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ray54, I've never been one to hoard history. I believe in sharing it for those who appreciate it. It doesn't seem like 65+ years ago that I first threw a match into a steam engine, but it's been a good ride. Thanks for "jogging" this memory Ray. I was still eleven and Mike Tyler was still 12 when these photos were taken, about 9 months after I threw in that first match. Gary😀

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I regret to inform you that Bud Budenski died Monday, just one day short of his 102 birthday.  Those that are regulars here have seen many posts about him by Gary and I.  He spent his entire life working with steam engines and was the last of the well know "Budenski Brothers" that hosted one of the early thrashing shows in southern Minnesota during the 1950's & 60's.  He remained an active farmer and was happy that he could get his plowing done this fall before the ground froze up.  Bud was a great friend . . . he will be greatly missed.

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Thanks so much for posting about the loss of Robert "Bud" Budinski, Roger. I counted it a blessing to get to meet him when I was there in 2010. I so admired their steam show those brothers hosted back in the mid-1950's. My visit with you, Ron Trelstad and Bud completed the circle I needed to feel like I'd been there to their show. This photo is of Ron, me, Bud and you with their Canadian Special 28 hp Minneapolis.

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The Budinski Brothers with their big Russell steam engine, Roger's photo.

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I don't know if you've seen this newspaper account of a Budinski Brothers steam show, Roger? I got if from Facebook from Kelly Barnett. Gary😥

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Thought you would like to see an up to date photo of the Red River Special separator from this morning Gary. Merry Christmas from Saskatchewan. 

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18 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

Thought you would like to see an up to date photo of the Red River Special separator from this morning Gary. Merry Christmas from Saskatchewan. 

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I always love seeing the old Red River Special, Ralph! That makes it "Christmassy" setting there in that "marshmallow" world! We didn't get our "White Christmas" but we have enough snow with dirt and leaves to have a snowball fight! Gary😉

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Gary and I are both old iron history guys and we want to relay the correct information.  I have to make a correction in OBG's Budenski post above, I think he mislabeled a photo I sent him years ago.  That photo is not of a Budenski Brothers outfit but it is a 25HP Russell steam engine (with a universal boiler) pulling a 36" Minneapolis separator and the outfit was owned by the Pleasant Grove Threshing Co.  The engineer on the right is Carton Denny and the man on the left is Roy York.  These are both men I knew back in the 60's & 70's and I later owned that Minneapolis separator from 1975 until 1986.  The photo was taken during the last run for the thrashing ring in 1956 because Hwy 30 was blacktopped and they couldn't access some of the members of the ring on the new "improved" road.  The photo has nothing to do with the Budenski Brothers who lived about 50 miles out of our area.  The Budenski/Trelstad family did not own a Russell steamer until a few years ago and they were partial to Minneapolis, Advance, Port Huron, and Case engines.

 

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Below is a photo of that same Minneapolis separator when it was part of my thrashing outfit during the 70's and 80's.

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Roger, I've forgotten... What horsepower was your Minneapolis steam engine? I'm thinking somewhere around a 24 or 25 hp? I don't know the smaller Minneapolis engines very well.

Here's something I've found interesting about the Minneapolis engines though. Early on, Minneapolis built a double cylinder steam engine and they decided to put a separate smokestack for each cylinder. This one pictured was their first one. It was obviously a momentous occasion, with the workers and some "suits" checking the engine out.

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They sold them in straight flue engines.

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And they sold them in return flue engines.

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I'm not positive who thought up this design? I can understand how, without trying it first, how it sounds like a new, better idea?

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Minneapolis soon found that the draft through the boilers flues, pulling the heat of the fire, which causes a hotter fire, which in return makes the engine keep up the making of steam through the stronger draft. Well, the draft was weaker due to: one cylinder exhausted, but instead of drawing heat from the fire through the flues and out the smokestack, it just drew cold air down the opposite smokestack, and didn't draw the fire as efficiently as needed to maintain steady steam pressure. So Minneapolis enacted a program whereby they would build a curved plate to cover the top of the front smoke box, removing the smokestacks and adding a cast iron smokestack, as used on their single cylinder engines. They piped the exhaust to the center, so it would exhaust (and draw the intense heat through the flues) up the single smokestack. This is one of the engines that was converted back to a single smokestack engine. These earlier Minneapolis engines all used round spoke driver wheels. They later went to flat strap, steel built up wheels, as on Roger's Minneapolis engine, since they were much stronger.

