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On 10/19/2021 at 4:06 AM, Old Binder Guy said:

Thanks for that Traction Engine Locomotive Mike. I have some photos of American examples. That must have been somewhat popular? Here are a couple of different Geiser Peerless engines built into them.

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This is a Buffalo Pitts.

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This is a Russell.

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And this is a British built engine of some kind and is believed to be in Australia or New Zealand. They may even be of your family, Mike?ūüôɬ† GaryūüėĀ

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..more great photo's as per usual, Gary thankyou .....:)

,,,However...re the above picture....it is easy to see that the picture is   taken  in Australia.....no mud  in evidence......and those are ''eucalyptus''  trees in the background....   commonly called   ''gum trees''    

Now ..i have a ''gripe'' with you Gary....just a little gripe...but  ...a gripe none  the less...:rolleyes:

You post some incredible pictures  from yesteryear...and some fascinating pictures of your seemingly,  vast shed complex's....but...recently there was a picture of a Japanese   car..."littering'  one of your shed pictures.....I live in a little country ...littered   with those Japanese   cars....  I know they are excellent vehicles......but please  Gary, in the future , try not to ''taint''  your wonderful    ''IH tractors on a Montana  Farm "'   site, with Japanese cars ...OK ??..

Consider yourself severely reprimanded........:D

Thankyou 

Respectfully...Mike

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2 hours ago, mike newman said:

..more great photo's as per usual, Gary thankyou .....:)

,,,However...re the above picture....it is easy to see that the picture is   taken  in Australia.....no mud  in evidence......and those are ''eucalyptus''  trees in the background....   commonly called   ''gum trees''    

Now ..i have a ''gripe'' with you Gary....just a little gripe...but  ...a gripe none  the less...:rolleyes:

You post some incredible pictures  from yesteryear...and some fascinating pictures of your seemingly,  vast shed complex's....but...recently there was a picture of a Japanese   car..."littering'  one of your shed pictures.....I live in a little country ...littered   with those Japanese   cars....  I know they are excellent vehicles......but please  Gary, in the future , try not to ''taint''  your wonderful    ''IH tractors on a Montana  Farm "'   site, with Japanese cars ...OK ??..

Consider yourself severely reprimanded........:D

Thankyou 

Respectfully...Mike

Mike, I was just wondering about my reprimand. The Japanese Toyota Highlander belongs to Mike and Pam. I was just storing the Model T in their garage while Mike was mixing "C-O-B" (Corn-Oats-Barley) feed he sells, and after the steam engines were put into the shed for the winter. I finished mixing it for him yesterday.

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I'm on the Reeves engine furnishing steam to the Peerless upright engine that's furnishing power to turn the Appleton Feed Grinder that grinds corn for C-O-B.

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Those of you from "corn country" will smile when I say Mike buys the corn at the feed store. It's not grown within 300 miles of here.

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Now, if you saw this car with the IH Tractors on a Montana Farm, the Japanese are going to be mad that you may have called this Hyundai I drive with a Japanese car? And, visa versa, the Koreans might be mad for their Hyundai being confused with a Japanese car? I don't know, therefore, I'm not sure?

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(Because I finished mixing Mike's "C-O-B" yesterday, I was able to get the Model T Coupe out of his garage so he could park his "new to him" Toyota Tacoma pickup back into garage again.) 

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And after my Model T drive, I was able to get that cute little rear end back into that stall of the shop, yesterday.

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I do know there isn't one Japanese, or one Korean car in this lineup containing IH Tractors on a Montana Farm! Three Fords and One Chevrolet. A Reeves and a Case. A 1944 IH Farmall M "Toot," a 1939 IH Farmall H "Annie", A 1936 McCormick-Deering TD-40 TracTracTor "Audie or Fred (ambidextrous usage)," 1935 McCormick-Deering Farmall F-12 "Johnny" and Mike's IH 300 Utility with loader. It doesn't have a name that I know of? Unless it is some of the #@$&*+#%$ names Mike calls it when it refuses to start.ūüôÉ But that's not very often! It can be out of gas, distributor cap with "green" terminals, spark plug wires, etc.

