IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[Old Binder Guy]

Loadstar,

Thanks for posting those old TD-18 photos. My heart always does a little "skip" when I see two exhaust pipes like those. They are fantastic.

The second picture is of my uncle Audie on our earliest 1933 TD-40, me on my TD-18A and my cousin Fred on his TD-40.

Thanks for identifying the TD 18 guys. I was never sure just what to call this one but now I can label it. What was the deal with the twin pipes? I don't know much about the power plant on these, was it something other than IH?

Wow, fingers are still stiff. I've been out snowblowing at -8F this morning for an hour.

Loadstar,

If I remember from working in the parts department, the TD-18 was an IH engine and it was maybe 691(Don't know for sure as the TD-24 was 1091, if I remember there too?) or thereabouts cubic inches. I don't know why International Harvester decided to go with double stacks on them. Likely because they both had separate heads? It probably wasn't because I liked the "cackle" they produced? That is likely an early TD-18? I notice the front arms for the dozer. My uncle Fritz bought a TD14 in about 1947 that had straight dozer lift iron like that. My TD-18 181 series had curved arms, as seen in earliers posts. I know mine was a Bucyrus Erie. I can't remember for sure about my uncles... I think it was Bucyrus Erie too? If his TD-14 had Bucyrus Erie, then the ones you sent us were too, Loadstar. Some things escape this old mind, kind of like sand through a screen.

I posted another picture of the A-160 stuck, with the finals and 24" pads of the TD-18A in view. I am posting an earlier view from the Contsruction thread I'd posted, of the TD-18A later after I'd built a cab for it. Believe it or not, it didn't have much trouble pulling that old Model T garage.

This was posted in construction too, but was a closeup, I'd lost of one of my early posts showing three TD-40s, with the dozer unit stuck. This is it again.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Palouse,

That is one beautiful 1600 Loadstar you posted. It is equipped like one I had, except for hydraulics at the rear. I do NOT have a picture of mine. A good lesson to the young guys... Take your pictures when you see one needs taken. A missed moment, becomes missed forever.

I know I posted this picture of the TD-18A below in Construction thread, but don't think I've put it in this thread yet. That was a 620 "Brand X" chisel plow and #5 IH rod weeders behind that.

I've included a picture of the 4568 and 36' #55 IH Chisel Plow. That green 1971 GMC Sierra Grande 1500 4X4 was my favorite pickup of all time.

Subliminal Message???

I've seen the places where they place a can of pepsi or something similar in a movie. I'd like to place a picture of my 1926 Model T Coupe here again. My brother Bill, old TD-40 TracTracTor lever puller, is riding with my newhew and his son, Randy, driving. Randy is the immediate past Chief of the Montana Highway Patrol and spent 20 years as our "bear in the air." He said he felt uncomfortable driving a car without seat belts. Hopefully, none of you met him while passing through our state?

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I found some more old pictures from about 1952. The first one is of the farm/homestead where I grew up on Beaver Creek, southwest of Lewistown, Montana. This is the house I grew up in and that was our 1950 Studebaker Commander parked out front.

The second picture is a close-up with the outer parts cropped. Notice left to right. The combine setting there is my uncle Bill's IH 125 SPV. At right is the TD-40 International TracTracTor Industrial-wide gauge, with a scraper on back. To the left of the scraper and in front of the 1000 silver fuel tank, is the old glass top gas pump I used to hand pump gasoline into everything from the Farmall Cub to the Farmall M.

The third picture shows what my dad used to build out of 1-1/2 ton trucks. In the foreground is an IH D-30 truck made into a power buckrake, for bringing hay into the stacker at the stack. Our family preferred calling them a "bull rake". Way to the left in a shed is a TD-9 with a Bucyrus Erie dozer and to the right of that is my uncle Bill's 125 SPV again. The 125 SPV had a lower grain tank and shortened elevators, compared to our 125 SP. The Spv also had the rear steering wheels spread out, not the "Farmall tricycle" type. It also came with single drive wheels, instead of the small duals and it was standard with a grain unloading auger, in lieu of the chute that dropped and grain ran out of with gravity on the old 125 SP. To the right of my uncle's combine is an old COE truck, maybe a Dodge? It was destined to be stripped down like the D-30 and have a Farmhand F-10 loader mounted on it.

