acem Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 The flow of the Mississippi River has slowed down to the point that saltwater is flowing upstream on the bottom of the channel while the freshwater flows on the top. This causes all kinds of problems for drinking water systems. They are talking about bringing freshwater in on barges. It looks like it could come as far upstream as the French quarter! https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/saltwater-intrusion-emergency-a-top-priority-for-army-corps-of-engineers-in-louisiana/289-d05a5c86-b1c0-4ddf-9164-8536e8c41a02 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G. Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 More crazy stuff going on. Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 New England and the Maritimes have had nothing but rain all summer. Too bad we can't shift some of that precip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 They are now expecting salt water to be picked up by the new Orleans drinking water on October 10th, across from the French quarter https://lailluminator.com/2023/09/22/saltwater-river/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 They are planning to barge 36 million gallons of fresh water a day in to new Orleans... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/23/us/freshwater-new-orleans-saltwater-mississippi-river/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Forever Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 We are trying…had 2.7” last night. But we are so dry I don’t think any will make it to the Mississippi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcyfarms Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 according to the archives of a quick search of CNN, NPR, Army Corp of Engs here on the WWWhackos ( self included ) this happens historically every 8 to 12 yrs and whatta ya know..........its fitting the schedule, 1988, 2012, now 2023 well by golly we may be onto something!!! just another distraction of crazy to talk about and freak people out with for shock value on the boob tube 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 I understand that it's not the first time it has happened. But barging 36 million gallons of water daily is crazy to me?!?! If this happens every so often they just need to build a pipeline from another source... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drysleeves Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Cycles, baby, cycles. It all averages out. The Grand Canyon and that giant meteor crater in AZ aren't man made. Don't believe I'd have wanted to be anywhere near this planet when those things happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 In 20 years on USN ships we always converted sea water into drinking water. I always liked the term "water water every where but not a drop to drink. " Politics beware, we should pull the plug on high maintenance areas like The Big Easy and let mother nature reclaim ownership. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Some places like Aruba and Saudi Arabia use reverse osmosis to remove salt from seawater. I just can't believe they are barging in that much water... I bet the US government, not the city of new Orleans is footing the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 21 minutes ago, oleman said: Politics beware, we should pull the plug on high maintenance areas like The Big Easy and let mother nature reclaim ownership. Hehe. Ya know, some wag once described New Orleans as a city built on a sponge that is below sea level. Not only is the city itself high maintenance, but huge amounts of effort are expended to keep the Mississippi River flowing through NO, but not allowing it to be flooded. If given free rein, the Mighty Miss would head down the Achafalaya basin and not be a substantial part of NO for another 1000 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 In all fairness it was much higher when built. It keeps sinking. But yeah. Nawlins is alot of strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjf711 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 In southern il we never really made up last years rain shortage, dry again this fall. Going to take some big rains to get anything from the watershed around here to the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, cjf711 said: In southern il we never really made up last years rain shortage, dry again this fall. Going to take some big rains to get anything from the watershed around here to the river. Back in August we had 4” of rain over the course of 24 hours or so, most of it being a good 3” at once. Very little ran off, and in spite of that rain about 2 weeks later the creek that runs under the road by my driveway stopped flowing on about the same schedule as if it hadn’t rained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Drysleeves said: Cycles, baby, cycles. It all averages out. The Grand Canyon and that giant meteor crater in AZ aren't man made. Don't believe I'd have wanted to be anywhere near this planet when those things happened. this is in wrong thread lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichow7120 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 7 hours ago, oleman said: Politics beware, we should pull the plug on high maintenance areas like The Big Easy and let mother nature reclaim ownership. Missed our chance after Huricane Katrina. I said then the town should have gone then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I remember reading an article about New Orleans several years ago titled something like "Why New Orleans is in the worst location for a city, and why it's necessary to have it there". I don't remember the reasons (had to do with river traffic) but I do recall thinking it made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, Reichow7120 said: Missed our chance after Huricane Katrina. I said then the town should have gone then. I understand parts of nawlins were shut down after Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta88 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Basis getting bad at mid south elevators. Merchandiser in greenville ms told us Thursday barges going out at 60% capacity. Dredging to start soon at ports like Rosedale MS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 Here's the current estimate. Apparently it's topped the first underwater dam. https://www.nola.com/news/environment/when-rainfall-will-drive-back-salt-water-in-the-mississippi-river-is-still-a-guessing/article_920785f2-5f17-11ee-b49a-27165dbcad63.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Is there a fish kill associated with this or do the fish simply move upstream? I understand it sounds like salt water is only in the lower water column but there are of course bottom feeding fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 I haven't heard anything about fish kill. If it was an issue we probably would have. Alot is the fish close to the Gulf are tolerant of brackish water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Minded Farmer Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 5 hours ago, acem said: I haven't heard anything about fish kill. If it was an issue we probably would have. Alot is the fish close to the Gulf are tolerant of brackish water. Can they utilize the water from one of the lakes to flush out the saltwater? That's how it's done in Chicago. Don't know if that's possible for NOLA, but they sure have enough storm water pumps around the city/area. One would think they could figure out how to do something with them to help the situation?? Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 Have you been to south Louisiana? It's flat as a pancake and much of the water except the Mississippi is brackish during times like this.Lake ponchatrain is right by but brackish... Not to mention the volume of water needed is insane. They need 10 inches of run off across the Mississippi basin according to one article. Interestingly very little rain that falls in south Louisiana goes into the Mississippi. It's mostly water from north of Louisiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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