Littlefeller Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 I searched and it has been hashed before, but wanted to add the details of my specific situation. I am on 36 inch rows, not gonna change due to irrigation reasons. I just bought a 1660 combine and a 4 row 1044 and 8 row 984 head. I'm worried about the weight of the 8 row head, as well as not using the capacity and sliding off the ridges with the 4 row head. Ground is all flat and gravity irrigated. Opinions welcome. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drysleeves Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 As a point of reference, you'll use plenty of threshing capacity with 4 rows of 250 bushel corn in a 1660. Double that will be possible but you'll need to go slow to avoid loss and overwhelming the clean grain elevator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 I'm hoping for around 225 to 250 bushel corn. I'm sure I will add more details as more people comment. Thank you Drysleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 You will need three cylinders to lift that head as well as loaded rear tires. I ran a 12-20” head on my 1660’s for a few years and in 220 bushel corn was around 2.5 mph max a lot going thru the machine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axial_al Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 A 1054 five row wide head will allow you to have the drive tires between the 36” rows. Works ok with an eight row planter if you can drive pretty straight. Also works well using only four of the rows . Good luck! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Just now, jass1660 said: You will need three cylinders to lift that head as well as loaded rear tires. I ran a 12-20” head on my 1660’s for a few years and in 220 bushel corn was around 2.5 mph max a lot going thru the machine. Has the 3 cylinders on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Just now, axial_al said: A 1054 five row wide head will allow you to have the drive tires between the 36” rows. Works ok with an eight row planter if you can drive pretty straight. Also works well using only four of the rows . Good luck! Hard to find 1054 heads but I keep looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Also it has the DT466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 I run 36 inch rows on beds to furrow irrigate. I seldom grow a lot of corn but occasionally do. It's a pain to keep on the row with my 844 corn head (4 row wide). Impossible if it's wet and sloppy. I'm running 24.5x32 rice and canes with a mud hog. If I went to 30.5x32 or wider I think it would work better. You want the rear tires set right too. They slide off and turn you at an angle. My 1460 straddles three rows well and cuts 5 rows of beans really nice with my 16.5' rice header. If I put on the 20' head and try for 6 it's so difficult that I get less done. I think they made a 7 row header too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 This has 24.5 x32 tires too. Thank you Ace, good info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 That 984 is gunna be a heavy pig, plus 8 rows of of 225+ corn is going to be slow going. Only you know your fields, is slow or fast going to be better for staying on the ridges? Also 984 and the 1044 use different row units so most parts won't interchange. Personally I'd be on the hunt for a 1000 series head, lighter and newer if you think the 4 row isn't going to work for you and want something bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1480x3 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Trying to get a mental picture, but wouldn't the ridge/tire relationship be the same regardless of wether you ran a 4,6 or8 row head ? I know there were 5 row factory heads in wide rows and for a short while seems like a 7 row as well but could be mistaken on that, dont recall the series, but think 900 or 1000 not 800. You could recofigure the 984 to a 974 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 It matters when you grow your crop on beds. It don't matter if it's planted flat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1480x3 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, 1480x3 said: Trying to get a mental picture, but wouldn't the ridge/tire relationship be the same regardless of wether you ran a 4,6 or8 row head ? I know there were 5 row factory heads in wide rows and for a short while seems like a 7 row as well but could be mistaken on that, dont recall the series, but think 900 or 1000 not 800. You could reconfigure the 984 to a 974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, 1480x3 said: Trying to get a mental picture, but wouldn't the ridge/tire relationship be the same regardless of wether you ran a 4,6 or8 row head ? I know there were 5 row factory heads in wide rows and for a short while seems like a 7 row as well but could be mistaken on that, dont recall the series, but think 900 or 1000 not 800. You could recofigure the 984 to a 974 On four row I would have to take front axle extensions off and narrow the wheelbase as much as I can With a 6 or 8 row head I can extend it out to sit down in between the rows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1480x3 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Littlefeller said: On four row I would have to take front axle extensions off and narrow the wheelbase as much as I can With a 6 or 8 row head I can extend it out to sit down in between the rows So a 1660 is able to straddle 4 rows/ridges & with only a 4 row hd that puts you to close to the next rows. The fellows i worked for in Texas in the 70s straddled 3 and cut 7. I thought straddling 4 with a 1660 might be to much stress on axle, with bin full & 8 row hd. I'm sure a truss could be made that would makeyou find the new weakest link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 That is what I am afraid could happen too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I think a 5 row would be ideal. But they're kinda hard to find. In fact I've never seen one... Could you make a 854 from a 863? Or would it need to be a 883? If course then you'd need a 5 or 10 row planter, gps or really good diver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 I'm kinda leaning towards a 5 row as well Ace. Some of my guess rows are a little off, but I can make it work if I have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 If it's dry or frozen you can make it work. I never harvest on frozen ground. Dry or mud. Lots of mud at my place during harvest. Supposed to get two inches and severe storms tonight. It's hot and humid so that sounds right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I think I still have a really good 636 Massey head sitting at my brothers place north of Halsey. Not sure if the Bish adapter is still there. It hasn’t been used since 1998 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefeller Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 8 hours ago, Lazy WP said: I think I still have a really good 636 Massey head sitting at my brothers place north of Halsey. Not sure if the Bish adapter is still there. It hasn’t been used since 1998 though. PM me with details please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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