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It's time to call the old professional in here-------no more guessing.

Roger would you pull your calipers and give us some accurate dimensions on the smokstaks pictured.

(we do know that Gary has photo shop capibility):blink:

 

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Serious machinist's question:

Am afraid micrometers would be too small???  Where do you start measuring with Calipers vs. Micrometers????

 

 

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Double D, AKA. 😉Delta Dirt, You seem to be the authority on Double Smokestacks for Hardtail. Roger may not have calipers to handle the job? He wasn't in the U.S. Marines and didn't travel to Triple E, like You did? I wonder if Kromer could build her a "covering" harness with polka dots? Gary

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1 hour ago, iowaboy1965 said:

Might I suggest a more hands on method? 

lot of 'steam '  being  generated lately, here,  following  Hardtail's  most pertinent  observation...however, as in the case of most old 'boilers'' ..maybe its more   ''huff''  than real  ''puff''............:rolleyes:

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Denton, Montana, is a small central Montana town that grew up with the homesteaders who flooded into the area over a hundred years ago. I put a list of the homes that were burned. A farm complex burned as well. It started near Stanford, Montana when powerlines arced starting the fire in an intensely high 90 mph west wind. No lives were lost. Storage buildings, vehicles, and the grain elevator burned. Here are some photos of the disaster. 

Lewistown is the Fergus County Seat and the main center of commerce. But these little old towns that have survived somewhat due to farming, while plenty of small towns died serve people in distances from Lewistown or Great Falls. These little towns like Denton and Moore, where I graduated high school still dot the prairies and ranges in central Montana. Draw a circle 50 miles in radius around Lewistown, and we all considered these townspeople, their farmers and ranchers as out "neighbors."

The Fergus County Sheriff’s Office with the assistance from the State Officials have assessed the damage in the Town of Denton and the properties that were damaged or lost during the West Wind Fire. A more thorough assessment will be forth coming at a later time. We want to express our deepest sympathies to the individuals that lost their house, vehicle or storage buildings. The following is a list of all residences that were a total loss:
1210 Buena Vista
600 Main St 700 Lehman
610 Main St 701 Lehman
612 Main St 702 Lehman
616 Main St 703 Lehman
618 Main St 706 Lehman
716 Main St 710 Lehman
804 Lehman 815 Lehman
819 Lehman 910 Lehman
305 Railroad Ave 505 Railroad Ave
205 Keirstad 207 Keirstad
209 Keirstad 211 Keirstad
201 Ketchner 505 Ketchner
If you have been misplaced due to the loss of your house, please call the American Red Cross at 1-800-272-6668 or stop by the Civic Center 309 5th Ave South in Lewistown, MT. You can also contact the local Salvation Army at 406-366-2982 or 206-280-9787.

It had a most devastating fire early in the morning of December 1st. I don't know much more about the fire that these photos will show. The fire forked several times and burned other areas north and south of town. Gary😢😭

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Thankfully the Denton Schools survived.

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The elevators burning.

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Aftermath of the burned elevator and the grain pile.

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Before.

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Afterward.

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Sorry about the fire.  I had seen a news item on it-----and looked the location of Denton up.  That would hurt anywhere.

 

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Not to be considered as an advertisement-----just seeking information.

Who knows of a sales site or sales yard that specializes in older pre 1950s era farm equipment???   I have a yard full of primarily I-H related equipment dating back from my 1962 Loadstar with rollback----Farmall Ms----TD-14, on back to a couple of Farmall Regulars.

All is rusty, dusty, and crusty-----(sorta like me!!!!:wacko:).  I am to the point that I need to clean up my shop yard before I catch the train outta here.  Time to find it a new home-------even if it is the scrap yard.

Anybody know of someone who specializes in the sale of this type equipment------please advise me if you do.

 

 

DD    (Avon, Ms  38723)

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3 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Sorry about the fire.  I had seen a news item on it-----and looked the location of Denton up.  That would hurt anywhere.

 

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Not to be considered as an advertisement-----just seeking information.