This fourth picture is of me and my cousin James, with the "new" 125 SP combine behind us. I think this picture was taken about 1946? Maybe 1947. I was a little younger then and my handgun was wooden, i.e. not loaded.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Case IH evidently isn't a real new thing???

Well as expected, the pictures switched places on me, but I think you get the idea?

The fourth is a picture of the JR McLaughlin dealership in Fargo, ND in the 1880s. Notice the pennant atop the building is a "McCormick" pennant flying there. And notice on the left side of the dealership building, there is a J.I. Case portable steam engine there.

Don't ask me why I'm posting this third Case-IH photo; I guess just because I ran into it. I took this picture at the Camp Implement at Belgrade, Montana years ago, when I was attending the Barnes Steam and Power Show there. I don't even know the correct terminology for these Steiger four track crawlers.

First pictures are out of order... I also found a couple more pictures of my dad & brother's Rumely combine, pulled by a 15-30 McCormick-Deering.

Gary

[mikem]

Loadstar,

Thanks for posting those old TD-18 photos. My heart always does a little "skip" when I see two exhaust pipes like those. They are fantastic.

The second picture is of my uncle Audie on our earliest 1933 TD-40, me on my TD-18A and my cousin Fred on his TD-40.

Thanks for identifying the TD 18 guys. I was never sure just what to call this one but now I can label it. What was the deal with the twin pipes? I don't know much about the power plant on these, was it something other than IH?

Wow, fingers are still stiff. I've been out snowblowing at -8F this morning for an hour.

Loadstar,

If I remember from working in the parts department, the TD-18 was an IH engine and it was maybe 691(Don't know for sure as the TD-24 was 1091, if I remember there too?) or thereabouts cubic inches. I don't know why International Harvester decided to go with double stacks on them. Likely because they both had separate heads? It probably wasn't because I liked the "cackle" they produced? That is likely an early TD-18? I notice the front arms for the dozer. My uncle Fritz bought a TD14 in about 1947 that had straight dozer lift iron like that. My TD-18 181 series had curved arms, as seen in earliers posts. I know mine was a Bucyrus Erie. I can't remember for sure about my uncles... I think it was Bucyrus Erie too? If his TD-14 had Bucyrus Erie, then the ones you sent us were too, Loadstar. Some things escape this old mind, kind of like sand through a screen.

I posted another picture of the A-160 stuck, with the finals and 24" pads of the TD-18A in view. I am posting an earlier view from the Contsruction thread I'd posted, of the TD-18A later after I'd built a cab for it. Believe it or not, it didn't have much trouble pulling that old Model T garage.

This was posted in construction too, but was a closeup, I'd lost of one of my early posts showing three TD-40s, with the dozer unit stuck. This is it again.

Gary

TD-14 had a D461, TD-18 through at least the TD-20-200 had the D691. (14 is 4 cyl, 18 etc is 6 cyl. basically the same eengine, at least the sleeves and pistons.)

The curved blade lift arms are Bucyrus Erie, the straight ones like in the pic are Pullman-Isaacson built blades.

Hope this helps.

Mikem

P.S. Awesome thread....I love it.

[Old Binder Guy]

mikem,

Thanks for confirming the cubic inches of the TD-18. And thanks for identifying those dozer lift arms. I really appreciate it. The sleeves of a TD-40 are basically "the same" as the TD-14 and TD18, too.

I learned a long time ago that while the sleeves fit the hole, watch out for the parts number on the piston. Dad had a friend that owned a road grader with a "TD-14" four cylinder diesel engine. He mentioned he'd torn it apart and it had a bad sleeve and bad piston in one hole. Dad mentioned to him they were the same size. He said he didn't want to spend any money on the project and asked if Dad knew where he could get a sleeve and piston. Dad told him he had some used ones from one of our old TD-40s. He put it in the grader and everything fit fine, but when he started it up, it was terribly out of balance, like a tamper. The old TD-40 piston was of a much more ferrous material, apparently. I know from the parts department, you paid attention to whatever was after the number and the R. It seems like the TD-40 Piston was the same number, but the digits after the "R" were way off.

