Roger Byrne Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Gary . . . 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 OBG, l think you posted here once that you 'collected" pics of of steam tractors and engines......? l enjoy digging through online photo archives of different Texas universities and recently found quite a few pics of early tractors. Thought l'd post a few here so you could add to your pic files if you want. First one is a Oil Pull and caption says "tractor permanently parked by a feed mill to power grinders and other equipment. Bradshaw, Texas." Not sure what the situation is with these two guys or their steam tractor. Looks like they may be enjoying some afternoon "spirits" of some kind. But l do know it's a Case because of 'ol Abe sittin' on the globe.. l don't know what kind of engine this is or for sure if those two was wearing stripedy or polky dot caps. Just says "photo taken in a field near Shep, Texas. 1909" l patted myself on the back because l paid attention in the professor's class and recognized this as a Reeves. Besides it's painted on the side of it... Caption says "photo taken in 1911 at Cross Plains, Texas." This one just says "Tractor and plow, 1913. Moran, Texas." Hope you enjoy these and l have few more l can post if you want. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Byrne Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 TwoStep, the steamer you couldn't identify is an Aultmann Taylor with their bevel-gear drive. Below is a line drawing showing the drive system and a few photos of the one in the Henry Ford museum that came from the "Steam Engine Joe" Rynda collection here in Minnesota. These show a very early version of the steamer. The photo below is of a later version that is closer to the year and size of the one you posted. The tractor in the last photo you posted is a four cylinder 18-36 Avery. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Roger, thanks for all the information on the pics l posted. When l find some of these old photos, l know l can come here and 99% of the time somebody will have the answers l want to find. And l'm glad that others enjoy the old pics as much as l do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 9:16 AM, twostepn2001 said: OBG, l think you posted here once that you 'collected" pics of of steam tractors and engines......? l enjoy digging through online photo archives of different Texas universities and recently found quite a few pics of early tractors. Thought l'd post a few here so you could add to your pic files if you want. First one is a Oil Pull and caption says "tractor permanently parked by a feed mill to power grinders and other equipment. Bradshaw, Texas." Not sure what the situation is with these two guys or their steam tractor. Looks like they may be enjoying some afternoon "spirits" of some kind. But l do know it's a Case because of 'ol Abe sittin' on the globe.. l don't know what kind of engine this is or for sure if those two was wearing stripedy or polky dot caps. Just says "photo taken in a field near Shep, Texas. 1909" l patted myself on the back because l paid attention in the professor's class and recognized this as a Reeves. Besides it's painted on the side of it... Caption says "photo taken in 1911 at Cross Plains, Texas." This one just says "Tractor and plow, 1913. Moran, Texas." Hope you enjoy these and l have few more l can post if you want. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to thank you for posting those Texas engines for me and us. Roger didn't identify that late Rumely Oilpull for us as to size. It's a shame it's sitting there like that, but that's what some people choose to do with their stuff. It's theirs! The first steamer on our farm was an Aultman-Taylor, but was a later "spur gear" type that Dad operated. The guys in your photo obviously were wearing filthy, grease covered polka dot caps. That 1910 "dome forward" 75 hp Case has me thinking there a couple young guys who would stay with the engine all night and have it steamed up for early morning start up. I see a scoop shovel standing up, which tells me they were burning coal. My first thought was it was a straw burner, but I don't think so now. That 25 hp Reeves cross compound is quite an engine. I knew the Avery was an Avery, but I don't know most of their sizes like that striped choo choo cap Roger would know. Thanks for the photos and I'll take every one you send down the pike (or up the river!) Gary😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Hillbilly Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Gary I saw a fellow this morning wearing a cap similar in shape to your steam traction and choo choo caps. However, this one was black or dark grey or blue with 3 or 4 horizontal white stripes on it. Any significance to this style cap? Or maybe he was just fashionable? He was wearing denim bib overalls and driving a Dodge Caravan, if that additional information is of value. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 I don't know one darn thing. Roger and Anson would attest to that.