Who knows of a sales site or sales yard that specializes in older pre 1950s era farm equipment???   I have a yard full of primarily I-H related equipment dating back from my 1962 Loadstar with rollback----Farmall Ms----TD-14, on back to a couple of Farmall Regulars.

All is rusty, dusty, and crusty-----(sorta like me!!!!:wacko:).  I am to the point that I need to clean up my shop yard before I catch the train outta here.  Time to find it a new home-------even if it is the scrap yard.

Anybody know of someone who specializes in the sale of this type equipment------please advise me if you do.

 

 

DD    (Avon, Ms  38723)

I wish I was closer, Anson. I'd be looking at those Regulars. I know they are too heavy for my IHC AutoWagon you will bring me when delivering those watermelons. I know you'd have to row pretty hard to get them onto a raft and paddle up here to Helena over the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers. There has to be someone somewhere there in Texas who would buy them? I'd even consider (CONSIDER!!!) wearing a choo choo cap the rest of my life when steaming a traction engine, if you didn't take those Regulars to the scrapyard. Gary

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3 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Sorry about the fire.  I had seen a news item on it-----and looked the location of Denton up.  That would hurt anywhere.

 

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Not to be considered as an advertisement-----just seeking information.

Who knows of a sales site or sales yard that specializes in older pre 1950s era farm equipment???   I have a yard full of primarily I-H related equipment dating back from my 1962 Loadstar with rollback----Farmall Ms----TD-14, on back to a couple of Farmall Regulars.

All is rusty, dusty, and crusty-----(sorta like me!!!!:wacko:).  I am to the point that I need to clean up my shop yard before I catch the train outta here.  Time to find it a new home-------even if it is the scrap yard.

Anybody know of someone who specializes in the sale of this type equipment------please advise me if you do.

 

 

DD    (Avon, Ms  38723)

Never hurts to contact Aumann, or his competition, before resorting to scrapping them.

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13 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Sorry about the fire.  I had seen a news item on it-----and looked the location of Denton up.  That would hurt anywhere.

 

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Not to be considered as an advertisement-----just seeking information.

Who knows of a sales site or sales yard that specializes in older pre 1950s era farm equipment???   I have a yard full of primarily I-H related equipment dating back from my 1962 Loadstar with rollback----Farmall Ms----TD-14, on back to a couple of Farmall Regulars.

All is rusty, dusty, and crusty-----(sorta like me!!!!:wacko:).  I am to the point that I need to clean up my shop yard before I catch the train outta here.  Time to find it a new home-------even if it is the scrap yard.

Anybody know of someone who specializes in the sale of this type equipment------please advise me if you do.

 

 

DD    (Avon, Ms  38723)

Just tried go talk my soon to be retired buddy into relieving you of your inventory but he isn't going for it. Buzz kill! Your only 11 hours and 22 min south of me says the Google machine.....

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13 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Sorry about the fire.  I had seen a news item on it-----and looked the location of Denton up.  That would hurt anywhere.

 

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Not to be considered as an advertisement-----just seeking information.

Who knows of a sales site or sales yard that specializes in older pre 1950s era farm equipment???   I have a yard full of primarily I-H related equipment dating back from my 1962 Loadstar with rollback----Farmall Ms----TD-14, on back to a couple of Farmall Regulars.

All is rusty, dusty, and crusty-----(sorta like me!!!!:wacko:).  I am to the point that I need to clean up my shop yard before I catch the train outta here.  Time to find it a new home-------even if it is the scrap yard.

Anybody know of someone who specializes in the sale of this type equipment------please advise me if you do.

 

 

DD    (Avon, Ms  38723)

DD, 

    Would you be able to take some pictures of things?  Maybe someone would see them and try to contact you that wasn’t a regular here. Not a for sale add just some pictures of what you have?  Just a thought. 

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Guys, I'm at the age, like Anson, where I'm not sure which side is up, much of the time anymore. If I repeat a photo, sometimes it is on purpose like this photo below of Anson's uncle and father cultivating. But other photos might get posted here and have been here recently. It's too hard for me to remember which ones I've posted and which I haven't.