I am posting a picture blow up, I intended to post this morning. I lost it somewhere in my travels today. It was of the TD-40 & scraper, I'd posted above. It also shows our glass top gas pump, in front of the 1000 gallon fuel tank, and our 1950 Studebaker Commander Sedan. I am also posting a picture of my lovely wife of 43+ years on her dad's WD-6 in 1949 and her dad, the late Lynn Simpson, in the field about that same time.

Gary

[Dr. Ernie]

Loadstar, the blade set up you are probley talking probley a is a Icossion.

OBG, quad track is what you are thinking of.

Loadstar, the blade set up you are probley talking probley a is a Icossion.

OBG, quad track is what you are thinking of.

[Loadstar]

Pic of that truck below. It was one of my favorite possessions, a '65 1600 with 304 and 4+2 speed. I sold it in 1984 with only 32,000 mi on it. Had heavy St. Paul hoist and auxillary hydraulics piped to rear.

Palouse, nice Loadstar alright. Of course you've seen my 71 in the avatar on every post here but heres one I took of it back in 92 during harvest when I was still running the Massey 550. Same as yours with the 304 with 4+2. When that box was really full it held over 350 bushels which was somewhat above the GVW of 19,500 pounds. I have no complaints on the 304 but theres times I wished it was a 392.

[Tubacase47]

Case IH evidently isn't a real new thing???

Well as expected, the pictures switched places on me, but I think you get the idea?

The fourth is a picture of the JR McLaughlin dealership in Fargo, ND in the 1880s. Notice the pennant atop the building is a "McCormick" pennant flying there. And notice on the left side of the dealership building, there is a J.I. Case portable steam engine there.

Don't ask me why I'm posting this third Case-IH photo; I guess just because I ran into it. I took this picture at the Camp Implement at Belgrade, Montana years ago, when I was attending the Barnes Steam and Power Show there. I don't even know the correct terminology for these Steiger four track crawlers.

First pictures are out of order... I also found a couple more pictures of my dad & brother's Rumely combine, pulled by a 15-30 McCormick-Deering.

Gary

Gary: You probably know this, but in case some of the others don't, that picture of the JR McLaughlin dealership was taken by the famous F. J. Haynes who photographed do much of Yellowstone National Park in the early days. THe Montana HIstorical Society has several of his photos showing steam engines.

Tom

[Old Binder Guy]

Loadstar, the blade set up you are probley talking probley a is a Icossion.

OBG, quad track is what you are thinking of.

Dr. Ernie,

You are right. That's the name.

Tom,

You are very correct about FJ Haynes and the Montana Historical Society. They pretty much have his full collection. I especially like his Northern Pacific Railroad pictures, which is what this one is I posted. He also took wonderful photos of the steamboat era between St. Louis and Fort Benton, Montana Territory. I have a couple of steamboat pictures taken at Bismarck, Dakota Territory, showing four of the Block P steamboats moored there. They are stunning photos. I have a couple of nice books with his photos. In later days, he was THE official photographer of Yellowstone National Park.

I am very partial to steamboats of the Missouri River, between St. Louis and Fort Benton (the world's innermost port) as my grandfather Yaeger came to Montana, first in 1874, as a baker and hunter on Block P steamboats and in 1876 decided to stay in Fort Benton. He herded mules that winter for TC Power, owner of Block P, and began as a freighter in the spring. He freighted with mules, horses and oxen, making him a teamster and bull whacker. Grandpa was born in 1849 and died in 1920.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

My friend Joe Yurcic (yurick) owns this beautiful Farmall A hooked to a trailer at Helena, Montana.

My friend Dan Tombrink owned the Farmall C on the trailer, with my granddaughter Mercedes in front of it. Mercedes is now 17 years old and the C has long gone down the road. Dan found a bonafide "White Farmall C" which he has restored into a beautiful showpiece.

Gary

[PALOUSE]

My friend Joe Yurcic (yurick) owns this beautiful Farmall A hooked to a trailer at Helena, Montana.

My friend Dan Tombrink owned the Farmall C on the trailer, with my granddaughter Mercedes in front of it. Mercedes is now 17 years old and the C has long gone down the road. Dan found a bonafide "White Farmall C" which he has restored into a beautiful showpiece.

Gary

This nice little CUB has been showing up in 4th of July parades. Belongs to a young farmer here.

