Wifi bridge questions

[rrr4quality]

Looking for ideas to get internet across the road to the farm. From the blue spot to the red dropped pin is .1 mile. Point to point wifi was suggested to me yesterday and there are a lot of systems out there. My biggest concern are the trees in front of the house, large white pines. Anybody using a point to point system or have other ideas?

[searcyfarms]

point to point needs clear line of sight for good function, not sure with the obstructions it would work well 

[acem]

Ideally you would run a fiber optic line.

[iowaboy1965]

Or use your phone or other device as a hot spot? I don't know a lot about this stuff.

[brewcrew]

Are there options for a tower to tower? Like windmill or tv antenna?

[zleinenbach]

I use a point of point for security cameras from our house to Turkey Farm. It is approximately 1 mile we’ve had issues in the past with too many cameras, trying to communicate at one time and it shuts it down. 

knock on wood it’s been working great ever since we readjusted a few things. Like mentioned above it does need to be line of sight.

[ray54]

I was told by local WIFI provider that trees will not stop a signal. I needed line of site for my main receiver to their transmitter, then repeater bouncing it across a creek just over 1/2 mile away to my house. But big oaks both sides of creek to block line of site.  But I finally went with a different company with a dish on my roof. So if somebody in the business says you can, it probably would. But tell them no money until it is proven. 

[New Englander]

Got good cell coverage? Unlimited plan and hot spot will give you usable internet unless you need full time.

[rrr4quality]

Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately cell phone coverage outside of the barn isn’t very good, one bar. Inside the barn I have to set the phone in the window for any reception. We have fiber optic running to our house but don’t want to pay another monthly bill for the farm. Might have to clear a path below the tree canopy.
 

[acem]

You can run your own fiber from your house to the barn. Don't need to have another service.

[New Englander]

52 minutes ago, acem said:

You can run your own fiber from your house to the barn. Don't need to have another service.

Can you cross a street?

[Guest]

There are a lot of variables to this, and a person can't predict whether it will work or not.  It might, or might not.  I set one up for a relative in town.  She owns two houses, directly across the street from each other, about 170'.  She didn't want to pay for both houses (lives in one, works in the other), and she didn't want the bridge outside for the isp to see....  Windows can block signal, walls can block signal.  Both were about the same, starting with about 500Mbps, down to 40Mbps through the bridge, through the window or wall.  Very stable though and works well enough.  Temporary outside was nearly the full 500 through the bridge.  And it was about the cheapest bridge I could get.

Are the trees yours?  If there isn't power closer to the road, you could get something that is PoE (power over ethernet), which at least some if not most bridges are.  I think the range on one side is about 300' max cable, but it depends on the cable quality and device power requirement.  And I think there are ways to extend that, but have not looked into that.  So you could set a device up closer to the road, and get through at least some of the trees.  Line of sight would obviously be best, but if you can't, and a tower/pole wouldn't help enough or isn't available, then it is what it is.  Ideally you'd want both sides to be as obstruction free as possible, elevated if possible.  And if you can find a quality system with high gain antennas, it MIGHT be possible to get through some of it.

Not an expert by any means.  It's probably going to take some trial and error.  If you want to test stuff, just order somewhere that has good return policies.

[Guest]

Forgot to add, if going through objects, lower frequency is better.  They make 900MHz bridges, which would penetrate better than 2.4GHz or 5GHz, likely at the cost of speed, possibly significant.  If line of sight, you'd want the higher ones.  2.4 might work as a middle ground especially if closer to the road.

[acem]

My (step)son got fiber internet at the house we are fixing up by my shop and grain bins. Would like to have internet there. It's a few hundred feet.

Talked to my friend who does networking for a major medical concern in the OKC area. He said not to use ethernet due to the distance. Directed WIFI can work but is unreliable. He recommended running our own fiber optic line. It's not hard or terrible expensive but takes some skill. Underground is ideal but above ground works too.

I have not done either yet. But plan on running fiber.

 

[Wi Ih]

I ran cat5 direct bury from house to shop, crossed a gravel driveway and it only put in at 18 inches and actually pretty reasonably priced. Works great.

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[rrr4quality]

Lots to think about, thanks guys!