Anson, Are these the two McCormick-Deering Farmall Regular tractors you refer to?

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Here's a Regular I got off of the internet, pulling a grain drill.

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And this.

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Not only was a dog driving this car, a dog was driving that IHC Farmall Regular above too!

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I put this picture of a 16 hp double simple Reeves engine pulling an elevating grader, building roads.

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These are some of the people who will appreciate getting roads built. I've always liked these Model T Center Door Sedans built from 1919 and 1923. I'm not able to tell what that car is behind it, but my best guess is a Dodge Brothers. Roger might know?

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Somebody added a water tank between the smokestack and the steam dome/cylinder on this 25 hp Case steam engine, pulling a threshing machine.

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This is a pretty decent load of grain bundles piled on this bundle wagon in North Dakota.

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This self propelled steam powered combine didn't need grain cut with binders and bound into bundles to harvest them. It cut standing grain in the field just like a modern Deere John, or an IH Case. This is naturally a "straw burner" steam engine powering the combined harvester.

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This is a crane hay stacker being used in Montana.

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I know Roger will know the model of this International Harvester truck hauling this stick. It looks like his wooden seat he's sitting on makes for a pretty fair "headache rack"? I hope that horseshoe on the front grille doesn't give him any bad luck before he gets to the sawmill with that stick.

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What was Mr. Goldberg's first name? Anyway, he invented this seed bed preparer. 

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A refugee family trying to make the best of impossible times in Texas during the Dirty Thirties.

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These men are filling a C-model International truck with sugar beets. This may have been Texas as well?

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This boy driving this Allis Chalmers tractor has stopped to get a cold drink of water from his burlap wrapped/water soaked gallon jug. I can relate to being that age and doing a day's work in the fields. But it was a good feeling getting to prove yourself to your elders, older siblings and cousins, that "I can do this too! Just watch me!"

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This is a 1902 Moto Cardan "transverse" motorcycle. I don't know one other thing about it? Wouldn't that be something to find one of these in an old delipidated shed somewhere?

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These appear to be early in WWII production of TD-14's to be shipped overseas for making paths and creating runways.

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A TD-18 unloaded on a Pacific Island, ready to go to work.

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Anson on his 1943 TD-14.

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Last but not least, Mike is shutting off the McCormick-Deering Farmall F-12, his hay mowing tractor, a few years back. The TD-40 is beside it. They're BOTH IH Tractors on a Montana Farm. Gary

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Doing a little internet surfing and found pics of these trucks. The Thorco-Ford cabover was used to pull a '62 foot trailer. They were used to haul B-24 bomber parts made by Ford at the Rouge plant to other B-24 assembly plants. lt used two flathead V-8's, each engine had it's own transmission and powered one axle. Used a crew of three to drive it. Driver, co-driver and the third carried a Thompson .45 machine gun for protection against hi-jackers and saboteurs. lnstead of jacking up the cab for engine maintenance, they mounted the engines on a slide out tray. Disconnect the drive shaft and pull the engines out.

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Thorco also built trucks with side by side flathead engines. Each engine and transmission powered a drive axle. Supposedly designed for more reliability. lf one engine quit, they could still continue to a repair shop.

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On 12/6/2021 at 11:46 AM, twostepn2001 said:

Doing a little internet surfing and found pics of these trucks. The Thorco-Ford cabover was used to pull a '62 foot trailer. They were used to haul B-24 bomber parts made by Ford at the Rouge plant to other B-24 assembly plants. lt used two flathead V-8's, each engine had it's own transmission and powered one axle. Used a crew of three to drive it. Driver, co-driver and the third carried a Thompson .45 machine gun for protection against hi-jackers and saboteurs. lnstead of jacking up the cab for engine maintenance, they mounted the engines on a slide out tray. Disconnect the drive shaft and pull the engines out.

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Thorco also built trucks with side by side flathead engines. Each engine and transmission powered a drive axle. Supposedly designed for more reliability. lf one engine quit, they could still continue to a repair shop.

