jass1660 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 How about Idaho or Utah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerFixEmUp Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 41 minutes ago, acem said: I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers. There are good dairies in Louisiana and Florida. You just have to adapt. Year round growing season makes north Florida pretty attractive. The salt they used to use was bad enough. Now they use calcium chloride and it's worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 IDABEL OK, in the foot hills of the South Ozarks, lumber is one of their industries. Along the red river area Land is available, and they have surface water, no population centers except DFW. Paris TX is big town in that region. TX has some dairies south of there toward Texarkana. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB98 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Interesting information from Wisconsin Dairy about leading dairy states. Wherever you go you need to be sure to have a buyer. I only have one family member left in the dairy business and he’s a small one man show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 9 hours ago, acem said: I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers. There are good dairies in Louisiana and Florida. You just have to adapt. Year round growing season makes north Florida pretty attractive. When we sold the quote from the one jockey on the cows was to send them to North Florida Holsteins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 10,000 head on 2400 acres. That seems pretty intensive to me. I bet they have a good irrigation system. I've seen a lot of nice looking farms in North Florida. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dinan Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 22 hours ago, sandhiller said: If I had to, I would move about 50' south and build my house into the side of the hill it sits on so the bottom floor was same level as the shop and everything else and I wouldn't have to walk up and down that damn hill. That's about as far away as I would want to move.🤠 Add a walk-out basement!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jworley Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 There’s 440 acres across the road from my house for sale, for $3800. Good groundwater for irrigation, paved road on two sides and it’ll be a long time before suburbia gets out here. It has a about 130 ish acres in crop land 170ish acres of Bermuda grass pasture 60-80ish acres of Bermuda grass hayfields and the rest is low cutover. However, this area wrote the book on hot and humid. Winter isn’t bad but can get more uncomfortable than you would guess, cold spells don’t last long but summer comes early and doesn’t give up easily. It’s in the dark purple part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 49 minutes ago, Alan Dinan said: Add a walk-out basement!! A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋 Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in. Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 India is the worlds largest milk producer and consumer.They may not eat cows but they drink the milk. you could move to India! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike newman Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 3 minutes ago, sandhiller said: A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋 Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in. Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄 ...Would you consider a very tidy 32 Rim Fire Marlin.....????with which to keep the IRS predators at bay ... This for your shootin ' window....... All bark and no bite..... Mike (family rates , also .... ) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 4 minutes ago, mike newman said: ...Would you consider a very tidy 32 Rim Fire Marlin.....????with which to keep the IRS predators at bay ... This for your shootin ' window....... All bark and no bite..... Mike (family rates , also .... ) I think that would make a fine "critter gitter" Mike And the number of rounds available for such an elegant firearm would closely match the number of agents that I suspect could even find me😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike newman Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 24 minutes ago, sandhiller said: I think that would make a fine "critter gitter" Mike And the number of rounds available for such an elegant firearm would closely match the number of agents that I suspect could even find me😉 Sadly , Jeff you are , shall we say ''bang on '' re the fodder for said firearm......... A lot of comments on this ''fun'' topic, talk of Kentucky....as a place to live......The old Cook and I stayed near , or south of Lexington...this when sourcing certain equipment for the Caribbean job I was involved with.... We were there or thereabouts for several days..went to that 1300 odd acres equestrian place ....Great place to spend a day there, but what really impressed us was the ''picture postcard '' farmland ....around that area...Damn , it was beautiful...!!! I remember the old bloke from Elizabeth Town ,,, ( whose name escapes me ...sigh..) was saying there is a huge development for making batteries for those coal powered cars that are all the rage.....and it has consumed hundreds of acres of beautiful farmland.... Bloody criminal when all the infrastructure for ICE vehicles is already in place , around the world..... Kentucky is a little over 104 thousand square kilometers as I recall (??)...and to turn farmland into making bloody battery's for Chinese made coal burners.... should be a hanging offense..... Welcome to the new reality ...for the peasants ..... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 5 hours ago, sandhiller said: A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋 Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in. Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄 How about a conning tower with 360 degree turret traverse? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgriffin856 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Troy just needs to start his own Amish church and he'll be fine. After all most of them live above the law 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny bill o Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 with all the early-on bashing of New York, I disagree. We have markets, water, and consumers. Decent infrastructure. There are several processor expansion projects in the works, in addition to what is already here. NY is #4? in the country for milk produced. Farm inputs are tax exempt. Sure, NYC tries to call the tunes, but you are going to get that everywhere there is a big city in a state. So far, not outright hostile, except for the rabid tree huggers. Again, everywhere. Gov't gets that ag is a big part of upstate. When I sold my cows both times, they went to expanding herds. The second time, to a farm that built a 2000 cow freestall and rotary parlor, about 25 miles away from me. Now milking 2800 with 30k herd average. Compared to some of the dairies in other parts of NY, they are small. Still have 80-200 cow farms, but they are more individual preference. I know, I was one. No idea what land prices are, but usually when anything decent comes up for sale, the big guys are there with their checkbooks. Again, everywhere. I'm in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, western and northern NY are not. You get a ton of snow in Chris's area so there is that. Still, I wouldn't rule out NY just because of the city. