IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[Mark (EC,IN)]

1 hour ago, Old Binder Guy said:

twostepn2001, I am very blessed to have the photos I have. I also got a lot of pictures from "aunts!" Back then our family shared photos with each other quite often. When my wife wrote her book about Grandma Yaeger in Y2K (2000) I was in contact with relatives everywhere in America. I gained some photos that way, for her book. I've been "borrowing" photos since 1952, when I started copying photos of people, tractors, steam engines and family. I keep expecting this computer to become constipated with photos and quit running someday. But, I learned in the 1990s to keep my photos on other places. (I now have a Terabyte Seagate storage. Since that is what my old steam powered computer has for storage, it should be ample and send a signal when the computer is about to be full?)

Now... My mother happened to be a Scots-Irish Hamilton. She had this box Kodak camera years ago. But I found I had to have a darn good reason to be taking (wasting film?) a picture. She watched the number of pictures taken SOOooooo close.

About a third of my cameras.

And it became worse yet when she started buying color film for her "new" Kodak. It was a Brownie Hawkeye like this one.

Now in 1958 Mom came out and took THIS photo of me running the 20-70 Nichols & Shepard engine with that same second camera in color. (Dang, I'd forgotten to put my polka dot cap on.)

This was when hen we went to California in December 1946 and my photographer uncle Bob, Mom's oldest brother took this photo of our family. I'd just turned three in August.

My big brother Bill bought a little Kodak Brownie Junior in the Redwood Forest coming home.

But I have three favorite photos I took with Bill's Kodak Junior. I've put them here before, but I don't think I've ever put all three here? I'm so thankful I took these three photos. The first is a train wreck at Sipple, Montana in 1953. The steam locomotive is lying on its side in the left background. The engineer was killed and the fireman was badly hurt. 

I've found this photo in places on the internet that I hadn't posted there! Our three McCormick-Deering TD-40 TracTracTors when Dad got the one with the Holt dozer stuck in a huge mud hole. I believe this one was 1952?

This one I took in July 1951, of our hay mowing crew. Alvin, Charles "Chuck" (No, that's NOT Beaver Cleaver.) and brother Bill. Two IH Farmall Cubs and a Farmall M. Dad is in the background getting ready to check cows on "Yank" the horse. The 32 hp Reeves steam engine is still up on the hill, the black spot above Chuck's head at the top of the photo. The McCormick-Deering 28" threshing machine is up the lane. And at right in the shed was Dad's International TD-9 crawler. Gary😉

 

There is no doubt that  "Chuck"  could be Beaver Cleaver's twin!

 

 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

2 hours ago, Mark (EC,IN) said:

 

Mark, That's not the first time I'd heard that. Every time I'd posted this photo on the internet, someone comes up with Beaver Cleaver for his ID. Gary😁

[Delta Dirt]

once a Marine------always a MARINE!!!!!!!!!

 Be careful where you spill those polka dots.

 

DD

[Old Binder Guy]

The college in Manitoba is all I know about these photos. The 20-35 Avery gas tractor came out in 1912, so that likely dates the photo that was put on Facebook as "ca. 1910." I know nothing about a Gould, Shapely & Muir gas tractor, but the tractor at front left is one of those. Roger likely knows all about one? The center tractor is an IHC, the right tractor is the 20-35 Avery gas tractor. The steam engines in the rear are: the close one is either a 12 or 15 hp Case. The telltale pieces are covered up. Behind it is a M. Rumely, the middle engine is a 20 hp undermounted Avery and the engine at right is a Gaar Scott. These men were being schooled on how to work on and operate these new fangled machines that were replacing horses. They could hire onto a farm, sawmill, municipality or whatever to operate their engines (hopefully) safely. I don't see a single choo-choo engineer here.

Someone else supplied this photo to Facebook of obviously the same gathering, only some movement has occured and at right is a Big Four gas tractor. Roger is fairly well versed on them.

