Big Bud guy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 https://jerrycollinsauctions.hibid.com/lot/169193822/1982-allis-chalmers-4w-220-tractor Local auction has a AC 4W-220. Always wanted one of those since I first discovered them. Apparently other guys have discovered them too because at that price and reserve not met, I’m not even going to bother. Probably could have got it for nothing 15 years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFTHEFARM Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Man, the old 426 had to be screaming for mercy in that thing!!! LOL Cool looking tractors though. Was the chassis on these Allis or were they subed out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 There are two 8550's coming up on the big JMartin auction in 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHandJDman Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 58 minutes ago, OFFTHEFARM said: Man, the old 426 had to be screaming for mercy in that thing!!! LOL Cool looking tractors though. Was the chassis on these Allis or were they subed out? All Allis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar farm Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 hours ago, OFFTHEFARM said: Man, the old 426 had to be screaming for mercy in that thing!!! LOL Cool looking tractors though. Was the chassis on these Allis or were they subed out? All Allis. That's what makes some parts an issue on them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Hey, DT Fan! Another pumpkin for ya..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I know where some like this are. I doubt they are for sale since there are several. Used to be a strong Allis dealer near Searcy Arkansas. This is a pic from the web. They are east of Bald Knob Arkansas north of hwy US64. They are wearing rice and canes I'm sure. They live outside. I thought they were built by Stieger? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale560 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, acem said: I know where some like this are. I doubt they are for sale since there are several. Used to be a strong Allis dealer near Searcy Arkansas. This is a pic from the web. They are east of Bald Knob Arkansas north of hwy US64. They are wearing rice and canes I'm sure. They live outside. I thought they were built by Stieger? Allis had a model before built by Steiger. It was the same as a bearcat or wildcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 400 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, dale560 said: Allis had a model before built by Steiger. It was the same as a bearcat or wildcat. That would be the 440. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (EC,IN) Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 With the topic title I was actually looking for this model AC: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 400 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 5 minutes ago, Mark (EC,IN) said: With the topic title I was actually looking for this model AC: Me too. One of those is probably worth at least 3 times more than that 4wd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Fan Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: Hey, DT Fan! Another pumpkin for ya..... Little big for my operation! Would be nice for moving snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale560 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, CDN 400 said: Me too. One of those is probably worth at least 3 times more than that 4wd. That would rank price wise with that 1026 standard on the other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 39 minutes ago, CDN 400 said: Me too. One of those is probably worth at least 3 times more than that 4wd. The bidding ain’t over yet. But I rather have the 4x4. Much nicer to run and way more usable. That other 220 looks like parade queen that’s afraid to get dirty with a don’t touch sign on it. I like to use what I collect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, DT Fan said: Little big for my operation! Would be nice for moving snow. You would look.good in that Mike. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, DT Fan said: Little big for my operation! Would be nice for moving snow. Until you realize it won't start when cold out without a good block heater and maybe some nose candy 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, acem said: I know where some like this are. I doubt they are for sale since there are several. Used to be a strong Allis dealer near Searcy Arkansas. This is a pic from the web. They are east of Bald Knob Arkansas north of hwy US64. They are wearing rice and canes I'm sure. They live outside. I thought they were built by Stieger? That model is a little bit more common. Dale is correct but in the 80s Steiger used AC transmissions in some their tractors guessing the same one in the 8550. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 11 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: That model is a little bit more common. Dale is correct but in the 80s Steiger used AC transmissions in some their tractors guessing the same one in the 8550. I think 1985 Steiger Cougars are the only ones with AC trans and optional AC axles. I’m not sure what transmission the 8550 used, but it’s my understanding the one in 1985 Steiger Cougar tractors is the same as a 4W-305. Mine has AC axles and the way the AC mechanic explained it to me was that the Steiger used two “front” axles from a 4W-305 for the front and rear. 4W-305 and 8550 tractors aren’t often mentioned as “muscle tractors”, but I always thought they fit that category with the twin turbo, dual stack set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 5 minutes ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said: I think 1985 Steiger Cougars are the only ones with AC trans and optional AC axles. I’m not sure what transmission the 8550 used, but it’s my understanding the one in 1985 Steiger Cougar tractors is the same as a 4W-305. Mine has AC axles and the way the AC mechanic explained it to me was that the Steiger used two “front” axles from a 4W-305 for the front and rear. 4W-305 and 8550 tractors aren’t often mentioned as “muscle tractors”, but I always thought they fit that category with the twin turbo, dual stack set up. They were probably no worse than the JD's of that era. Smaller engines compared to Steiger and Versatile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 5 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: They were probably no worse than the JD's of that era. Smaller engines compared to Steiger and Versatile I don’t know much about the engines that Allis used, but I can’t complain about the durability of the AC trans or axles in the Steigers. I don’t think I would be afraid of an Allis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted Saturday at 01:44 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:44 AM A couple more Allis 4x4 coming up on auction. Allis 440. Allis 7580 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
766 Man Posted Saturday at 02:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:37 AM The local AC dealer sold more than a couple of the 7580's in my area. Two were sold off in short order. One was a victim of the 1980's farm crisis and the other a father-son partnership gone sour. Nice to be back here after my previous computer died this past Monday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Farmer Posted Saturday at 03:34 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:34 AM My next door neighbor has a 4 w 305, got to run it for a day about 4 years back. It had a funny vibration if ran at full throttle. Back it off a little and all was fine. After 3 dropped valves and ruined pistons and 1 head. The injection pump was found to be turned up way too high by the previous owner. The funny vibration and the twin smoke trail went away after the pump was set back to spec. With the new power setting on the pump ,there wasn't any notable loss in performance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM If your gonna drive that ol girl home, ya better pack a lunch------------or 12! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkorth Posted Saturday at 11:50 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:50 PM 21 hours ago, acem said: A couple more Allis 4x4 coming up on auction. Allis 440. Allis 7580 Those tractors are right in my neighborhood, straight up guy. I think the 440 came out of Montana about 10 years ago . His family has more Allis Chalmers equipment than anyone in the country and they farm a fair amount of land with it, they also restore AC tractors for people all over the USA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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