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Talk of today black calves hit 1000 at equity stratford  and another guy said 950 at Priemer today, I wonder what beef will cost in about 2 years, or is somebody going to take it in the shorts, another guy said he had a Holstein bull calf born last wed night fed it took to the sale barn on thursday got 675, wasnt a couple of years ago they would be shooting 40 to 50 calves at the end of the day, There must not be the supply out there, 

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51 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

Took 14 open cows to the ring last week.  Mostly older cows and got over $1 per pound.  Been awhile since that has happened here.  

Sent 8 cull milk cows in.  Got a check for $11300!  1.89/ avg on rail.  Was there last fall for few weeks then been 1.40 1.60ish all winter.  If they are paying that for old Holstein there must be some demand somewhere or no beef ones to be had at least. 

 

$375 here for AngXHol calves.  Hol bulls... $50 to 75

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...we have different buying methods  down under......but R2.s  have  to be around 300   Kilograms on the hook.....but the price is down on last year....the lamb kill is up but the price is waaaay    down on last season...The Rainbow Station where I still work will loose about   1.1  Million dollars on lamb sales...thus my job as a machine operator on Farm Development work  has finished......Still around 500 acres to finish but by the time the primary produce returns .....(wool is crap , price wise..)...I could be deemed a bit to long in the tooth...

On our own little excrement heap, we got 510 NZ Dollars for Fresian/Angus and Fresian  /Hereford    dairy cross @  100  +  Kilogram live weight......

I think you blokes call "Fresian   " cattle ''Holsteins ""

Nothing like a Socialist Govt   to screw the Farmers....That Govt has gone..for now,,but the fallout rtemains....

Mike

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Here in Va the calves are 900 for angus cross. Holstein s are 650/750. I've heard that the national beef herd count has'nt been this low in 78 year's. That and the fires in Texas , i would'nt be shocked if they go higher. I myself think the feed lots are gonna take it in the shorts eventually.

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I am already on the sidelines.My backgrounding operation is more of a sideline than a full time operation. I can't pay $2 a lb for feeders let alone 3 or more and hope to make a profit in the fall.I sell to small farmers and part timers.I don't really have the confidence if I have to pay $1500 for a 500lb feeder that in 2 or 3 months there will be someone standing there to spend $2000 on the same steer. Couple that with 40 head and a local guy is going to cough up $80,000?.I harbor no ill will for the brood cow guys,more power to you.I am just one that's gonna sit this one out for awhile.I might wish I wasn't so cautious but I might not either. 

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51 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

Maybe I am wrong, but I see it as more of the “drive the little guy out” so we can have corporate farms. 

But it's the local "little" guy at the sale barn.

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54 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

Maybe I am wrong, but I see it as more of the “drive the little guy out” so we can have corporate farms. 

Exactly. The ruling class who believes they're personal manure has no odor have declared meat protein to be a delicacy for the proletarian little people, who are also far too numerous to suit them.

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We are sitting out buying ones for fattening. Have around 80 mainly Angus due to calve in the next few months. I don't want to borrow money to buy something I have no guarantees will be worth more in a year..... 

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25 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

Not around here. It’s the corporate calf buyers.  

They are paying high . If the price drops they are going to lose not the little guy. I think there are other forces that I won't mention trying to consolidate the beef industry to the top end of the spectrum. 

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23 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

Not around here. It’s the corporate calf buyers.  

Interesting.  We dont have anything like that here.  Buyer get calves from farms and they leave area 3x a week for ID or CA feeder customers.  

 

Fwiw... beyond meat and stuff are all in the toilet fiscally.  The fad is over really.  I personally feel people want 1 ingredient now some factory cocktail. That cost alot more.

Now I will say...unfortunately.  Technology will get better.  The one to worry about are the ones that are working on growing actual muscle tissue in a lab.  The taste will be same and prob wild tender.  The West just doesnt want farmers.  I dont know how else to explain the constant attack on ag.  NPR had a story about some carbon thing and farms.  Ag is like 3% of carbon.  Airlines 20% (not exact #s) and never a story about that.  Crypto is even bigger with their energy use...crickets.

Just no respect for us who use our hands in our culture

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As I said before. I haul pound cows and calves to the market twice a week for the horse n buggy people here. Was normally hauling 40/70 calves a week. Last summer a veal broker started coming down here twice a week and paying 150 more then the local sale barn. The farmer's saw that he was offering free trucking to PA with no trucking or commission and jumped ship to him. The local sale barn can't compete with that. I had a old time cattle jockey tell me he's seen this before and that in a year or so it'll right its self. We shall see.

 

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1 hour ago, bitty said:

We are sitting out buying ones for fattening. Have around 80 mainly Angus due to calve in the next few months. I don't want to borrow money to buy something I have no guarantees will be worth more in a year..... 

Sounds like farming to me.

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30 minutes ago, randy hall said:

Sounds like farming to me.

Reminds me of the pigs in the early 90's in ways. Price dropped drastically and almost all the little guys went bankrupt 

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Having worked years for a major food chain, the last 10+ years all their beef came from Australia, not sure how that penciled out, but it did. And now, local us market is climbing, I suspect from all the herds being shrunk in the last few years from the droughts, lack of hay, and now the fires will add to it in the next cple years. Sounds like a lot of those in Texas are being sent to slaughter again. 

I had 4 younger bulls 1-4 years old, I was thinking of selling last spring, well, now I sit with 5, I guess it's time to pull the trigger, and put the add out there 😁

Prices get high, we all will need to keep an eye on our inventory, I had 2 rustled from me just after covid, never did find anything out about that Incident

 

Mark 

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2 hours ago, bitty said:

Reminds me of the pigs in the early 90's in ways. Price dropped drastically and almost all the little guys went bankrupt 

As soon as Wall Street Meat had convinced enough people to sign contracts under the auspices of security to capture most of the production, they pulled the rope on the trap door in 1998. Al Tank appeared at the IL Pork Congress and Trade Show shortly thereafter to spread his hogwash about shackle space but anyone with common sense knew what they had done. A couple years later, I watched Maschoff Pork spend a half million dollars on Case steam engines and assorted threshing machines at an auction after they helped destroy independent hog farming. If Wall Street is out there buying all the calves as others have submitted, the same thing will happen because the Lure of easy money has a very strong appeal as Glenn Frey wrote in Smuggler's Blues.

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At 1000 a calf I wonder if any cow/calf guys considered pulling day old calves and pushing their breeding dates up for next year.  Not for me but not everyone thinks alike.

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34 minutes ago, hobbyfarm said:

At 1000 a calf I wonder if any cow/calf guys considered pulling day old calves and pushing their breeding dates up for next year.  Not for me but not everyone thinks alike.

I might sell the calf sooner but I wouldn’t push up the breeding date. 

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Why all the complaining about high cattle prices?   These prices are a long time in coming and well deserved for the cattle sector.   Yes beef will be a luxury product for some more so that is a bit of a down side in that it will reduce demand somewhat.    Fake meat has come and gone and those who thought they would make a killing by selling fake meat at a premium to real meat are counting their losses.  Justice done.

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