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Well a gentleman named Nick Blotti owns a converted double cylinder 18 hp Minneapolis.

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Since it had been converted from a double smokestack to a single stack engine, he took the liberty of converting his engine back to a double smokestack engine! To my knowledge, it's the only one extant? Probably since Minneapolis did such an efficient job of converting them to single smokestack engines?

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It was explained on Facebook how Nick added a (?) divider plate (?) in the smokebox somehow, and it apparently does what Minneapolis should have done? Yet when it just sets and smokes, smoke rises out of both smokestacks. I'm glad to see another double smokestack Minneapolis engine again! I didn't think I'd ever see one.

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However, When I saw my first picture of a 150 hp Case in 1954, and heard there were none of them left, it left kind of a mystical thing in my mind, wondering what they were REALLY like? Thep appeared to be humongous monsters! This is the picture I saw in 1954, in Floyd Clymer's Album of Historical Steam Traction Engines at Charlie Tyler's house.

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Well, in September 2018, on the 7th, to be exact, Mike and I saw the 150 hp Case introduced back into the world. I DID get to add to my bucket list, seeing an operating 150 hp Case before I "kick the bucket!" I will say, the (not politically correct) midgets, Case posed with the original 150 hp Case, #14,666, gave it a mightier appearance than it actually is. Don't get me wrong, it is a HUGE, HUGE engine! This is Mike and I sort of reenacting the above photo.215441951_14666GarymeMikewithKorys150hpCase9-8-18.thumb.jpg.3b5c48d6e714d0695b14682d90ebc3ae.jpg

And to show how huge it actually is, here is a front and a "rear end" view of the 150 hp AND the "little" 110 hp Case engines. Gary😀

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Just going to tell my friends here, Happy New Year; Happy New Decade! I know we celebrated a new decade in 2010 too. I'm betting I won't be here to tell you "Happy New Decade" again! (Anson may be around though. Maybe he'll wish you all a Happy New Decade in 2030?) So enjoy this one from me!

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I'm just cleaning out some of my files I've downloaded from Facebook. First I'm going to post pictures of IH Dealerships in North Dakota. This first one is in Medina.

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This next one is in Bowman, North Dakota.

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This one is still shown as McCormick-Deering in Bismarck, North Dakota.

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I don't know where this IH store might have been? They must have had a good IH Scout trade?

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Here are a couple of IH Pickups with stepside boxes. Apparently, they are more desirable?

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Now.... What are we looking at here? Did Rube Goldberg own an IH tractor?

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Here's a nice looking Farmall F-14.

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This is a later Farmall F-12 in gray with the IHC engine. The one on the right has the Waukesha engine of the early type.

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Here's an IHC Farmall F-20 digging beets and the beets are going into an IHC C-model truck.

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Here are two 1935 W-30 McCormick Deering tractors. One is a Standard and the one on the right is an Orchard.

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Now, last but not least is this "Season" photo of my old International 1256 Standard or Wheatland as some here call them. 

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Merry Christmas is gone by for an other year. But Happy New Year and Happy New Decade, Gary😀

 

 

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The Scout dealership is Pollard Motors on Lake St. in Melrose Park, IL.  They handled a lot of the managerial lease Scouts for employees in the area plus selling a lot to the public.  But they also sold a lot of bigger trucks too.

Yes, the other Scouts are the Fort Wayne plant lot.

Stepside pickups are desirable today for nostalgic reasons.  They were out of style in the 70s and not as many built making them relatively rare today.

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Happy New Year Gary, I certainly hope you can say it again in 2030. Folks are going strong and living longer than ever, so I have hope. Thanks for all the pics. Most people would not know, but I have an "unhealthy" interest in the IH 12 series tractors so I must disagree with you about the two F-12's. The early one on the right is equipped with a Waukesha engine not a Hercules. IH used the Waukesha until they had their own engine ready to go. 

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I better go ahead and wish all of us "old codgers" happy New Year right now.

Next year and the next decade sound like they are a long ways away.

I smoked a 17+ lb brisket today------and installed Wrangler's winter windows today.  Two projects in one day didn't leave much energy left here for the next year.  But somebody's got plenty-------there are lots of fireworks popping around the neighborhood.

Let's make it a good one-------Happy New Year!!!👍

 

 

DD

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Happy New Year everyone! ❄️🌲🍾

I like the dealership picture with the International 600 and the Farmall 400 sitting to the side. Must have been 1956 or ‘57. 

