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Tractor of the week. Week 44: 806


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13 minutes ago, Farming Enthusiast said:

I find it exciting how some of the best and most iconic tractors from each of the major companies were in that 90-100hp range in the mid-late 60s. You had the 806/56, 4020, 1850 and MMG900. I'll throw the 190xt in there even though I've mixed reviews on it, at best

I'd put the 8000 Ford in that group, though it was rated 105 PTO.

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My uncle got into farming for a years back in the late 70s? He bought a nice 8000 Ford a small set of equipment (4 row?) And 80 acres of bottom land also the ouachita river in south Arkansas. After a few years he decided farming wasn't for him and got out. He was a banker during the day and wasn't impressed with the return on investment.

He bought a mid sized sawmill operation and built sweet potato crates and was much happier!

Dad Had several friends with 806s. Dad bought an 856. A neighbor still has an 806. 

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Our 806 diesel is a 1967 model. Dad bought it in 1971 and it's been here ever since. It had 1500 or so hours on it then, now has well over 16000. I overhauled the engine at around 13000 hours. It was the big tractor for many years. I think the 806 is the best model IH ever made. 

My dad and a neighbor used to do custom silage chopping in the 70's and early 80's with a 2000 Fox chopper. Neighbor had a 970 Case. Lots of hard hours on the 806 in those days. Before that they both had 560 gas tractors and an older model Fox, 2 row head. Low gear with the TA back in tall corn still wasn't slow enough. When the 806 and 970 came that was a major upgrade. 

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1 hour ago, FarmerFixEmUp said:

When the 806 and 970 came that was a major upgrade. 

Would the 970 run with the 806?

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1 hour ago, Steve C. said:

Would the 970 run with the 806?

The 970 was dynoed at 94 hp, once we did the 806 at 90 so very close, The neighbor had a lot of issues with that Case. One time he was getting coolant in the oil and they saw shavings in the rear end same trip to the dealer. So got an engine overhaul and I believe a ring and pinion set. I remember him saying it cost around $6500 to fix it which was a huge bill in the mid to late 70's.  

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On 11/1/2023 at 8:31 PM, 766 Man said:

  There are two types of people.  Those who have kept their 806 D and those who wished that they never got rid of their 806 D.  

Maybe a third type; the ones who don’t have one but have read so many positive comments about them that they wish they did.

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52 minutes ago, stronger800 said:

   For sure, here in NY, a 806 or a 4020 had always commanded twice, or 3x the $$ as any type of orange or orange/white tractor.  These days a 8000 brings good money too 

  For many years around here a good 8000, Case, 1855 Oliver brought 4-5 thousand.  A good 806 brought 5-6 thousand.  Early 4020 in good condition 7,000 plus and late side console 4020 10,000 plus.  Then 15 plus years ago everything went crazy.  

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My 806 doesn't look any different since the last time I posted something about it. So, for a change of scenery, I'll offer up some stills from one of the Gehl videos. An 806 is pulling a red Chop-All in the first clips & a yellow Chop-King in the latter. Included is a pic of the 3RN head on the Chop-King at the end. That head came out right before the paint scheme was changed up to Maize Yellow & Blaze Red in 1967. Not sure if any saw production in yellow? The forage equipment sales guru from that era does not recall seeing any yellow ones sold at that point in time. The ones pictured here would most likely be the final field-tested result before production.

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Mike

 

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11 minutes ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

My 806 doesn't look any different since the last time I posted something about it. So, for a change of scenery, I'll offer up some stills from one of the Gehl videos. An 806 is pulling a red Chop-All in the first clips & a yellow Chop-King in the latter. Included is a pic of the 3RN head on the Chop-King at the end. That head came out right before the paint scheme was changed up to Maize Yellow & Blaze Red in 1967. Not sure if any saw production in yellow? The forage equipment sales guru from that era does not recall seeing any yellow ones sold at that point in time. The ones pictured here would most likely be the final field-tested result before production.

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Did they have recommended hp specs for them implements back then? Seams like a three row corn chopper would take some power to run. 

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I'd say our 970 Case would have no trouble running head to head with an 806. I'd venture to say it would do it on a lot less fuel at that. However, I have always been more comfortable with the controls/operator station on the IH. Never owned an 806 but have run them at the neighbors and at a friend's place. Small enough to be a chore tractor and big enough to be the big tractor for a modest farm.

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55 minutes ago, F-301066460puller said:

Back then not near as much as it would now. 

  Back then 12 tons per acre of corn silage was a very good yield.  Today some farms on better soil produce nearly 40 tons per acre.  A 90 HP tractor might only be able to take 1 row in today's high yields.  

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2 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

No love for the MF 1100?  I’d at minimum rank those 3rd or way ahead of case and AC.  

I can only remember knowing one area farmer who ran a Massey, and it was an 1130.  Also saw very few Cases.  Mostly IH and Deere, with Ford next, followed by Oliver, then Case, and once in a blue moon a Minnie Moe or Massey.

Not sure about the order, but that's my best recollection.

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2 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

No love for the MF 1100?  I’d at minimum rank those 3rd or way ahead of case and AC.  

My mom's dad had a Massey 1100 until he quit raising cows. He thought it was the best tractor ever made. I thought the jury was definitely still out on that topic, but it served him well. He’s been gone for awhile now and the tractor has been gone even longer than him. I had always thought I would like to have one just because he did. I’ve looked around very casually, but they seem to have much better value than I would have guessed. 

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1 hour ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

My mom's dad had a Massey 1100 until he quit raising cows. He thought it was the best tractor ever made. I thought the jury was definitely still out on that topic,

We had its big big brother the 1150.  It was a good tractor to us.   I only mention the 1100 because I think it’s similar.  Perkins 354 good engine, closed center hydraulics and the 12 speed multi power was probably a good compromise between the 8 speed JD and the TA.  

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I gotta go back through this thread and see how many 806’s have turbos Vs not.  I grew up with two other 806’s in the area, and a 1206.  All had turbos. Our 856 has an M+W.  I forget that they didn’t all leave the factory that way.  
(even with the air cleaner and muffler out the side being immensely obvious on our). 
Trying to think of a 970 or an 1855 in the same bracket as an “806”,  my brain said “What?!”.  
-then I remembered the turbo situation. 
 

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6 hours ago, Farming Enthusiast said:

Did they have recommended hp specs for them implements back then? Seams like a three row corn chopper would take some power to run. 

The brochure suggests a medium sized tractor. Don't know if that was changed in the later brochures after the three row came out or not. Three quite reliable resources have indicated that a 1206/1256 or D21 was recommended when they were selling the machines new with the three row heads.

Mike

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lf l squint my eyes a little, l can almost see my Dad in this pic. The 806 LP, model #30 cotton stripper, the old scruched up straw hat. l have to give credit for this advertising pic to Brady boy and sharing it with me several years ago.

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