[Southpaw]

Thanks Guys . Great thread to follow along with. OBY will have to stop by some day when we are on that side of the divide. Palouse I think we know a farmer in common over your way , will have to dig up his name out of the old grey matter here. Can't remember it off the top of my head. My Grandfather homesteaded here in North Montana back when if first opened up. I still live and farm on a Great Uncles place. My grandparents retired over to the flathead back in the early 40's Lived 1/2 mile

or less up stream from the Mountain Brook School . The valley sure has changed over the years. Brother was station manager for the MTN TV over in Kalispell for a number of years. Finally got tired of the GREY and moved to Gt.Falls. Aunt lives south of Lewistown on Cottonwood creek. She moved down there in the late 40's . Sold their farm up here and went for the woods :>) I ventured off to college and California teaching only to wind up back on the farm in 69 . Been lots of ups and downs but always manage to get to "Next Year" Actually last year was the "next year " we were looking for . Should have quit then , Hutterites offered $650 an acre for the place . Wife of 45 years thought we should hang on for a while longer. So going to build new shop and hopefully get to the Red projects. Never farmed with Red other than Versatile . Case , Massey were the tractors and combines of my fathers era. I learned to drive an L Case pulling a pull type case combine. No water or electricity on our farm till the late 40's , Still no water . Seeing the Windmills down in the Gap is an impressive site. Mother 94 now says "no thanks" Only time we had electricity was when the wind blew. Batteries were all shot . Grandfather on mothers side was a IHC man farmed with 1530's and last out fit was a T6 I believe. When he moved to Creston (P.O.) he bought a new A They had 90 acres there and ran a few cows , milk goats , and huge strawberry and raspberry garden. they sold the berries by the flat in Kalispell. Grandmother was thrilled to move over there . Had running water , electricity and lots of wood to burn. My how times have changed.

Palouse ....Reg Parsons is the fellow . Met him years back through a SF chat group. We hooked up @ the Spokane Ag show back in 99 or so . Haven't heard from him in a while .

[Old Binder Guy]

Palouse,

That is one beautiful Farmall Cub. That was the first tractor I ever got to run on the farm. They were no powerhouse, but quite a tractor for their time.

Southpaw,

We'll have to visit sometime. I'm curious about the name on Cottonwood. I knew many people up that creek. Our family used to play for dances up at the Cottonwood hall in the early 1950s. My Model T Coupe came from above the Cottonwood hall. I bought it from Earl Shammel. The Deffinbaugh family were good friends and lived by the hall. I've only been over on this side of the hill 25 years.. Well actually, not until Friday, will it truly be 25 years.

I posted the harvest picture in the truck threads earlier, but think it rates a spot here. L-R: Dad's Scout coming down the hill, 1953 Ford F-350, 1953 IH R-120, Massey Harris 90 Special, IH 403 Windrow Special, 1960 IH B-170, 1958 IH A-160 and my 1967 IH 1100C.

Gary

[Southpaw]

Farr Family , lived just up the creek on the creek before you got to the school . Cousins ran T's for years down there. Freddy D and I painted the town red one Christmas . Been to dances @ the hall . Met Margie Mc Donald there :>) Her grandparents lived just to the east and south of the hall. Brain dead can't remember thier names. My dad put cattle on the Farr place on shares till they paid him off. We spent 4th of July there for years . We always branded then. good memories . Cousin Victor still in on the place . sort of a tough luck ranch . Too small in todays world to make a living . He runs a wood crafting business called Enduring Pines , pays the bills . The 2 older boys went off to the navy and never came back. The only Girl married a rancher from Winnet .Ken Damshen . He died of a heart attack while out hunting (only 40) . She died of heart problems 2 years ago . She was only 64 . Aunt now 93 just moved to town and lives in rest home. Tough life on a small ranch "up the creek "

[Old Binder Guy]

Farr Family , lived just up the creek on the creek before you got to the school . Cousins ran T's for years down there. Freddy D and I painted the town red one Christmas . Been to dances @ the hall . Met Margie Mc Donald there :>) Her grandparents lived just to the east and south of the hall. Brain dead can't remember thier names. My dad put cattle on the Farr place on shares till they paid him off. We spent 4th of July there for years . We always branded then. good memories . Cousin Victor still in on the place . sort of a tough luck ranch . Too small in todays world to make a living . He runs a wood crafting business called Enduring Pines , pays the bills . The 2 older boys went off to the navy and never came back. The only Girl married a rancher from Winnet .Ken Damshen . He died of a heart attack while out hunting (only 40) . She died of heart problems 2 years ago . She was only 64 . Aunt now 93 just moved to town and lives in rest home. Tough life on a small ranch "up the creek "