The mower tractor looks like a converted Hebard Shop Mule since the steering shaft goes down behind the fuel tank. But there are couple problems with calling it a shop mule also: narrow front like a B, fuel tank like a A or B and how does the steering work since a B front has the steering shaft on the visible side. So who knows, I’ll bet it was a handy mower tractor though!

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Happy New Year to all on the Form. Hope Health is good for us this year,

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13 hours ago, 12_Guy said:

Happy New Year Gary, I certainly hope you can say it again in 2030. Folks are going strong and living longer than ever, so I have hope. Thanks for all the pics. Most people would not know, but I have an "unhealthy" interest in the IH 12 series tractors so I must disagree with you about the two F-12's. The early one on the right is equipped with a Waukesha engine not a Hercules. IH used the Waukesha until they had their own engine ready to go. 

You know, 12_Guy, There was a slight hesitation in my head when I wrote that (off of the top of my head) and I wondered if I was right? That is one of the things I have going on in my head right now, at my age. I should have gone and checked. But now... I have egg on my face! I'll go back up there and change it. I know as well as I'm sitting here that that is a Waukesha engine! My apologies! I'll go back and correct last year's error!  Gary😲

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43 minutes ago, Old Binder Guy said:

You know, 12_Guy, There was a slight hesitation in my head when I wrote that (off of the top of my head) and I wondered if I was right? That is one of the things I have going on in my head right now, at my age. I should have gone and checked. But now... I have egg on my face! I'll go back up there and change it. I know as well as I'm sitting here that that is a Waukesha engine! My apologies! I'll go back and correct last year's error!  Gary😲

No worries Gary, I was just trying to keep the info on this site as accurate as possible. Something I know you strive to do as well. Thanks again for all of your posts and photos. 

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Well... I found this on page 4, and sinking there. I do have a dental in 55 minutes, but I wanted to post something, so I wouldn't be reported dead. Actually, I'm a bonafide Facebook repeat offender jail bird. My last visit, I was incarcerated for a day. This time, they revoked my parole and gave me three days.

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 I should be released on Wednesday Evening, but will likely be wearing an ankle monitor?

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Speaking of dead, I lost three friends yesterday. Completely unrelated deaths, just all happened yesterday. Two cancers and one Alzheimers. I wouldn't want many days like that. However, I'm at the age where my friends are dying. It's not just my dad's friends anymore. Most all of them are gone. I remember when my old steam friend Austin Monk was 90+, I heard another steam guy ask him "What have you been doing, Austin?" and Austin answered, "Mostly just attending my friends' funerals."

I have some IH Stuff from Facebook. I can still download anything there. I just can't post anymore photos of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani taking a nap on the street near the Baghdad Airport, while waiting for a wrecker to pick up his car. (No, I won't post it here either. I don't want jailed in an IH Jail.)

This is a new one to me. It's either corn or cotton? It's "Wheel Track Planting" requiring that wide front end on this IH tractor (not on a Montana Farm).

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I still remember the smell of DDT. I used to spray it in the chicken house in summer and in our back porch, where flies were innumerable. I just used one of these hand sprayers.

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I didn't douse myself with a hose like this Orchard McCormick operator is doing. However I do remember doing this with 24D. And my cancer was no relation to my spraying of Roundup. So I'll remain poor.

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This was a newly restored IH Farmall M. It just took my eye. No, it's not on a Montana Farm either.

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This is a good solid looking International 600 Diesel! At auction.

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Last, but not least is this picture of a self propelled dump rake. I've not seen one before. Farmers are so ingenious at times! But there is a Farmall M and a KB5 fire engine in the background.  Gary😉

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PS: I hope all y'all's 2020 is going okay by now?
 

 

 

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Professor-----

With your vast knowledge of machinery and equipment---------I am sure you recognized the gentleman on the self propelled hay rake as being one of the honorable and distinguished Rube Goldberg's grandsons.

The hay rake is quite a "contraption"!!!

 

DD

 

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Gary, sorry to hear about your friends. At 49, I am loosing more people my age then I would have thought. The days seem to be getting longer so 2020 is looking good. 

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Looks like on the hay rake he started with a F -12,or 14 single wheel front end, lengthened the fork, and went from there.  on the little mower farmall "B" (earlier post), i found it on farm show magazine, seems he started with a "B" , shortened the torque tube, took the long axles out, used steering from a "C"? (to each his own)    happy new year all  !!!   Fred

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6 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

 Actually, I'm a bonafide Facebook repeat offender jail bird. 