In my letter to Santa Claus I specified my need.

and I told him I was a BAD, BAD boy this year. (Right Anson?)  Gary😁

[Roger Byrne]

Gary, I think you stepped over the line when you defaced a MARINE's head garment!!

[jeeper61]

What kind of of hat do you need to run this?

[Old Binder Guy]

1 hour ago, Roger Byrne said:

Gary, I think you stepped over the line when you defaced a MARINE's head garment!!

Roger, I probably did. I'd best work on getting Anson apologized to and bring him back on board. I wasn't trying to be mean, but I know Marines and former Marines don't like any bashing of their Corps. Gary😬

[Old Binder Guy]

16 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

What kind of of hat do you need to run this?

Jeeper61, How about one of these hats? Gary😉

[Old Binder Guy]

10 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

once a Marine------always a MARINE!!!!!!!!!

 Be careful where you spill those polka dots. I'm trying harder to be careful Anson. Please forgive me for that stupid blunder. Gary

 

DD

Anson, Sometimes I guess I don't know when to quit. Please forgive me for doing that dumb stunt with your cap. I went overboard. My apologies and please still be my friend. Gary, 1943.

[Old Binder Guy]

21 hours ago, Roger Byrne said:

Gary, I think you stepped over the line when you defaced a MARINE's head garment!!

 

21 hours ago, Roger Byrne said:

Gary, I think you stepped over the line when you defaced a MARINE's head garment!!

Roger, I put Anson's original "cover" back the way it's supposed to be. Gary😔

[Old Binder Guy]

I got this photo of an Experimental "1-F Farmall" Believe it or not, it is NOT a B Allis-Chalmers tractor painted red. That must have resulted in a lawsuit? But maybe it just stayed in a warehouse?  

This is an early Allis Chalmers B.

This is a later electric start model B Allis Chalmers. Gary😲

[jeeper61]

Here is another what kind of hat do I need for it?

I drive by this one every day 

[Old Binder Guy]

10 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

I got this photo of an Experimental "1-F Farmall" Believe it or not, it is NOT a B Allis-Chalmers tractor painted red. That must have resulted in a lawsuit? But maybe it just stayed in a warehouse?  

This is an early Allis Chalmers B.

This is a later electric start model B Allis Chalmers. Gary😲

"IH got sued but I think apparently got out if it- Allis was guilty of Laches (putting it out on the market then only applying for a patient later). IH out private detectives into West Allis bars to find out when the preproduction test tractors were sold to farmers." (Per-Guy Fay)

[Old Binder Guy]

13 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

Here is another what kind of hat do I need for it?

I drive by this one every day 

Jeeper61, Just any old hat will do on this Buffalo Springfield road roller. Pick one from this pile. There ought to be one that would fit? The engineer of this  15 hp Case is bent over shoveling coal into the firebox, so we can't see his polka dot cap. Gary😁

[jeeper61]

I wonder what was in those jugs.

I found a photo of the second owner looks like he may have had the proper cover

 

[jeeper61]

Is this like having a back up outboard on your boat?

 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

2 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Is this like having a back up outboard on your boat?

 

 

It sure could be. I can't explain that rear upright boiler. Maybe Roger can? I don't think it was put on there by Buffalo Springfield, though!

This Buffalo Springfield road roller is here near Helena. When I was young, it used to be on display inside Steffek Equipment company in their showroom. It was bought new by the City of Kalispell, Montana. I've not seen it since it's outside. A friend took this photo. It looked very new back when it was inside. However, it lacks that upright boiler of the one in your photo, jeeper61!  

This is a trainload of railroad flatcars headed to go to work somewhere. 

Now Buffalo Springfield did built upright boiler road rollers like these. Gary😉

[Old Binder Guy]

4 hours ago, Art From Coleman said:

I am so glad that OBG identified it, as I thought it was some British built machine, built with the latest Lucas steam technology, and I was going to suggest wearing a British period correct, "catch me, frig me" style of hat.

I had this all typed out and lost the wording. I found my keyboard I'd kicked unplugged.