Randy took this photo with his fancy camera on a tripod and used the timer. He barely made it there with me and Mike when the shutter clicked! He didn't even have time to get his arms at his side. 

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The only other IH Tractor on this Montana Farm is "Tony," the 1940 IH Farmall A.

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Well,  Gary...seems I got my wires crossed......or in this case .....my ''sheds   crossed ''.....:).....then you hit me with a bunch of ''Asian ''  vehicles.....so I guess my ''reprimand '  has just lost any traction,   it may have otherwise had......thus I will go back and hide under my rock....again...:rolleyes:

The old Model "T"  looks  good !!

Mike

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Saw this pic on a FB group l'm in. lnfo said taken at Humble, Texas in 1922. l know the truck in front is a IHC......"shovel nose"....?  But it seems a lot taller than normal. Was there a heavy duty type shovel nose truck? And maybe someone can ID the other truck?

 

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The fellas are right, that string of fuel tankers are pulled by AC Macks.  They were built from 1916 until 1938 and over 40,000 were produced.  Most all AC's were chain drive but a few were offered as shaft drives.  They were built in 3.5, 5.5 and 7.5 Ton versions but all used the same engine.  The US Army sent 2,000 over to England during WWI and the soldiers nick-named them "Bull Dogs" because of how tough the the truck was.  The name stuck and in 1922, Mack started to use the Bull Dog mascot on their trucks.   I've driven a couple of the early AC's in the past . . . they are not for the faint of heart.  You need strong arms for starting and steering along with strong legs for the clutch and brakes!

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I have this photo I took of a Mack Truck with pneumatic tires, moving a building to our show grounds about 25 years ago. Notice the board and rope they used to lift wires in the move.

After I moved here to Helena, I took the 1925 Model TT Ford truck to a local car show and beside me was another Mack Truck with pneumatic tires and chain drive. 

And, Twostepn2001, Don't let us old guys bother you. I used to mistake that M on a Mack for the IH emblem. Thank you for posting that great photograph. I wish I could still buy gasoline for what the company was charging for the fuel in those trucks. The price of gasoline has gone nuts since the first of the year. About twice what it was last year at this time. GaryūüėĘūüė≠

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You fellows amaze me with your knowledge of old tractors, trucks, machinery.  Is it permissible for me to submit a few pics of my dad and grandpa's steam and gas tractors and have you identify them for me?   My grandpa farmed in Dakota Territory which, of course, became North and South Dakota in 1889.  My dad farmed in SD also and did custom threshing in Kansas and North Dakota.  I'd like to know the make and model of some of their old pics.

Here's one with my dad.

 

Best,

HMR

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A stage coach used from the out of town train depot at East Bridger, Montana to the downtown.

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A studio portrait of a cowboy with his 1876 Winchester Saddle Ring Carbine, and his wife.

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A 22 hp undermounted Avery engine threshing rice! The whole crew got in on the picture too.

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Art Garrity stopped for a drink of water from his burlap covered and wetted glass gallon jug while pulling his binder with a team of horses.

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I'm dumfounded as to what this Buffalo Pitts steam engine is doing with that cable (or chain?), on that straw stack? At first I thought he was cutting the stack in half, but maybe one of you will KNOW what's happening here?

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Here is a 25-50 Type B Rumely Oilpull kerosene tractor turning a Rumely Ideal wooden threshing machine with an extended feeder for "stack threshing."

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A Philadelphia Electric Company employee driving their "light bulb changing truck."

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I doubt this is in North America, and likely Australia or New Zealand? An early Model T Runabout with a tractor conversion installed, pulling a one horse walking plow.

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A 40-80 Avery gas tractor is pulling a road grader.

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A ca. 1923 Model TT Ford "C-Cab" truck at the Jenison Coal Mine near Froid, Montana.

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I had to stare at this photo for a little while to appreciate the scene and the work being done on steam locomotives in a railroad roundhouse.

