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Another old childhood picture.  My dad (no hat), me, and my Uncle.  Looks to be my brother out back??   

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I don't remember this car being in the family????    What year and make is it????   (maybe Ford, Mercury, Lincoln????)

 

 

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15 hours ago, Howard_P said:

Strong resemblance to a 38-39 Mercury grille.

Thanks Howard P-----I kept thinking Mercury myself for some reason.

That musta been my uncle's car??  Hard to say how old I was-----maybe 4 or 5???   Born in 1943-----so picture was maybe 1947 or 48.

For any Cornhusker fans-----Uncle Gordon House played center for Nebraska in the early 1920's.  (he married my dad's oldest sister)

Damm-------believe I probably felt alot better that day than for today.  I didn't intend to live this long.??  (lots of water under the bridge)  

 

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I agree with Howard_P, it's a first series Mercury . . . probably a 1939 .  Below is a photo of Henry and Edsel in front of the first Ford Mercury.

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A page back, OBG posted a photo of a bunch of early International equipment from around 1919.  I guess if I can find an old store front on a dirt street, I could stage that same photo with the IHC stuff I have in my shed.  

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Someday I hope to have a photo (maybe even a Video) of all of that IHC equipment working out in a field.  The 10-20 Titan will be running the New Racine thrashing machine, the 8-16 International will be hauling bundles and the International Shovel Nose truck will be on the side to haul the grain.  

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Roger, there's a store just almost identical to the one above at Clancey, Montana. It used to be an old grocery store and now it is an antique shop. Maybe I need to take a picture and let you Photoshop it in? Either that or haul your stuff to Helena and we can stage it in person! Gary???

 

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On 2/1/2021 at 11:59 AM, Old Binder Guy said:

A bunch more old junk from Facebook to post. I don't know why I'm so fascinated with old farming equipment? This John Deere D may have had its GPS malfunction? Or maybe the touring car had its self driving equipment malfunction? Or maybe they were both talking on their smartphones?

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Likely that car was set up for Typwriting while driving and taking selfies like our 1925 Model TT Truck is?

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Speaking of trucks, this one is loaded with a neat looking old Twin City tractor set up with extension rims.

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The Silver King assembly line for orphan tractors.

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This is an early Fordson tractor. I was going to ask Roger if these with the "ladder radiator sides" were the earliest type? The only thing I know about Fordsons is they later added fenders, then added fenders with toolboxes, that were designed to keep them from going over backwards.

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The Fordson used the worm gear differential drive that could make the Fordson roll over on its back. I'd guess that it was seldom a good thing for the operator?

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This is a cute little Fordson that Henry Ford had made for his grandkids.

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An IHC Famous(?) gas engine powers a hay press, baling hay.

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Is this a Type B or Type C IHC tractor, Roger?

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I can't tell which IHC Mogul this is threshing either? Maybe Roger can tell?

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I can identify these though! An IHC 8-16, a 10-20 IHC Titan and an IHC shovel nose truck!

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I didn't even try to identify this tractor, the farmer's wife is sitting on the back end of. Knowing Roger, we'll get an answer.

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I do know this is one of the very first Flour City tractors built by Kinnard. It looks like much interest in watching it grade. Maybe they're all county commissioners from the land of 10,000 lakes?

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I heard from one of Roger's friends that he was going to make one of these combines out of his Rumely Oilpull. This would make it extremely valuable and saleable for his widow.

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Something a little more modern here. Two 930 Case propane tractors set up to pull in tandem. I have a friend who did this to two 930 Case diesel tractors back in the 1960s at Coffee Creek, Montana. He pulled a 24' chisel plow with it (them?).

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Tubacase47's Choteau show grounds has this unusual setup. A WD9 McCormick and an R John Deere.

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A REO Touring Car is chained up to pull a snow "plow" here in Montana a few years back.

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This is an old advertisement for the air cooled Franklin automobiles. A camel can go 8 days without water. A Franklin automobile can go forever without water! I don't think this was a "Shriner's" parade in Grand Forks, North Dakota, either?

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I can't find out what "Cajones" are in my Webster's Dictionary, but apparently (according to Facebook) that is who or what drove this big log on this hard rubber truck and trailer, crossing this man made logging bridge. Maybe that is the guy's name? No wonder it isn't in my dictionary!? I'll bet his name was C.A. Jones??

