texas panhandle." No date or anything else. ls the tractor a Big 4 or was l asleep during the perfessor's tractor recognition class?

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The world has lost a iconic steam man today, Jerred Ruble of Hanlontown, Iowa past away this morning.  He was a great friend for over 50 years and I'm really going to miss him.  I talked to him two weeks ago knowing his time was short and while this is a hard pill to swallow, I'm glad his suffering is over.

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