Anyone with a 2366 with draper

[WisIHCFarmer]

Id like to hear from anyone who has a draper on a 2366, what did you need to make it work? Pics are a plus. 

[Dirt_Floor_Poor]

A MacDon and the correct adapter would be the main thing. I’m not sure of the lift capacity of a 2366, that may be a concern as well. Headsight could probably provide any electrical things necessary. 

[buckeyefarmer89]

If you don’t have a third feederhouse lift cylinder you’re going to need to add one. As well as weight on the rear end. The Macon drawers are HEAVY. And as mentioned above finding the correct adapter can be a challenge 

[acem]

Which header are you wanting to use?

I have a 25ft MacDon 972 on a 1480. Not exactly what you're looking for. But It needs the third cylinder to lift it. It's light on the rear. I have a mud hog but no weights.

Your 2166 should use the same adapter as the 80/88 machines except it may take more filler plates and a different front to back belt?

I have the books for the 972 if you need any information. It lists the equipment used on the 40/60/66 combines.

I think my 1460 would lift it with a third cylinder but it would be very light on the rear even though I have a mud hog on it too. I have used a 30ft 1020 on my 1460. A 21ft MacDon would be a little lighter.

 

 

 

[WisIHCFarmer]

It would be a 974/2062. No current plans for it, its an eventually project, If I found the right one type of deal. Just researching it.

[SDman]

Years ago I had a guy with a later 1660 that had a 30' MacDon header on it....that was a 960/962 header so it was built for small grains and designed to be operated off of the ground. He ran that combo for several years.

I currently have a guy running a 972 (same as CaseIH 1052) on a 2366. He's had this setup for 3-4 years now. Its only a 25' model....he doesn't have either rear weights or a 3rd cylinder. Its not a flex-draper, but its for operating on the ground. In my part of the world, I don't really think you would need a flex-draper for a header under 30'.

On a 2062, you would want the narrowest center canvas MacDon offered for those heads. IIRC, they offered center drapers with 38", 44", and 52" widths. A 2388 used a 44" width, 66s needed a 38" width. Like has been mentioned, you would need a 3rd cylinder and probably a set of rear weights if you don't have a MudHog RWD axle.

You will also need a switch in the cab to toggle from reel fore/aft to header fore/aft....the combine's reel fore and aft operates both circuits; there is a solenoid-operated valve block on the header that toggles between the features.

[acem]

I know where plenty of those adapters are for putting MacDon drapers on IH /CIH combines.

Unfortunately my friend passed away and everything is closed down  and locked up...

Probably get one from Eldridge Supply in Augusta Arkansas. They are an old IH/CaseIH dealer with a salvage yard. Very knowledgeable.

 

[Torque]

I ran a 30' 2062 on a 2144, had third cyl and 10 weights with mud hog. Need a switch for the tilt and a pump support. I hated that head, beans here can be 5' tall and when cut hit the backbone of the head and do not drop onto the belts so both sides can fill with beans with the belts zipping along under them. Then when they finally go it plugs the auger at the back of the head, never did plug the feeder house.

[WisIHCFarmer]

55 minutes ago, Torque said:

I ran a 30' 2062 on a 2144, had third cyl and 10 weights with mud hog. Need a switch for the tilt and a pump support. I hated that head, beans here can be 5' tall and when cut hit the backbone of the head and do not drop onto the belts so both sides can fill with beans with the belts zipping along under them. Then when they finally go it plugs the auger at the back of the head, never did plug the feeder house.

How did it handle it capacity wise?

[jass1660]

Drapers aren’t always the answer. 

[WisIHCFarmer]

12 minutes ago, jass1660 said:

Drapers aren’t always the answer. 

Most likely Depends on the question lol. It seems to me like it would be the way to go if wanting to move up to a 30' head. Currently running a 25' 1020 with an air reel and absolutely love it. But i like to think and throw ideas around so that if the opportunity presents itself I have an idea what I want.

[SDman]

They offer pea augers for draper heads for dealing with tall, bushy crops. Many in Canada have them for canola, peas, mustard, etc.

[acem]

59 minutes ago, SDman said:

They offer pea augers for draper heads for dealing with tall, bushy crops. Many in Canada have them for canola, peas, mustard, etc.

An auger/draper header.

That's complicated and heavy...

[SDman]

8 minutes ago, acem said:

An auger/draper header.

That's complicated and heavy...

So is trying to make an auger header wider than 35' work as well....that's why no OEM makes one wider than 35' to my knowledge. And you still can't get them to feed after the sun goes down.

[SDman]

30 minutes ago, acem said:

An auger/draper header.

That's complicated and heavy...

Actually if you want to talk about a heavy header, do what all the guys around here have done in the last 2-3 years and put an air reel on the front end of a draper head. All that extra weight on the front end of the header really taxes most newer combines' lift capacity. This is for our common problem...short beans.

[Torque]

23 hours ago, WisIHCFarmer said:

How did it handle it capacity wise?

I had swapped in a 2188 engine so made it mostly a 2366, did fine....was hard on rotor belts...