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Gary.....amongst your usual array of interesting pictures.......that one of the 'log truck ''  on that trestle  bridge......is that the same make of truck as pictured in Lorenzo's  ""The Awesome  Picture Thread"on page 38..???? I realise they are not the same truck.....the one on page 38 is ''cab-less''...and RHD   (interesting ...)..but as far as I can see....the running gear looks similar.....albeit hard to see the 'trailer''...because of loose tree bark....

Perhaps   Roger might be able to ID  that truck..??   I am curious...and interested in those old trucks..... I guess they were not exactly   ""laying rubber''  on that trestle.....but the construction of same  would have been equally interesting to see first hand.......and ''screw those ''Work Safe " dickheads"...!!

Mike

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Mike, I'll check and see about a match to that log truck.  Gary, thanks for the offer of that store front, but when I consider sending a couple loads of machinery to Montana, I get a little worried.  After all you never did find that load of melons from Anson!  shrug.gif.f419b1b317c5e10c3a2d9ae3e0a55766.gif  I think that old iron is safer sitting in my shed. 

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Mike, I knew I recognized that photo of the truck on the wood trestle.  I checked and it is a 5 Ton Garford truck and would have been built in 1915 or after and it had a four cylinder L head engine with a four speed transmission.   Many were used by the Army during WWI.  The photos below of the Garford trucks on the trestle, are from the Kinsey Brothers Lumber Company archive and were taken out in Washington state.

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Below is a short video of the 1920 1.5 Ton Garford we restored at the Van Horn Truck Museum back in about 1992.  Back then it started/ran better and shifted smoother than it does in this 2011 video.  Maybe the issues are with an in-experienced operator.  Whatever the case, it's great to see it looking as good as it did at the museum plus out in the public and driving around . . . not setting in the corner of a shed somewhere.

 

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Thankyou , Roger...for your info re the "Garford"  truck....I find it interesting the 1915 models were   RHD.......but the 1920 model is the normal, (for the US...) LHD ...great photo of the Garford , pulling 'triple's on that trestle.....Interesting re the "L" head engine...I imagine that would have been more complex to design and build...and by the look of the dia. of the steering wheel...it would have been a brute to drive , as depicted in the second photo, on the trestle...

..The driver of "The Electric Autolite Co"  looks happy enough...but looking closly at that picture...I wonder how he managed to get himself up into the cab !!! ...it seems very high off the ground.

Again...thanks for your trouble ...:)

Mike

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Roger, that information on the Garford trucks was great. You've become the professor of trucks on here, as well as those smoke belching gas tractors and fine automobiles.

Anson, It's Super Bowl Sunday and time for Elvis to sing his song for us "nawthan folk." Here's my thermometer this morning when I got up.

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(It's Two Below In Tupelo for you kids who don't remember Elvis' song.)

And here was our car.

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Now my love of the NFL and Super Bowl???

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Here is the lead some of those NFL football players could follow.

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There! I'm done with my day's rant!  Gary?

 

 

 

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Amen Gary!  I quit paying attention to the one game of pro sports I watched any of all year when they started acting so disrespectful. I’ve got no use for those who so quickly forget where the freedom to kneel even came from.  
 

It’s been tough lately with all the world happenings to see much good in people. Even when good things happen, they are overlooked or trashed before others can find out about them. Starting to get a little dizzy as we all spin around the perverbial toilet bowl that things have become. But, there is a place to look to for advice that doesn’t overlook good and is always constant. Don’t mean that to offend anyone but maybe a reminder to others as well as myself that when things seem a little bit backwards, there is still a place to look for answers. 

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1 hour ago, Sledgehammer said:

Amen Gary!  I quit paying attention to the one game of pro sports I watched any of all year when they started acting so disrespectful. I’ve got no use for those who so quickly forget where the freedom to kneel even came from.  
 

It’s been tough lately with all the world happenings to see much good in people. Even when good things happen, they are overlooked or trashed before others can find out about them. Starting to get a little dizzy as we all spin around the perverbial toilet bowl that things have become. But, there is a place to look to for advice that doesn’t overlook good and is always constant. Don’t mean that to offend anyone but maybe a reminder to others as well as myself that when things seem a little bit backwards, there is still a place to look for answers. 

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Todd, I couldn't agree with your statement or advice more! Gary

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Not exactly two below------but it is in Tupelo.

Snapped this picture of the water fountain on the grounds of the Lee County, Mississippi courthouse several years ago while doing some work in Tupelo.

Beautiful day-----but it wuz cold!!!!

 

DD

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2 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

Amen Gary!  I quit paying attention to the one game of pro sports I watched any of all year when they started acting so disrespectful. I’ve got no use for those who so quickly forget where the freedom to kneel even came from.  
 