Victor Farr was younger than me and Floyd, owned the cylinder head on my Model T, requiring Dad to dig for another $5.00 bill to complete the transaction from the car's owner, Earl Shammel. Floyd and Earl were in my brother Bill's class at Fergus County High School as was the late Ken Damschen, Alberta's husband. And I sure as heck didn't know she died. I always kind of liked her, but older girls didn't pay attention to younger guys. I'm trying to think of the mother's name, as I can see her face as well as my own mother's. Was it Victoria? J.L. (Johnny) Barnes used to have a 1948 Ford Coupe or convertible, I can't remember which, but was maroon. He hid his adult beverages behind the left rear tire of that car. Freddie Deffinbaugh discovered that and on breaks, during the dances, he and I would attack the supply. Ed Deffinbaugh was in my brother's class also. I also used to go to the Babe Lewis place hunting and steam engine parts hunting. You went right by the Cottonwood community hall to go there, from the Cottonwood side. You could also get there from the Beaver Creek side. In the fall of 1952, Dad volunteered our music group to play for dances - one Saturday night a month - until spring and the proceeds would replace the shingles on the roof of the Cottonwood Hall. Frank Deffinbaugh tried to pay Dad in the spring and Dad said, "Naw Frank, you don't owe us a darn thing!" Frank did manage to give Bill and me each $10.

Completely off of the subject of IHC, but this picture was taken on New Years Day 1952. I am playing a C chord on my Bacon Peerless tenor banjo and my big brother Bill is playing his Hohner 80 bass accordion. If I remember correctly, driving to my uncle's place this day, we heard the news on the radio that Hank Williams had died the night before at age 29.

Gary

PS: I sure like the 1206 in your Avitar. My cousin had one just like it, with an Egging cab. Is yours an Egging?

PPS: Margie McDonald... If it is the one I'm thinking of, Loretta, her mother, ran McDonald Ready Mix in Lewistown and this Mrs. McDonald was a sister to JL Barnes, meaning it must have been the elder John Barnes who was Margie's grandfather? I think I have my gray matter aligned with the stars at this moment??!!

[Old Binder Guy]

Southpaw,

I had another bad habit back then too. Actually, it has gotten progressively worse and addictive. This picture was taken in the spring of 1955. I'd gotten to run it the year earlier as a 4th grader. I've been running them ever since. The Nichols & Shepard is a 20hp double simple side mounted engine of about 1914. Nichols & Shepard became a part of the Allis Chalmers family during the Great Depression. L-R: Uncle Bill with the water hose, me in the flat top haircut (My newest doctor, Dr. Ernie calls it folically deficient, or something like that, which is what I am today. I am not good at remembering medical terms, Ernie!), my life long friend Mike Tyler, and my dad is watching, making sure things are done correctly. Done improperly, steam could feasibly be dangerous. Done correctly they are no different nor more dangerous than an airplane, horse or car. I CAME BACK TO EDIT. DONE CORRECTLY, THEY AREN'T AS DANGEROUS AS THE OTHER THINGS I MENTIONED.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

After day dreaming here a few minutes about my steam life, I wanted to portray a shining moment. This was in 1988 at the Barnes Steam and Power Show near Belgrade, Montana. One of my best friends, the late Austin Monk built this 40hp Geiser Peerless steam engine out of parts. I am headed out to pull that 20 bottom John Deere plow. That is darn hard Montana gumbo soil there. It does one heck of a fine job pulling that plow. They now live in North Carolina. Geiser Peerless was purchased in 1912 by Emerson-Brantingham, making them also related to Reeves, JI Case and IHC, as step sisters, by marriage. I was wondering what kind of a hydrocarbon burning tractor it would take to pull that plow?

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I never know how these picture are going to show up? The WD-6 pictures are of my wife Sharon and her dad in 1949. My old "Corn binder" 4568 is shown in another seeding photo. It is pulling a #55 IH Chisel Plow and three IH 150 Shovel Drills. I figured I'd better get some IH back in here again, or this thread might get deleted?