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twostepn2001,

I did not know about these Thorco-Ford trucks. I did know that Henry Ford built the complete B-24 Liberator Bombers during WWII. Henry met with Adolph Hitler before the war. Lots of Americans looked down their nose at Henry for that. He was interested in Hitler's rebuilding methods, I think? Just my thought. But when WWII broke out on December 7th, 1941 (Tomorrow is Tora, Tora, Tora) Hitler took over Henry Ford's Automobile Factory in Germany to build the Wehrmacht's machines of war. That "ticked-off" (use your imagination with that slogan) Henry Ford. His hatred of Hitler from that point on drove Henry to build the largest building in the United States under one roof, The Rouge River Willow Run Plant.

When the assembly lines started moving, Henry turned out one B-24 Liberator Bomber per hour around the clock! (I'm certain Adolph hadn't anticipated this into his calculations?) These bombers did nighttime bombing runs over Germany because of the cover of dark. But when the P-51 Mustang Fighter Aircraft arrived in England from the USA, the p-51 could outrun and outfly Hitler's aircraft. Daytime Bombing Raids began then. The B-24 Liberator and the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress eventually took Hitler down on his knees. (Hitler was a dumb @$$ for ever starting a war to the west (France, England, Canada, Australia and eventually the USA, then he attacked Russia to the east. That stupidity spells "VISE" [or plier?] to me.)

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B-24 Liberator Bomber Plant in Fort Worth, Texas. Likely those Thorco-Ford trucks made plenty of runs to this plant?

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A British AVRO Lancaster Bomber is dropping a depth charge into a German Dam. These "Dam Busters" were to flood the lowlands. I don't know how successful they were?

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This B-24 Liberator Bomber was piloted by Captain Jimmy Stewart, USAAF, 'CO' of 703rd Bombardment Squadron, 445th Bombardment Group. Shown here, middle rear, with his squadron officers and a B-24 Liberator long-range heavy bomber, 1943.

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Even tiny Maiden Montana made it onto the B-24 Bombers nose art?

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Since I grew up about 25 miles from Maiden, Montana (here 1883 Montana Territory) I had to put this photo here. Because I can?

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My late first cousin Frank McArthur was a bombardier over Germany. They were required to complete 25 bombing missions, before they could rotate out. He flew 33 or 34 (a family discrepancy!) bombing missions. He told his commander, he wanted to stay with his friends.

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The Norden Bombsight that was like the ones Frank stared into. I remember him saying they had some kind of a canister that if their plane was hit and likely going down, he was to put the bombsight into that canister and an explosion destroyed it. The Norden was a top secret piece of equipment. However, I've heard a rumor that Hitler had an "American-German" infiltrate the manufacturing plant. A young lady I used to date, her father had been a "watchmaker." During WWII, his duty was repairing and calibrating these Norden Bombsights.

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Cousin Frank told me that his happiest day as a bombardier was when the P-51 Mustangs reached England for deployment over Germany. They'd outrun the German aircraft. But it was still a game of luck to survive in war when you're being shot at.  Gary😊

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:wub:------The howl  of the side by side flathead V-8s would sound just about as good as a howling Detroit!!!!   

:wub: Music to my ears.  Bet the buzz of the P-51s with the roar of the B24 in the background made somebody sleep good also??B)

 

Never heard of the Thorco-Ford either TwoStep-------thanks for another day of living and learning here at the Montana 1 room school house!!!!

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The two Farmall Regulars pictured in Gary's picture a couple of posts back are not the same tractors that I have on hand.  

More comment later............

 

DD

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The Dam Busters photo is a British AVRO Lancaster bomber, not a B-24,  as the dam busting was a RAF project, not US.  The bomb was not a depth charge, but a cylindrical bomb that was designed to bounce across the surface of the water avoiding underwater defenses against torpedoes, etc.  until it reached the dam, where it sank and exploded.  It was designed with dimples like a golf ball to accomplish this. 

Google Dam Busters or Bouncing Bomb to read the story of the development of this weapon.  It is quite interesting.  And it was quite successful, causing major flooding in downstream.

