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41 minutes ago, acem said:

I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers.

There are good dairies in Louisiana and Florida. You just have to adapt. Year round growing season makes north Florida pretty attractive.

The salt they used to use was bad enough. Now they use calcium chloride and it's  worse. 

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IDABEL OK, in the foot hills of  the South Ozarks, lumber is one of their industries.  Along the red river area Land is available, and they have surface water, no population centers except DFW. Paris TX is big town in that region.  TX has some dairies south of there toward Texarkana.

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9 hours ago, acem said:

I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers.

There are good dairies in Louisiana and Florida. You just have to adapt. Year round growing season makes north Florida pretty attractive.

When we sold the quote from the one jockey on the cows was to send them to North Florida Holsteins 

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22 hours ago, sandhiller said:

If I had to, I would move about 50' south and build my house into the side of the hill it sits on so the bottom floor was same level as the shop and everything else and I wouldn't have to walk up and down that damn hill.

That's about as far away as I would want to move.🤠

Add a walk-out basement!!

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There’s 440 acres across the road from my house for sale, for $3800. Good groundwater for irrigation, paved road on two sides and it’ll be a long time before suburbia gets out here. 
 It has a about 130 ish acres in crop land 170ish acres of Bermuda grass pasture 60-80ish acres of Bermuda grass hayfields and the rest is low cutover.

However, this area wrote the book on hot and humid. Winter isn’t bad but can get more uncomfortable than you would guess, cold spells don’t last long but summer comes early and doesn’t give up easily.

It’s in the dark purple part.

 

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49 minutes ago, Alan Dinan said:

Add a walk-out basement!!

A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. 

Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋

Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in.

Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄

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3 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. 

Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋

Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in.

Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄

...Would you consider a very tidy   32  Rim Fire     Marlin.....????with which to keep the IRS  predators at bay ...  This for your shootin '    window.......  All bark and no bite.....

Mike 

(family rates  , also  ....:)  )

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4 minutes ago, mike newman said:

...Would you consider a very tidy   32  Rim Fire     Marlin.....????with which to keep the IRS  predators at bay ...  This for your shootin '    window.......  All bark and no bite.....

Mike 

(family rates  , also  ....:)  )

I think that would make a fine "critter gitter" Mike

And the number of rounds available for such an elegant firearm would closely match the number of agents that I suspect could even find me😉

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24 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

I think that would make a fine "critter gitter" Mike

And the number of rounds available for such an elegant firearm would closely match the number of agents that I suspect could even find me😉

Sadly   , Jeff you are  , shall we say    ''bang on  ''    re the fodder for said firearm.........

A  lot of comments on this ''fun''   topic, talk of Kentucky....as a place to live......The old Cook and I stayed near , or south of Lexington...this when sourcing certain equipment for the Caribbean job I was involved with.... We were there or thereabouts for several days..went to that 1300 odd acres   equestrian   place ....Great place to spend a day there, but what really impressed us was the ''picture postcard ''    farmland ....around that area...Damn , it was beautiful...!!!

I  remember  the old bloke from Elizabeth   Town ,,, (  whose name escapes  me ...sigh..)  was saying there is a huge development  for making batteries for those coal powered cars that are all the rage.....and it has consumed hundreds of acres of beautiful    farmland.... Bloody criminal when all the infrastructure   for ICE vehicles  is already in place , around the world.....

Kentucky  is a little over 104 thousand   square kilometers as I recall   (??)...and to turn farmland into making bloody battery's for Chinese made   coal burners.... should be a hanging offense.....

Welcome to the new reality ...for the peasants .....

Mike

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5 hours ago, sandhiller said:

A must have for sure with a two hole attached garage for me and the missus. 

Very top room would have a shootin window with a clear view of the hay meadow along the river😋

Got it all planned out in my head for when my ship comes in.

Not sure how big a ship can make it up the Niobrara though 🤔🥺😄

How about a conning tower with 360 degree turret traverse?

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Troy just needs to start his own Amish church and he'll be fine. After all most of them live above the law 🤷‍♂️

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with all the early-on bashing of New York, I disagree. We have markets, water, and consumers. Decent infrastructure. There are several processor expansion projects in the works, in addition to what is already here. NY is #4? in the country for milk produced. Farm inputs are tax exempt. Sure, NYC tries to call the tunes, but you are going to get that everywhere there is a big city in a state. So far, not outright hostile, except for the rabid tree huggers. Again, everywhere. Gov't gets that ag is a big part of upstate.

When I sold my cows both times, they went to expanding herds. The second time, to a farm that built a 2000 cow freestall and rotary parlor, about 25 miles away from me. Now milking 2800 with 30k herd average. Compared to some of the dairies in other parts of NY, they are small. Still have 80-200 cow farms, but they are more individual preference. I know, I was one. 

No idea what land prices are, but usually when anything decent comes up for sale, the big guys are there with their checkbooks. Again, everywhere. I'm in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, western and northern NY are not. You get a ton of snow in Chris's area so there is that. Still, I wouldn't rule out NY just because of the city.