It’s been tough lately with all the world happenings to see much good in people. Even when good things happen, they are overlooked or trashed before others can find out about them. Starting to get a little dizzy as we all spin around the perverbial toilet bowl that things have become. But, there is a place to look to for advice that doesn’t overlook good and is always constant. Don’t mean that to offend anyone but maybe a reminder to others as well as myself that when things seem a little bit backwards, there is still a place to look for answers. 

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You find a Bible that's falling apart and you'll probably find a life that isn't. 

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1 hour ago, TN Hillbilly said:

You find a Bible that's falling apart and you'll probably find a life that isn't. 

I’ve had that a looooong time. Just keep adding tape. Too many marks and notes to ever start over. ?

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1 hour ago, Sledgehammer said:

I’ve had that a looooong time. Just keep adding tape. Too many marks and notes to ever start over. ?

I understand.  If it ever gets to really being in danger of falling to pieces, there is a place in Mississippi that rebinds them.  I sent mine off several years ago when it got to losing pages.  They did a great job, very happy with it.  Anson might even know where that place is?

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9 minutes ago, TN Hillbilly said:

I understand.  If it ever gets to really being in danger of falling to pieces, there is a place in Mississippi that rebinds them.  I sent mine off several years ago when it got to losing pages.  They did a great job, very happy with it.  Anson might even know where that place is?

Good to know, it would be nice to have that info. 

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3 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

I’ve had that a looooong time. Just keep adding tape. Too many marks and notes to ever start over. ?

TN Hillbilly and Todd, My New King James bible was falling apart. I went to the tool closet here in our apartment wondering what to do, then I spied my roll of black (brown would have been better) Gorilla Tape and ripped some pieces that put all four tearing apart cover corners back together. (darn Chinese leather) Gary?

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I don't have a lot of IH stuff to post here, but here goes anyway. Mostly stuff I've stolen from Facebook posts. Here is a huge Foos hit & miss gas engine belted to a generator or a dynamo (I'm no electricity genius). This is for AOC days when the sun stays behind the clouds for weeks and the wind doesn't blow during that time.

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Here is a Type B or Type C IHC Mogul, I'm guessing. It's hauling sacks of grain to market or to the barn on the farm.

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A 30-60 Huber gas tractor is pulling an elevating grader. It is using coulters on the outer edge, so it must have sod to cut.

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Here is a GMC built Samson "sieve grip" tractor. I can think that traction would be great on dry ground. It may be pathetic in soft mud though?

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Here is a pretty new 12-25 Hart Parr tractor disking.

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I can't tell if this is a Wallis, Massey Harris or a JI Case Plow Works tractor, here pulling one of those cross mounted, tiny Allis Chalmers combines. It's still a neat photo. A Model TT Ford is part of the equipment too.

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A 10-20 McCormick-Deering with unusual rear wheels is pulling a "barge" while horses pull the header, cutting the ripe grain.

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This header and McCormick Header is being pushed by horses while the Barge is being pulled by horses. I'd love to watch this done, but I'll likely never see this in operation.

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These horses are pulling a McCormick binder in a grainfield, cutting slightly "green" (not ripe) grain, to be shocked, then later pitched onto bundle wagons after it is ripe and dry.

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Speaking of unusual things, I'm sure this method of swathing grain has been done in Montana, but I've never seen it done here. I think this is more of an upper midwest thing? We always just combined standing grain. That must be a G-1000 Minneapolis-Moline pulling this swather? I'm very ignorant about M&M tractors.

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Since I'm partial to steam and since it snowed here this morning, this is a steam locomotive that got stuck and buried in a cut somewhere in North Dakota.

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I posted this earlier, but this was our snow this morning. We've had about three inches since.

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And speaking of IH Tractors on a Montana Farm, I sure miss operating my old IH 1256 International I used to have with the snow blade. On straight aways, when I knew the lay of the road, I plowed at 7 mph and the snow sure rolled off of the blade in a pretty fashion!  Gary?

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Gary, 

Would the cold snow packed in and around the hotter portions of the steam engine have been a bad thing?  Could it have caused castings to crack or anything?  

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Gary, 

That black gorilla tape works good, it matched better on mine.

Todd,

I found the invoice from when I had mine redone at Norris Bookbinding in Greenwood, Mississippi.  I had it sent off to them, and they did a great job, as I hope you can see from the pictures.

And Gary, no need to use my Red Power "handle" anymore, seems much too formal, seeing as how we're all friends here.

Regards,

Will

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