And I've talked to folks that lived along US-24 where those Thorco-Fords and huge trailers for the day traveled.  When you saw one coming, you were wise to get off the narrow two-lane highway as it was their road and they were coming through.

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40 minutes ago, Howard_P said:

The Dam Busters photo is a British AVRO Lancaster bomber, not a B-24,  as the dam busting was a RAF project, not US.  The bomb was not a depth charge, but a cylindrical bomb that was designed to bounce across the surface of the water avoiding underwater defenses against torpedoes, etc.  until it reached the dam, where it sank and exploded.  It was designed with dimples like a golf ball to accomplish this. 

Google Dam Busters or Bouncing Bomb to read the story of the development of this weapon.  It is quite interesting.  And it was quite successful, causing major flooding in downstream.

And I've talked to folks that lived along US-24 where those Thorco-Fords and huge trailers for the day traveled.  When you saw one coming, you were wise to get off the narrow two-lane highway as it was their road and they were coming through.

 I just watched a video about the Dam Busters ! its even shown at the time I stopped the video. Very interesting video if anyone wants to watch all of it. it claims the Germans used hydro electric power for their steel mills, the missions were important to knock out production In another video I watched recently it said 700-800 Lancasters would form an armada 10 miles wide and 30 miles long that shook the Earth😮

 

 

 btw WW2 started Sept 1 1939.  The USA got dragged into it 2 years later

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Another interesting twin engined Ford truck was the GRICO-Mercury. Powered by two Ford-Mercury 239 ci flathead V-8's making 95 hp each. The Ford cabover tractor’s original V8 engine, drivetrain, and rear axle were retained. A second V8 engine, transmission, and driveline were installed behind the cab, under a sheet metal housing, driving the second axle in the tandem. The two powertrains were configured so that either one could be operated individually to propel the truck, or they could be run in tandem controlled by a single throttle, clutch pedal, and shift lever.

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Another twin Mercury powered truck was the Ford Merry-Neville. lt used the same Mercury 239 ci flathead V-8's.

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Ford wasn't the only one to build twin engined trucks. The Eisenhaur Company used two Chevy 6 cylinder engines to power their truck. Another feature was it had not just two, but three steering axles. Two in the front and one in the rear.

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This is a Relay Motor Co. twin engined truck. Powered by two Lycoming straight 8 cylinder engines. l couldn't find much info on this one. But the more l dig the more info l find on multiple engine powered trucks in the 30's and 40's.

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The Regulars pictured cross plowing cotton would be 1924-25 models.  The two I have left on hand serial numbers identify as later models.

..........even though knowing my dad; either or both could very well have scavenged parts from the two in the picture.  Daddy wasn't concerned about originality------and scavenging parts from the dead horse was a common practice back in those days.

Both of mine have the enclosed steering gears up front (similar to the F20s).-------most likely added in later years.  Both have been converted to L-P.

 

Freight is no doubt a killer for most collectors to consider in moving any of my items up Nawth where most of the collectors reside.  A couple of years ago---a near original, steel wheel Regular sold at a farm auction for $350.  Weighing approx 4,000 lbs-------it would have brought that much or more at the scrap yard.

And--------at that particular time I would have readily have bought the tractor if I had known it was for sale.  Shortly thereafter-----my son Reb died unexpectedly.  Not that Reb was a big proponent of rusty scrap iron-------but he did understand where it came from. 

Sorta opens up a new can of worms as the old codger and old scrap iron move forward.:wacko:

 

DD

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It never hurts to talk to an auction company that has the ability, and willingness to advertise nationwide.  Even if you only have a few pieces that someone considers collectible, I think you would feel a lot better, knowing that someone wanted it, than seeing it all going off for scrap.

Who knows, someone might be interested in the LP conversions, even if they weren't factory.

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Anson, as far as your LP parts and such, if you will post some pics of them, l belong to a couple of LP tractor groups on facebook. l 'll post them for you if you want and if anyone is interested l could let you know. Someone in those groups are always searching for tanks, valves, regulators and other things to help with their LP projects.

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A neat photo of an oil fired Holt traction engine pulling a combined harvester in a wheat field.