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21 hours ago, acem said:

I don't have a problem with the cold weather y'all get. I have a problem with all the salt y'all use to destroy vehicles. I swear it's a scam by the auto manufacturers.

At least here in the midwest, where we have winter every year, it seems no one is taught how to drive on slick roads.   Such as a light right foot.  That's the main problem.  They often brine the roads a day in advance of a chance of scattered  flurries.

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36 minutes ago, ny bill o said:

with all the early-on bashing of New York, I disagree. We have markets, water, and consumers. Decent infrastructure. There are several processor expansion projects in the works, in addition to what is already here. NY is #4? in the country for milk produced. Farm inputs are tax exempt. Sure, NYC tries to call the tunes, but you are going to get that everywhere there is a big city in a state. So far, not outright hostile, except for the rabid tree huggers. Again, everywhere. Gov't gets that ag is a big part of upstate.

When I sold my cows both times, they went to expanding herds. The second time, to a farm that built a 2000 cow freestall and rotary parlor, about 25 miles away from me. Now milking 2800 with 30k herd average. Compared to some of the dairies in other parts of NY, they are small. Still have 80-200 cow farms, but they are more individual preference. I know, I was one. 

No idea what land prices are, but usually when anything decent comes up for sale, the big guys are there with their checkbooks. Again, everywhere. I'm in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, western and northern NY are not. You get a ton of snow in Chris's area so there is that. Still, I wouldn't rule out NY just because of the city.

I agree with you Bill, NY is not as horrible as some say. Markets, good land, dont have to worry about irrigation, plentiful equipment dealers, lots of recreational opportunities no matter what you like to do.  So far they really dont mess with us up here on environmental issues, it is very ag based state outside the urban areas.  It really is a beautiful area 9 months out of the year. You learn to deal with the winter.  There are people farming here that have come from many other parts of the country so must not be too bad. Too each there own I guess but I have no desire to move anywhere else.

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42 minutes ago, Steve C. said:

At least here in the midwest, where we have winter every year, it seems no one is taught how to drive on slick roads.   Such as a light right foot.  That's the main problem.  They often brine the roads a day in advance of a chance of scattered  flurries.

Worse, they will throw that evil crap down when there is wind and blowing snow, and what should be a dry intersection becomes a snotty slip’n’slide because the blowing snow sticks the to brine and melts, and stops more snow etc etc.  

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@mike newman & @sandhiller  you can reload rimfire cases but you have to be careful. 

You get/make primer mixture paste. Put a some in the bottom of the case and carefully chuck up in drill press. Spin at high speed to fling primer under rim. Dry primer mixture with moderate heat.

A friend did this decades ago with some oddball rimfire cartridge. Worked ok even if the firing pin hit the same spot as before.

I can find out more if you like. But that should probably be another thread.

 

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1 hour ago, acem said:

@mike newman & @sandhiller  you can reload rimfire cases but you have to be careful. 

You get/make primer mixture paste. Put a some in the bottom of the case and carefully chuck up in drill press. Spin at high speed to fling primer under rim. Dry primer mixture with moderate heat.

A friend did this decades ago with some oddball rimfire cartridge. Worked ok even if the firing pin hit the same spot as before.

I can find out more if you like. But that should probably be another thread.

 

Very interesting Ace

If Mike brings his Marlin and some brass on his next visit to the states we might have to give it a try.

My little "Fort Niobrara" will have never been defended so well🤠

 

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On 9/14/2023 at 8:50 AM, jass1660 said:

How about Idaho or Utah?

Plants full and the 12 big guys just snag up anyone whom quits so quick.  But I wish sonbadly we never expanded here in 1998 when we came to farm.  We should of moved to ID then.  We still would love to be there but juat never see opportunities.

 

Several 30 to 80k head guys now in SC ID today   Neat is 1 Mexican guy was homeless 30 years ago milking for another dairyman new owns 35000 head.  Another was a boy from Portugal and moved to ID as a hoof trimmer with 80 cows and now owns prob 65000 and hisbown large milk drying plant with another dairyman.

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One dairy farm north of of me, 50-60 miles, was a one man show. He told his 3 daughters that he was going to quit unless they could figure out how to keep it going. They quit their jobs and came back to the farm, built a cheese aging basement, on farm store and are selling yogurt, cheese, ice cream and added a beef herd to sell fresh meat also. I believe that they sell more things from other locals also. They have 15 full time employees now with a 125 head dairy and 80 head of beef.

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2 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

Plants full and the 12 big guys just snag up anyone whom quits so quick.  But I wish sonbadly we never expanded here in 1998 when we came to farm.  We should of moved to ID then.  We still would love to be there but juat never see opportunities.

 

Several 30 to 80k head guys now in SC ID today   Neat is 1 Mexican guy was homeless 30 years ago milking for another dairyman new owns 35000 head.  Another was a boy from Portugal and moved to ID as a hoof trimmer with 80 cows and now owns prob 65000 and hisbown large milk drying plant with another dairyman.

Those numbers just wobble my mind. 

When I was in high school about half the farmers in the area milked, from 30 to 50 head. 

All gone now. 

 

Assume 2x a day. 

Thought I read somewhere there were some that tried/are 3x ???

 

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