🙃 So I'll just post pictures. First is this painting of "Bronc To Breakfast" by none other than Charlie Russell, depicted in central Montana. Making butter on the farm in the 1890s. Roger, This was posted on Facebook as an early Center Crank Case. I don't see the cast iron grillwork on the gearing? I don't think it is, but I'm not sure what it is? I don't think it is an Ames Iron Works engine either. I'm stumped. This IS an Ames Iron Works engine. Two men riding a very early automobile. The first White steam car built in 1901. A 32 hp Reeves cross compound engine threshing. A threshing crew at the cook car. LeRoy Blaker taking his first "selfie." Ladies in a ca 1905 automobile. I don't know what kind though, ROGER??? A lady in her sporty automobile. You could order one of these from the Sears & Roebuck Catalog. This is me sitting in Roger Byrne's Sears automobile. A late IHC MW(?) AutoWagon. A full swing steam shovel. A three quarter swing skimmer steam shovel. An Ooooops steam shovel. A Phoenix Logger hauling logs to the mill on ice. I've been blessed with engineering one of these. The Fireman is oiling his locomotive at a stop. Another Fireman lubricating his steam locomotive at a stop. Self Explanatory almost. It is a "Highwheeler" A 20-40 Case gas tractor with the late automotive type radiator. A JI Case automobile in a precarious position in mud. A ca 1919 Model T Ford made into a pickup for Ma Bell. A Keck-Gonnerman 30-60 gas tractor. This is a 1925 Model T Ford factory pickup. Considered by some to be the first commercial pickup. I think the IHC AutoWagon was, personally! Babe Ruth helping Chevrolet by breaking their window with a home run. Daniel's Ginn Wolfforth, Texas, for you cotton guys. Sherrick's JI Case dealership. That eagle on the globe atop that building would sell for several thousand dollars today. A plowing contest in England in the 1940s' A 1941 Farmall H pulling an IH combine. Factory photo. The same IH Farmall H and combine, dumping into an IHC C-model pickup. A 1950 Ford Country Wagon in the process at the Ford Motor Company. A 1950 Kenworth with a 2200 CI Hall-Scott marine V12 engine, back when gasoline was cheap! I think this is a little IH self propelled combine? At first I thought it was pull-type. An R-150 IH truck under the auger too. I hope I don't insult you "Steampunks" out there. I have a local friend who is one. He's always making a lamp out of a Coleman gas lantern, or a piece of steam engine brass lubricator. He's ruining them. But that's what happened to this IH Farmall grille too. It has been Windy in Montana up until late last night. These two photos of over the road semi tractors and trailers are on their sides. This is between Geyser and Moccasin, Montana on the 15th. This was in Glacier County 300 miles away from the above trucks. On the 15th. Gary😉 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Hillbilly Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Me thinks there be some photo-shopping in a couple of your pictures, Gary... 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Byrne Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Gary, the car is question is a 1905 Model F Cadillac. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Here is a Keck Gonnerman tractor that is/was set up to be on the Mecum auction. They were made in MtVernon Indiana which is about an hour away. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Roger Byrne said: Gary, the car is question is a 1905 Model F Cadillac. Roger, I knew it looked a lot like a 1905 Model F Ford, but knew it wasn't. The outside lever wasn't right. I should have thought of Cadillac, but my thinker doesn't work like it used to. Gary😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 OBG, l've posted that pic of the gin in Wolfforth, Texas in several different cotton and gin related groups that l belong to on Facebook and the burning question that everybody has is "why is that woman walking by on the road?" l don't know....maybe she had to walk across the road to the mailbox....? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 10 hours ago, twostepn2001 said: OBG, l've posted that pic of the gin in Wolfforth, Texas in several different cotton and gin related groups that l belong to on Facebook and the burning question that everybody has is "why is that woman walking by on the road?" l don't know....maybe she had to walk across the road to the mailbox....? twostepn2001... I got my picture from Facebook too. What I don't know is which is correct facing? I can't read the "Ford" or the license plate on that Model A grille near that woman. I can't see the steering wheels of anything to know which is flipped horizontal? I THINK I see the word "GIN" on the building above that truck or wagon that is on the scale or being unloaded in my photo. I don't know squat about cotton. Other than it is used in aspirin bottles, my tee shirts have cotton and I get it in my navel too. Now that woman... Maybe her chicken cross the road, and she was trying to find out the reason? Gary🙃😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said: What I don't know is which is correct facing? l think maybe your facing or photo orientation may be correct. l got my granddaughter to look at it (she is 17 and had has good eyes...lol) and she think it says Daniells Gin too. l'll have to ask my sister about it also. She lives in Wolfforth, Texas and a retired board member of Plains Cotton Growers Of Texas. We zoomed in on the woman and it looks like she might be carrying something. So maybe her chicken DID cross the road and she's carrying it back.......