hillman Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I called my dealer(s) today for a gallon of 2150. NLA in Canada from what they said. spray bombs only. I cannot get Valspar, Corrstop( really like that one) I have 3 gallons of another brand coming from a shortline company and they will not be getting more ( I will post brand later) Krylon from Peavy Mart is pink Then I check online USA and its limited supply at $184.50 a quart, What is going on ? environmental issues? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmallFan Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Which dealer do you use. Not knowing anything about Canada I picked one in Ontario(Delta Power Equip - Exeter). This is what it shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 Thanks BJ, Delta is one of my local dealers, they just took over the area for my longtime dealer DW Group who dropped Case IH this summer. DW did not have any left so I called Stratford Farm Equipment who is the closest. They said they have none in their dealer network and there was none to be had at other dealers, They are all good about getting product in from the other dealers, She said its NLA. Seems odd Delta shows it in stock. I will call them tomorrow The paint I ordered should be Hershell/ Van Sickle ( thats what it was last time from that supplier) it went on beautifully but I haven't seen the tractor since I painted it so I have no idea how it stands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I'm told it's a hassle for CIH dealers to order paint on demand. Expensive shipping and handling. They are encouraged to make occasional large orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 its not just Case IH, Valspar - NLA, Corrostop( by PPG)NLA , Case IH -NLA ( according to parts-woman)and the shortline dealer supplier says the 3 gallons they have in stock will be the last- Van Sickle Environmental ? supply chain issues? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 John Deere still lists Case IH red paint. I’m not sure what shade it would match exactly, I don’t know if I’ve ever actually seen it. Part # TY25419 is for a gallon. It might work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerdukes Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 "Due to changes in supplier availability, these are no longer available. We are working with the supplier to address" That's the message I get while trying to look it up. I'm at a New Holland dealer but can look at case parts. There are a few dealers in Canada that have some on the dealer locator This is not good as Dad and I have a new project coming in the next couple weeks and it needs some lipstick and mascara. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmallzach Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I have used the John Deere Case IH red for years, I think it's a good match and it's good paint. Most of the dealers have to order it in gallons, some do carry the quarts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 5 hours ago, farmerdukes said: "Due to changes in supplier availability, these are no longer available. We are working with the supplier to address" I got a more experienced parts guy at Delta today and when I explained the situation to him ,he found the same notice word for word Exeter did not have a gallon but some in quarts, They had 1 gallon at another location which is being shipped to the closest location to me between Delta and Stratford Farm Equipment there are 10 locations and the DW group another four I could find 1 gallon only. the first post I made was Case Ih itself and it listed the quarts as limited stock. If you are looking for Iron Guard soon I would suggest finding it sooner than later. Who knows how long it will take to find a new supply/supplier The John Deere paint uses Valspar hardener. I always was under the impression the Iron Gaurd was made by Valspar. anyone know this to be correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroTek Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 You can thank the 3 letter agency and the commies on the west coast for the lack of good paint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, HydroTek said: You can thank the 3 letter agency and the commies on the west coast for the lack of good paint When the paint went to Low Voc I got my parts guy/buddy to get every ounce of the NOS old paint from other dealers. I am down to 1 gallon which I am saving for my Super W6 T/A, I wanted to stick to what I liked as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drysleeves Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 27 minutes ago, HydroTek said: You can thank the 3 letter agency and the commies on the west coast for the lack of good paint That started in 1978 with the alleged crisis of children ingesting lead paint, which never happened, but that wasn't the point anyway. Crappy paint was the ultimate objective and here we are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroTek Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Remember the 50 series tractors that would turn purple and pink from sun fading ... We painted several "new" tractors for customers during those years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 If you want some good paint, pay the bucks and spray some automotive epoxy paint. Just be sure to use all the proper safety equipment. It's toxic when you spray it. I don't understand the EPA sometimes. Lead paint is bad because some kid may chew the paint off my tractor so ban it? Epoxy may kill me if I breathe the fumes when I spray it but it's fine? I just don't need to think too much. It won't get me too far. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 I painted my W6 with acrylic enamel 30 years ago. It looks good but not really any better than the Iron Guard if it's just an oldie sitting in the shed 24/7 Letter Series , implements and yard art won't be getting that treatment here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 The automotive paints should hold up better to the sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 400 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, acem said: The automotive paints should hold up better to the sun. They do but has to be a urethane at least, acrylic enamel not so good. I've sprayed a fair bit of paint and in the process of doing an 1855 Cockshutt right now. I figure time I'm done I will have about $2500 in just paint no primers or anything else. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy hall Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 may be a Canadian thing. I bought a gallon of 2150 at the dealer yesterday for $116. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stronger800 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 $2500 cockshutt paint? Is it the absolute best automotive paint that you can get in the area? 1200-1300gal buys some good stuff here, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 16 minutes ago, stronger800 said: $2500 cockshutt paint? Is it the absolute best automotive paint that you can get in the area? 1200-1300gal buys some good stuff here, imo $1300 USD is $1753 CAD at todays rate , that narrows it a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 22 hours ago, randy hall said: may be a Canadian thing. I bought a gallon of 2150 at the dealer yesterday for $116. the parts manager at SFE thinks its a Canadian thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 400 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 9 hours ago, stronger800 said: $2500 cockshutt paint? Is it the absolute best automotive paint that you can get in the area? 1200-1300gal buys some good stuff here, imo It's mid grade Sherwin Williams urethane. I'm on the second gallon of red and got one gallon of clover white and not sure if I have enough red to finish. You burn threw a lot of paint when you strip it down and paint piece by piece. When I did my 766 5 years ago I had just over $5000cad just in paint and body shop stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stronger800 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I have an idea. Just not That kind of idea. it’s also possible that by only spending $200-300 at the body supply shop at a time, that I loose track of how much I actually spend in the end 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 400 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 14 hours ago, stronger800 said: I have an idea. Just not That kind of idea. it’s also possible that by only spending $200-300 at the body supply shop at a time, that I loose track of how much I actually spend in the end You do a very good job and your stuff looks sharp I guess the only difference is I do everything paint and body work myself unless I'm reading it wrong. Again nice job. If I knew how to get pics from my phone to here I would post the progress but have no idea how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stronger800 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 It’s a one man process here too. Although my father does help with assembly and wire brushing of parts that he can reach comfortably. Winter projects. i checked with my Napa guy today. He said $600/gallon is what most of the body shops buy, and he’s had no complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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