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A "Climax" type of geared steam locomotive used for steeper grades in the woods, hauling logs to the sawmill.

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A "Heisler" type of geared steam locomotive also used for steeper grades in the woods. 

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This steam locomotive is a Shay type of geared locomotive, also used on steep grades. It's being moved to the Mehmke Museum near Great Falls in 1955. Forrest L. "Scotty" Zion is doing the moving. 

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An 18-36 Hart Parr tractor is pulling a combine.

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New 10-20 McCormick-Deering tractors are being painted at the factory. I don't know how many years that guy will last, painting with that little of protection? I had to quit painting automobiles in 1974, but that was because of the catalyzed acrylic enamel paints I had to use. But even Alkyd Enamel will kill you after enough years of this.

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A picture of a shed I stole from Facebook. It shows a McCormick-Deering tractor (maybe F-30? Or at least a F-20) on rubber, a McCormick Combine, and a Wide Gauge McCormick-Deering TD-40 TracTracTor.

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Men stacking sacked grain in Washington state. Roger can you identify the upright one lung engine running the elevator? I can't.

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Oliver Hart-Parr 28-44 tractors. 5,000 of the 28-44 were built and shipped to Russia in 1930. 

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International Harvester "suits" post with the new IH Farmall A "Clear Vision" in 1939. I know you can buy "Culti-vision" decals for a Farmall A, but I never knew about the "Clear Vision."

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A lady is on an early Fordson (9-N?) pulling a wagon with grain during WWII.

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I'll let you "cotton guys" from Texas and Mississippi tell us all about what this IH Farmall M is hitched to.

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An IH Farmall M beautifully restored, is sporting a Tokheim tractor cab.

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And this wouldn't be complete without an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. Mike is parking our 1939 IH Farmall H, "Annie" in his shed, and in it's winter parking place 10-11-2021.

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PS: What carburetor kit does the 1940 Farmall A  #FAA12007 take with this Zenith carburetor? The best I can do with the tag on the back side of the carb.

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They probably won't advertise Colt Python revolvers with Cadillac Eldorado Convertibles again, like they did in 1956?

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2 hours ago, HMR said:

You fellows amaze me with your knowledge of old tractors, trucks, machinery.  Is it permissible for me to submit a few pics of my dad and grandpa's steam and gas tractors and have you identify them for me?   My grandpa farmed in Dakota Territory which, of course, became North and South Dakota in 1889.  My dad farmed in SD also and did custom threshing in Kansas and North Dakota.  I'd like to know the make and model of some of their old pics.

Here's one with my dad.

 

Best,

HMR

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I'm going to "Guess" that could be a 30-60 Aultman-Taylor gas tractor. But Roger Byrne is the gas tractor expert here. And, you are more than welcome to post away HMR! We love "posters" and "participators" here!¬† GaryūüėĀ

 

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HMR, as Gary said, your father is standing by a 30-60 Aultman Taylor tractor and judging from the location of the exhaust pipe, it would probably have been built around 1915 or 1916.  The 30-60 A&T was one of the best (I personally consider it the BEST) and most successful of the big prairie tractors.  It was built from 1911 until 1924 and due to their high quality and superior engineering, many survive today.  There are couple of them shown here in Southern Minnesota, Northern Iowa and Western Wisconsin, so if you want to see one in operation, there would be several thrashing shows within a reasonable distance from you.  Below are couple photos of the one I owned back in the late 70's.

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HMR, I notice that your location is Rochester, MN . . . about 30 miles north of me.  Here are some photos of the 30-60 Aultman Taylor that was owned by the Shorty Lull outfit based in Rochester.  The operator of the tractor is Leon Urban and in the first two, they are building a road in our area.  The last photo is pretty historic . . . it shows the Lull 30-60 A&T pulling three 12' graders making the runway for the FIRST Rochester Airport in 1928.