😎 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Dirt Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 8:03 PM, Old Binder Guy said: Gary🙃😉 No rain in forecast-------lots of uncovered cotton on the ground. Unusual picture for someone from here in the Delta area. Here------unginned cotton (as pictured) would have been unloaded into a "cotton house" so to be weatherproof. Difference in rain patterns for the area require different management practices. DD 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Delta Dirt said: No rain in forecast-------lots of uncovered cotton on the ground. Unusual picture for someone from here in the Delta area. Here------unginned cotton (as pictured) would have been unloaded into a "cotton house" so to be weatherproof. Difference in rain patterns for the area require different management practices. DD Anson, Cotton probably doesn't fare well on the ground? Here is a 1906 photo of 60,000 bushels of wheat on the ground at New Rockford, North Dakota, when elevators were full. Here is Moore, Montana, where I graduated high school. The grain terminal was full and there was a million (1,000,000 bushels) piled on the ground. This photo was taken from nearly a mile away. They've piled wheat on the ground for a lot of years there. I guess it doesn't "ruin" a lot of grain, but it doesn't help it any either. Gary😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Do the fireman's polka dot caps looked suspiciously photoshopped to anyone?🤔 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Here in corn/bean country we see corn piles every year. Very large piles. It’s a normal thing at many elevators. I know a couple guys who have custom buckets for excavators and pick it up with them when time comes to haul out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Dirt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, hardtail said: Do the fireman's polka dot caps looked suspiciously photoshopped to anyone?🤔 Hardtail and Hillbilly Thanks for your comments questioning the authenticity of the polka dot caps. I had held quiet on the matter-----thinking the guilty dog would bark??? I dunno------looks as if the guilty dog may have a hard core problem relative to these Easter Bunny caps???? DD 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Byrne Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 As Hillbilly and Hardtail said above, OBG likes to put Poky-Dots where they shouldn't be! I was kinda laying back like Anson to see what others would have to say. Sometimes you just have to let certain guys have their own misguided ideas because other wise they'll just 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, hardtail said: Do the fireman's polka dot caps looked suspiciously photoshopped to anyone?🤔 Those are obviously authentic photos, Hardtail. You're seeing them on the internet, aren't you? Ignore Anson and Roger. They'd beat a dead horse to life. Gary😊 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Byrne Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Below is a photo of a real old thrashermens reunion (not a show) taken in about 1954 near where I live and consisted of men from southeast Minnesota and a couple from northern Iowa. In my younger years, I knew several of the men in the photo. At least 15 of the men in the picture had owned steam engines and had done custom thrashing or saw milling in the early years. AT least five of the guys still owned steam engines when that photo was taken. I suppose I could mention that they are all wearing a variety of hats and caps . . . however I don't see any Poky-Dots among them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Roger, I see a bunch of steam engine owners. But I only see one steam engineer in this picture. A nice variety of hats though. The kid on the right hadn't been told that he wasn't a steam locomotive engineer yet, though. Gary😉 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Byrne Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Gary, you're grasping at straws and I see you are also playing with your photoshop program again. Maybe I should take one of the photos I have of your nice Model T coupe and do a little photoshopping to that?!?!? I better not, next thing you know OBG would be posting photos of Poky-Dots all over my old iron. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Roger Byrne said: Gary, you're grasping at straws and I see you are also playing with your photoshop program again. Maybe I should take one of the photos I have of your nice Model T coupe and do a little photoshopping to that?!?!? I better not, next thing you know OBG would be posting photos of Poky-Dots all over my old iron. Roger, can you put a shiny black photoshop paint job on this Model TT for Mike? Thank you, Gary😁 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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