Art, I have the Pith Helmet for any Brit to run this US engine.

These next two engines also look British. They are O.S. Kelly three cylinder road locomotives, here located in Cuba. The engineer hired to design this engine for O.S. Kelly was British. I can't remember his name. These crank journals are set at 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. They will always start when the throttle is opened and the valve lever set properly.

This is a brand new Avery undermounted engine's crankshaft built by friends in Missouri who restore engines, including building new boilers as this one will get. The double or two cylinder engines crankshafts are set at "Quartering." The valve openings and the pistons set quartering, should always start up when at full operating pressure. If not, they likely need their valves set. The crankshaft out of this 40 hp Avery at left had 7 cracks in it.

Avery engines were quite prone to breaking crankshafts for some reason. There used to be several Avery engines setting around Montana that were missing a crankshaft like this one near where I grew up.

This is a crankshaft out of a big 45 hp Minneapolis engine. I don't think it is too many miles from Roger? Maybe a Model A Ford drive could be done to there and back to his home in a day?

Roger's Model A gives this thread a Christmas touch!

This is our  15 hp Case engine. This engine happened to stop on "Dead Center." On a single cylinder engine like this, the engineer needs to give the flywheel a tiny tug, until the valved steam catches the piston. That happens when the connecting rod is just below or above the position below. The spark plug was likely fouled anyway? 🙃

But don't belittle single cylinder engines. Most steam traction engines were single cylinder types. This single pin/journal crankshaft below pulls 44-bottoms of plow.

Friend Kory Anderson's 150 hp Case does just that.

Son Mike and I were blessed to be there when Kory introduced his 150 hp Case to the world. It was a well attended event from all over the world.

Kory (Center) built this engine from scratch. He got the original blueprints and used a computer to make his casting moulds. I heard him explain it, but I'm no computer guru. The gentleman at right is friend one of the longest operating steam engine owners extant. Chady Atteberry from Blackwell, Oklahoma. He's a steam icon.  Gary😉

 

 

 

[jeeper61]

1 hour ago, Old Binder Guy said:

It sure could be. I can't explain that rear upright boiler. Maybe Roger can? I don't think it was put on there by Buffalo Springfield, though!

Yes it think may have been related to a repair or moving the roller to place it is displayed 

Here is a link to the story on the roller 

https://newsm.org/steam/buffalo-springfield-steam-roller/

I drive by the New England Wireless & Steam Museum everyday been to the steam up a couple of times.

Link to their site 

https://newsm.org/

The Fire Pumper is Portland Maine No. 5 1866 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

4 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

Yes it think may have been related to a repair or moving the roller to place it is displayed 

Here is a link to the story on the roller 

https://newsm.org/steam/buffalo-springfield-steam-roller/

I drive by the New England Wireless & Steam Museum everyday been to the steam up a couple of times.

Link to their site 

https://newsm.org/

The Fire Pumper is Portland Maine No. 5 1866 

 

jeeper61, That's the only thing I could think of for that rear upright boiler. That it furnished steam temporarily to be able to move it without having to prepare the boiler, fill it with water and fire it up that way? Thank you for all of the posting you have been doing! I looked over the museum site. That looks very interesting to this old codger.That pumper is a real gem too. I've never gotten to watch one in real life. Only virtually. Gary😉

[jeeper61]

I have been driving by that roller for years and think about your thread here every time 🙂 

There was some steam back in my blood lines Grampa, mom's dad, was a CN engineer he ran the freight line from Montreal to Rouyn Noranda Qc CN ran steam on that route into the mid fifties.

My two uncles worked for the railroads also mom's brother ran part of the CN repair shop in Montreal

The other uncle mom's sister's husband was the station master for Ontario Northland in Rouyn Noranda as his father was before him, he told me when he retired the same door knob was on the station door as was there when he was a kid going to get his allowance. Both of them always had to see any steam displays where ever they went and usually took me when I was or they were visiting. 