Last, but not least is this picture of a self propelled dump rake. I've not seen one before. Farmers are so ingenious at times! But there is a Farmall M and a KB5 fire engine in the background.  Gary😉

 

PS: I hope all y'all's 2020 is going okay by now?

Happy new year Gary. Noticed you were m.i.a. on FB lately so glad to hear you are ok. 

I've finally got around to digitizing some of the old audio cassette music I have here. I put one song together with some old family album photos for youtube.  Figured you might like this old tune by Carl Smith as sung by my uncle Roy back in 1955-56

 

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On 1/6/2020 at 6:39 PM, Loadstar said:

Happy new year Gary. Noticed you were m.i.a. on FB lately so glad to hear you are ok. 

I've finally got around to digitizing some of the old audio cassette music I have here. I put one song together with some old family album photos for youtube.  Figured you might like this old tune by Carl Smith as sung by my uncle Roy back in 1955-56

 

Ralph, I'm doing well I have an ankle monitor on from Facebook to make sure I don't escape and set up another account under a different name. The thing I couldn't figure out, I hit "post" and they were there faster than odor on manure. What made me upset, was they said it was "Sexual and Explicit." It didn't have one thing to so with sex. NOTHING.

 

I really enjoyed hearing uncle Roy sing along with his guitar. You put some great old photos from the past there too. Even a John Deere, a Case (without Roosty roosting on the steering link) and I was worried there was no IH Tractor on a Saskatchewan Farm. But you finally came through. That GMC struck a chord. I used to have a 1949  1-1/2 ton GMC that I've kicked myself for not keeping. It was such a great old truck. Low mileage (if I remember it was somewhere in the 20,000's?) Not a dent in it, and decent upholstery, floormat, etc. It had a nice steel frame wooden box with a hoist. The paint needed revitalized, but it was good paint. Like I say... I'm not a fisherman, but I can sure tell stories about "the bigs one that got away."  Gary😀

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Damm--------Loadstar and the Professor sure know how to make an old codger without any musical abilities feel like a total outcast here in the classroom.🙄

Ralph even makes great music with the exhaust from his 1600 Loadstar.  

Don't know which I like the best.  Ralph playing the glass packs------or Gary playing his "squeeze box"????  Both sound pretty good.

Plus it looks like Ralph must have had some serious training and experience in the photography and video production industry somewhere along the line.  You and your old friend Roosty continue to amaze me with your talents Ralph.👍

My musical ability is limited to whistling up ol' Wrangler and the cats to come on in to the barn for supper !!!😰

With the new year and new decade-----It's about time for Gary to provide us with some of his "squeeze box" entertainment.  Ironically-----I thought I heard you playing  several nights ago Gary-------but it turned out to just be a couple of the female cats in heat and singing "Searching for Love" and a traveling black tom cat singing "Love is where ever You Find It".  I believe Gary's accordian might be slightly better tuned than whatever instrument the tom cat was playing.😎

 

DD

 

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14 minutes ago, Delta Dirt said:

 

Don't know which I like the best.  Ralph playing the glass packs------or Gary playing his "squeeze box"????  Both sound pretty good.

Plus it looks like Ralph must have had some serious training and experience in the photography and video production industry somewhere along the line.  You and your old friend Roosty continue to amaze me with your talents Ralph.👍

 

DD

 

Happy New Year Anson. Thanks, but my photo and video edit training amounts to the same as my Uncle Roy's musical training. None. I'm a little envious of my uncles and their ability to pick out a tune on guitar, banjo or violin. Much like Gary does with his. I've made some feeble attempts (with my uncle's guitar) but pretty sure I have no natural musical talents like they had. I'll post Uncle Roy and the "M" just to keep this thread on topic. 

 

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Gary, It’s alright to get in a little trouble over something you believe in. One of my RP posts got pulled a couple weeks ago be cause it referenced a female California politician and Santa stopping at her house to drop off some presents. I have met BJ and respect his decisions, even though I felt it was more a funny than a political jab. Oh well...I touched it up to take any personal reference out to keep things above board this time.  It may show up in a later post...
 

In reference to some posts above. I have always thought the worst part of aging (I’m 36) was seeing people you love and care for passing away whether that was family, or friends.  Unfortunately death is a part of life as it has been since man messed up in the garden.  We just need to try and make the best of it while we are here and be a positive influence on those we contact. As iron sharpens iron so does one man sharpen another Prov. 27:17. We all need a little sharpening once in a while. 

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