449304925_HolttractionenginepullingoneoftheirHoltcombinedHarvestersinagrainfieldDavidFuller.jpg.0f6b1dc0879f286995ffd1d19cf435b8.jpg

This Best steam traction engine WAS pulling a combined harvester. It's true; anytime you have fire in a ripe grain field, this can be the end result.😭😭

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A late 1909 or a very early 1910 32 hp Case straw burner engine on the belt threshing.

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This farmer/engineer must be building pressure to go to work with his tandem compound Advance engine.

34530626_EngineersittingonhisAdvancetandemcompoundDavidFullerIH.jpg.151ef06e0b636de0f2de6f8f6db61585.jpg

Threshing in Iowa with a 16 hp Gaar Scott engine with its front wheels on planks so it will set level, to maintain the correct water level and keep water over the firebox's crown sheet.

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A 16 hp Reeves double simple engine is busy threshing.

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This is kind of a neat photo of the threshing crew posing with this 12 hp Case tandem compound engine after finishing a threshing set. The earlier Case threshing machine still is utilizing a slat stacker, still an option. The "Bowler" or "derby" hats were quite popular it appears. Not a Pokey Dot or Choo-Choo cap in the whole bunch.

551762709_12hpCasetandemcompoundengineandthreshingmachineDavidFullerIH.jpg.53f92ea3bf561607ae865cc6c3256243.jpg

An unusual sight in the USA. These two British Fowler engines are winching cable plowing in California. The far engine pulls that plow out in the middle of the field its direction and this near engine pulls it back. They used flag signals when stopping and changing directions.

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This is a closeup of the British cable plow. It is steered one direction, then the plow crew goes to the other end to steer it back as that end is dropped into the ground.

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I know little about this three wheel tractor but I thought this was an interesting advertisement.

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A Champion Road Grader utilizes a McCormick-Deering power plant setting on a Trackson crawler conversion.

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A roller mill flour plant in Hebron, North Dakota.

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Plant workers hauled sacks of flower to the railyards to load flour into a boxcar. A horse team and wagon hauled one load and a brass radiator Model T Ford Car converted to a chain drive, hard rubber rear tire truck hauled the other load.

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A North Dakota man and wife drive their 1916 Model T on their farm in 1917.

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The same couple's 1916 Model T Touring Car has its weather curtains and tire chains installed. The engine and radiator are covered so the motor doesn't cool off, as apparently it is going to be driven again soon?

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The same farmer has his early (ca. 1917) Model TT Ford Truck ready to go work. Note the hard rubber tires in the rear.

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The farmer and his daughter with a grocery company's IHC "shovelnose" truck.

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The same farmer and daughter, with the truck converted to a farm truck.

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The farmer's wife posing with their Dodge Touring Car.

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Tough times for a Dust Bowl refugee farmer headed to California in his (unknown to me?) Sedan and family.

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Back to that North Dakota Farm. A team of horses harnessed to a "Two Horse Open Sleigh." (Oh what fun??)

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The farmer and his daughter as he plows his cropland.

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He's seeding with his team of horses here.

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This is a different farm taking a break while binding and shocking grain for harvest.

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That North Dakota farmer lifting hay up into his beautiful Barn's hayloft with a team of horses.

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A couple of Illinois farmers visiting and a son is on the IH Farmall M with the "heathouser comfort cover."

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A G Allis Chalmers tractor is all set up for painting Highway Lines.

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Seven of these IH mower tractors were built in Canada for tree farms to mow between the tree rows. This one has a narrow front end. I don't know which IH components were used to build this tractor?

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This IH Super C was also set up to mow grass between tree rows. 

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And since this is IH Tractors on a Montana Farm, here are four from my birthday a year and a half ago. Johnny the 1935 IHC Farmall F-12, Tony the 1940 IH Farmall A, Toot the 1944 IH Farmall M, and Annie the 1939 IH Farmall H out at Silver Creek.