Here is a photo of Grampa with the first car in the family that is his brother on the left who worked for Ford in Ohio, Going to have to dig around I think I have a few of him in the locomotive.

 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

15 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

I have been driving by that roller for years and think about your thread here every time 🙂 

There was some steam back in my blood lines Grampa, mom's dad, was a CN engineer he ran the freight line from Montreal to Rouyn Noranda Qc CN ran steam on that route into the mid fifties.

My two uncles worked for the railroads also mom's brother ran part of the CN repair shop in Montreal

The other uncle mom's sister's husband was the station master for Ontario Northland in Rouyn Noranda as his father was before him, he told me when he retired the same door knob was on the station door as was there when he was a kid going to get his allowance. Both of them always had to see any steam displays where ever they went and usually took me when I was or they were visiting. 

Here is a photo of Grampa with the first car in the family that is his brother on the left who worked for Ford in Ohio, Going to have to dig around I think I have a few of him in the locomotive.

 

 

Jeeper61, I'm partial to those 1936 Fords. Believe it or not, I don't have a photo of the 1936 five window blue coupe I used to own with a 1953 Oldsmobile Rocket engine. It had a chrome air filter cover and valve covers. That made it "GO"! And my wife's family's first car that she rode home from the hospital in was a 1936 Ford Tudor.

This is Sharon posing with their 1936 Ford.

Her dad just shot a pheasant, likely for supper. Sadly that Montgomery-Ward 12 gauge ended his life many years later. 

Auntie Myrtle, Grandma, Sharon and Cleo (mom). with the Ford.  Gary😉

[twostepn2001]

l've been trying (mostly unsuccessful) to try and re-organize my picture files on my computer. ran across pics of different crude oil hauling trucks that l've driven over the years and thought l'd post some of them. l started hauling crude in 1989 at Lovington, New Mexico for Pride Pipeline based in Abilene, Texas. l don't have a pic from then but several years l drew one of the 1985 Marmon that drove.

ln 1999 Pride was bought by Sunoco and closed the yard in the town where l lived. l moved to Abilene in 2000 and went to driving for Big Tex Crude Oil Co. Started in a 1985 R model Mack. Rough ridin' 'ol truck and pretty gutless. But at least l was home at night. later on, they gave me a RD-70. l stayed with Big Tex and a few years later l got a 1997 Mack CH-600. Then after a few more years, l got a 2004 CH-600.

 

Then in 2006 l got a 2005 CH-700 and a brand new 185 Bbl tank. Really fancy too. lt had a Garnet See-Level digital gauge instead of a rotary gauge. On level ground it would show a really accurate Bbl count. Unless the oil was really heavy (35 gravity or less) l would usually try to load 181 Bbl's for each load.

Big Tex sold out to Blue Knight Crude in 2010. One of the few times that having seniority paid off in the oilfield, Blue Knight gave me and two other drivers a brand new 2009 Freightliner apiece.

But.....about a year later Blue Knight shut down the yard in Abilene and moved it to Hobbs, New Mexico. So again l went to another company in Abilene called TransOil. Got lucky and they gave me a 2009 Freightliner.

l drove it for little over a year and then got a 2012  freightliner Coronado and another new 200 Bbl trailer. Even got to go to Rhome, Texas and pick it up from the factory. Drove that one till l decided to retire in 2018.

 

 

[hardtail]

22 hours ago, Art From Coleman said:

From the AA/SD (Steam dragster) (various subclasses being fueled by wood, coal, or straw)

 

To the AA/FD class

Tough keeping the firetubes submerged on the rear tubesheet on that model but love the rake♥️reminds me of oilfield boilers on skids where they are using slough water for feed water and the skid has sunk at one end in the mud

[jeeper61]

twostepn I always like looking at Macks thx for showing us your offices over the years.

My buddies 1st truck was an R of that vintage had a coffin sleeper and a Cummins with Mack trany.

Since it's snow time here is a typical heavy snow remover on the east coast from that time period