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 21 hours ago, acem said: I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers. At least here in the midwest, where we have winter every year, it seems no one is taught how to drive on slick roads. Such as a light right foot. That's the main problem. They often brine the roads a day in advance of a chance of scattered flurries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNY Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 36 minutes ago, ny bill o said: with all the early-on bashing of New York, I disagree. We have markets, water, and consumers. Decent infrastructure. There are several processor expansion projects in the works, in addition to what is already here. NY is #4? in the country for milk produced. Farm inputs are tax exempt. Sure, NYC tries to call the tunes, but you are going to get that everywhere there is a big city in a state. So far, not outright hostile, except for the rabid tree huggers. Again, everywhere. Gov't gets that ag is a big part of upstate. When I sold my cows both times, they went to expanding herds. The second time, to a farm that built a 2000 cow freestall and rotary parlor, about 25 miles away from me. Now milking 2800 with 30k herd average. Compared to some of the dairies in other parts of NY, they are small. Still have 80-200 cow farms, but they are more individual preference. I know, I was one. No idea what land prices are, but usually when anything decent comes up for sale, the big guys are there with their checkbooks. Again, everywhere. I'm in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, western and northern NY are not. You get a ton of snow in Chris's area so there is that. Still, I wouldn't rule out NY just because of the city. I agree with you Bill, NY is not as horrible as some say. Markets, good land, dont have to worry about irrigation, plentiful equipment dealers, lots of recreational opportunities no matter what you like to do. So far they really dont mess with us up here on environmental issues, it is very ag based state outside the urban areas. It really is a beautiful area 9 months out of the year. You learn to deal with the winter. There are people farming here that have come from many other parts of the country so must not be too bad. Too each there own I guess but I have no desire to move anywhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 42 minutes ago, Steve C. said: At least here in the midwest, where we have winter every year, it seems no one is taught how to drive on slick roads. Such as a light right foot. That's the main problem. They often brine the roads a day in advance of a chance of scattered flurries. Worse, they will throw that evil crap down when there is wind and blowing snow, and what should be a dry intersection becomes a snotty slip’n’slide because the blowing snow sticks the to brine and melts, and stops more snow etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 @mike newman & @sandhiller you can reload rimfire cases but you have to be careful. You get/make primer mixture paste. Put a some in the bottom of the case and carefully chuck up in drill press. Spin at high speed to fling primer under rim. Dry primer mixture with moderate heat. A friend did this decades ago with some oddball rimfire cartridge. Worked ok even if the firing pin hit the same spot as before. I can find out more if you like. But that should probably be another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, acem said: @mike newman & @sandhiller you can reload rimfire cases but you have to be careful. You get/make primer mixture paste. Put a some in the bottom of the case and carefully chuck up in drill press. Spin at high speed to fling primer under rim. Dry primer mixture with moderate heat. A friend did this decades ago with some oddball rimfire cartridge. Worked ok even if the firing pin hit the same spot as before. I can find out more if you like. But that should probably be another thread. Very interesting Ace If Mike brings his Marlin and some brass on his next visit to the states we might have to give it a try. My little "Fort Niobrara" will have never been defended so well🤠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 On 9/14/2023 at 8:50 AM, jass1660 said: How about Idaho or Utah? Plants full and the 12 big guys just snag up anyone whom quits so quick. But I wish sonbadly we never expanded here in 1998 when we came to farm. We should of moved to ID then. We still would love to be there but juat never see opportunities. Several 30 to 80k head guys now in SC ID today Neat is 1 Mexican guy was homeless 30 years ago milking for another dairyman new owns 35000 head. Another was a boy from Portugal and moved to ID as a hoof trimmer with 80 cows and now owns prob 65000 and hisbown large milk drying plant with another dairyman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 80,000 head is alot of cows. I think there are round 5000 in all of Arkansas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dinan Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 One dairy farm north of of me, 50-60 miles, was a one man show. He told his 3 daughters that he was going to quit unless they could figure out how to keep it going. They quit their jobs and came back to the farm, built a cheese aging basement, on farm store and are selling yogurt, cheese, ice cream and added a beef herd to sell fresh meat also. I believe that they sell more things from other locals also. They have 15 full time employees now with a 125 head dairy and 80 head of beef. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, TroyDairy said: Plants full and the 12 big guys just snag up anyone whom quits so quick. But I wish sonbadly we never expanded here in 1998 when we came to farm. We should of moved to ID then. We still would love to be there but juat never see opportunities. Several 30 to 80k head guys now in SC ID today Neat is 1 Mexican guy was homeless 30 years ago milking for another dairyman new owns 35000 head. Another was a boy from Portugal and moved to ID as a hoof trimmer with 80 cows and now owns prob 65000 and hisbown large milk drying plant with another dairyman. Those numbers just wobble my mind. When I was in high school about half the farmers in the area milked, from 30 to 50 head. All gone now. Assume 2x a day. Thought I read somewhere there were some that tried/are 3x ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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