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I bumped into this little IH Toy Truck that Johnny Bourke gave Mike when I worked as a partsman and salesman for him at Bourke Motor & Implement in 1974 & 1975. I had to take pictures for here. Gary😁

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3 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

A neat photo of an oil fired Holt traction engine pulling a combined harvester in a wheat field.

449304925_HolttractionenginepullingoneoftheirHoltcombinedHarvestersinagrainfieldDavidFuller.jpg.0f6b1dc0879f286995ffd1d19cf435b8.jpg

This Best steam traction engine WAS pulling a combined harvester. It's true; anytime you have fire in a ripe grain field, this can be the end result.😭😭

657023290_Compton0022DickVennerbeck110BestCombHarvfireimp.thumb.jpg.15405e25f02514d25e4555067759878c.jpg

A late 1909 or a very early 1910 32 hp Case straw burner engine on the belt threshing.

787572647_32hpCasestrawburnerenginethreshingDavidFuller.jpg.6f837eb647a1c9b006a5deee83d1f272.jpg

This farmer/engineer must be building pressure to go to work with his tandem compound Advance engine.

34530626_EngineersittingonhisAdvancetandemcompoundDavidFullerIH.jpg.151ef06e0b636de0f2de6f8f6db61585.jpg

Threshing in Iowa with a 16 hp Gaar Scott engine with its front wheels on planks so it will set level, to maintain the correct water level and keep water over the firebox's crown sheet.

73562316_16hpGaarScottengineinIowafrontwheelsblockedupthreshingDavidFullerIH.thumb.jpg.0329ca8bc006bfc0782e0c65890b00b3.jpg

A 16 hp Reeves double simple engine is busy threshing.

1137101579_16hpReevesdoublesimplethreshingDavidFullerIH.jpg.8849202fcd95f3d9439a0fd4e34120f1.jpg

This is kind of a neat photo of the threshing crew posing with this 12 hp Case tandem compound engine after finishing a threshing set. The earlier Case threshing machine still is utilizing a slat stacker, still an option. The "Bowler" or "derby" hats were quite popular it appears. Not a Pokey Dot or Choo-Choo cap in the whole bunch.

551762709_12hpCasetandemcompoundengineandthreshingmachineDavidFullerIH.jpg.53f92ea3bf561607ae865cc6c3256243.jpg

An unusual sight in the USA. These two British Fowler engines are winching cable plowing in California. The far engine pulls that plow out in the middle of the field its direction and this near engine pulls it back. They used flag signals when stopping and changing directions.

1796919263_FowlertractionenginesplowingabeetfieldintheSacramentoValleySugarCompanyinCaliforniaUnitedStatesDavidFuller.jpg.4f7c646499722ab5bab584524fbaf05c.jpg

This is a closeup of the British cable plow. It is steered one direction, then the plow crew goes to the other end to steer it back as that end is dropped into the ground.

1223596692_BritishEnglishstylesteamplowingwithcablesDavidFuller.jpg.baee03dddbd54bfffba29a8a6230de23.jpg

I know little about this three wheel tractor but I thought this was an interesting advertisement.

168183341_CommonSensethreewheelgastractorsimilartotheGrayIH.jpg.cf50d8f3954f48d95db10fd0a17948eb.jpg

A Champion Road Grader utilizes a McCormick-Deering power plant setting on a Trackson crawler conversion.

1616194804_ChampionmotorgraderutilizinganIHCMcCormick-DeeringtractorwithTracksoncrawlerconversionforpowerDavidFullerIHC.thumb.jpg.573f80fc82006c938d767aa9bcdb5ed9.jpg

Fire in the fields-------while pulling the thresher with a steamer.

That looks like he is pulling a full load in the top picture.

How often did the old timers encounter a fire started by the steam engine smoke stack???  Have always wondered-----even realizing they had a screen in the smoke stack.

*****

Sorta like that road grader.:wub:

 

DD

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Gary's photo of the barbecued combine harvester was being pulled by a Best steam engine.  Below are a few more pictures of Best steam engines.  The first one is believed to show Danial Best standing beside his 1903 Model A Ford.  I've also attached below, a video of a Best engine in operation.

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