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I never know how these will appear?

The Case steam engine and McCormick-Deering threshing machine picture was taken in 1989, the year of Montana's Centennial. Son Mike is on the steam engine and didn't own the threshing machine then, but does now. It also has steel wheels on it now. Early Case-IH.

The second picture is of my son in law Lance, on my 1939 Farmall H and in a parade at the Northwest Antique Power Association parade about 1998. He is pulling the water wagon that feeds water for the steam engine.

The shed picture is of son Mike, his wife Pam and their son Jake. Mike and my nephew, Randy, own the Reeves steam engine. At left is Mike's 300 Utility and to the right of it are my two Farmall F-14s. They appear to both be on rubber, but the one with steel driver wheels has rubber tires bolted to them. The Reeves is a step sister to IH through marriage. Case bought Emerson-Brantingham in 1926. Reeves had been owned by E-B since 1912, so you know the rest of the story. Ironically, during the original steam period Case and Reeves were competitors... Just Like John Deere and IH in the 1970s

I kind of like this fourth photo. I am threshing at the NWAPA show in 2003 with the 1909 15hp Case steam engine, turning the McCormick-Deering threshing machine now owned by my son Mike. Notice my friend's beautiful old 1953 IH R-160 under the clean grain spout. You can also see one of the IH white steel wheels on the thresher. You may think the photographer didn't know how to take pictures with that guy standing there in his green shirt. Notice tractor tires beyond him??? Well, it's a John Deere!

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I found these pictures of my son Mike breaking in his brand new Montana Steam Traction Engine License, circa 1990. He is on the engineers perch and that is my head above the water tank, firing for him. That old girl sure put on a show, there at Belgrade, Montana.

The third picture is of Mike headed out to plow with Carl Mehmke's 32hp Case in the late 1990s. This Case is the one Walter Mehmke broke his place (and many others) with, between Great Falls and Belt, Montana. This size would become the famed "110hp" in about three years after this 32hp engine was built in 1907.

This is Mike on my 4568 in the late 1970s. He was the best help I ever had on the farm. I could tell him what I wanted done and he simply went and did it.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Besides being old and normal, I started collecting spark plugs and hubcaps before I started school and wanted to share some of those I've collected. I recently gave them to my son Mike and he is the one who has come up with the melamine boards with oak trim. He likes things fancier than my plywood and coffee cans. I have only one IHC marked sparkplug in this display, but have several others so marked in my shop yet. Notice the size of the upper right hand plugs. They are all from very old tractors. There are two IHC hubcaps in the pile of them and they are just right of center, one high, one low.

The first picture is of a very old International Harvester "Famous" engine that was at our NWAPA show this past September. I don't know a thing about it, but hoped some of you might enjoy seeing it. It belongs to Skip Landis of Kalispell.

Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Sneaking in a couple of pictures of my original 1925 Model TT Ford truck at our local NWAPA old iron show here near Kalispell this past September. She is sure a lot of satisfaction to this old timer. I've been driving her for 52 years and she's handy for hauling threshing machine belts, grease, oil, steam oil, tools and a little gasoline. I drive her every chance I get when at the show... even to the outhouse. I put another picture of Dan Tombrink's IH ID-6, from the rear this time. Dan's brother Dick took these photos.

The last is a picture of an AV at the show this year. I don't know who owns it?

Gary

[JD Humm]

What a great batch of photos you have been presenting in this thread! Keep the photos and stories coming. This has to be one of the best threads since this site was started.

[Old Binder Guy]

My moms side of the family came from around Lewistown Montana, farmed there all there life. Anybody know Robert or Clarence Lang? Been trying to get up there before they are all gone.

klm,

Please accept my apologies. I was going through and noticed that I neglected to answer your post about Lewistown people. I don't think I knew Clarance, but may have. I'm poor with names. I sure remember Robert though. He owned Lang's Plumbing and Heating, plus had a farm near there somewhere. He used IH equipment quite a bit, as I remember. I remember he had some gold in his teeth. I had visible gold at that time too, so I guess I just was more sensitive about it? My gold is all white covered now. I worked at Bourke Motor & Implement in Lewistown from time to time, when I could and when they needed help. I often remember Robert coming in and my visiting with him.

Gary