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Gary great pics, I would imagine that coal being loaded into the Ford would have been a full load, probably not far to travel home, never had the pleasure of shooting a Colt handgun, still on my bucket list had a limited edition model 629 classic hunter that I unwisely sold, really nice firearm very accurate, don't care as much for the subtle changes S&W has done since and not a fan of stainless, mine was the bottom one in black but it had the sst top front sight, circa 1991

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1 hour ago, hardtail said:

Gary great pics, I would imagine that coal being loaded into the Ford would have been a full load, probably not far to travel home, never had the pleasure of shooting a Colt handgun, still on my bucket list had a limited edition model 629 classic hunter that I unwisely sold, really nice firearm very accurate, don't care as much for the subtle changes S&W has done since and not a fan of stainless, mine was the bottom one in black but it had the sst top front sight, circa 1991

HMR please contribute and post away

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Hardtail, I am not a fisherman but I can sure talk about "the big ones that got away!"

First of all, that Model TT C-Cab truck. People look at the spindly Model T and Model TT, especially in the front wheels. But these Model TT trucks were quite well balanced on the 30X5" rear tires and wheels. The spokes were heavy in the rear. Henry Ford used Vanadium Steel in his Model T Fords. Spindly looking, or not, they were actually a very strong vehicle when hauling a load. Their springs and rear of the frame on the trucks was very heavily built. So they're not to be foo-fooed in any way. The area of concern for me would be the rear tires, which all trucks would be viewed that way, back then.

Like a dummy in 1980, I needed a set of boiler flues for my 15 hp Case steam engine. The ones in it were "toast." I called around for flues. I found a set at a boiler/plumbing shop in Billings, 130 miles away. I remember he wanted $600 for them. They incidentally were the remnant from another job, so he probably had -$0- invested. But I wanted flues. He said, "I prefer to trade though!" Do you have anything to trade? I asked what he was thinking about? He said, "Do you have any guns you'd trade?" I asked, "What are you looking for?" He named about three different guns he really wanted. One was a "Colt Python!" I had an 8" Python with a cheapie scope on it. He said, "Bring it when you come. Maybe we can make a deal?" Sure enough, I went home with a set of flues and left my Python behind. I've kicked myself so many times. It was real stable to shoot with an 8" barrel and scope. That took about a third to a half of the kick out of that .357 Magnum. 

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And sadder yet, I had to run some bad water when I lived in the Flathead Valley and these flues are starting to leak from pitting. This is son Mike threshing in the Flathead Valley, when we were celebrating Montana's Centennial near the Kalispell Airport with the 15 hp Case. A newspaper reporter took this classic photo and he gave me a copy of it! The clouds were hanging low on the US Continental Divide that day. GaryūüėĀ

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Gary the early IH single row high drum (20 spindles high) as opposed to a low drum (14 spindles high) mounted on either genuine hi clearance Farmall M (chaindrive) or a  cotton picker tractor (gear drive) with an early type  suction fan, the squarish tall object on the right hand side of the tractor.   Notice the rounded corners on the cotton basket.  These last two items were not on the full production models.  There is one like this in the Smithosnian Institute in Washington DC. He is dumping the basket into a cotton trailer.

 

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HMR, the tractor in the photo you posted above is a 40-80 Avery or the later re-rated version, 45-65 Avery.  The 40-80 had a round tube radiator and the 45-65 had a automotive type radiator.  The different rating came after the Nebraska Test showed it didn't developed its claimed 80HP on the belt but did a bit better on the drawbar.  Below are a couple photos showing the difference.   The first one is a 40-80 and the second one is a 45-65.  The 45-65 belongs to the Budenski/Trelstad family and gets a little exercise every few years with a eight bottom JD plow.

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On 10/20/2021 at 6:53 PM, Old Binder Guy said:

One of my favorite IH color magazine ads, Brady Boy! One TD-14 pusher and the rest are TD18s. GaryūüėĀ

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I actually have this one too.  Brilliant!  BK.

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Roger Byrne:  man, you are like a computer!  Type in the question and immediately out comes the correct answer!  Thank you also for the additional info and the difference between the two models of the Avery.

Here's the next one from Daddy's old pics:

 

Is this the Case 110 steamer that he always talked about?  That is he at the controls custom threshing up in North Dakota.

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