acem Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 They are experimenting with electric roads in Sweden and Europe. They make much more sense than battery cars. I like the concept but it has a long way to go. https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0gcbkjs/why-we-might-soon-drive-cars-on-electrified-roads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 They’re going to let electric vehicles recharge from the roadway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Yes but the whole intent is to use the electric on the road. The batteries would be small compared to current electric cars. The big batteries currently used in cars are a bad idea. They are heavy, using energy to move around. Charging a battery uses more energy than you get back from it. By using the electricity directly from the road you save a lot of energy in numerous ways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Didn't look at article but I'm picturing something like bumper cars at the fair with the gantry pole sparking away up top at night!!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 If it makes sense, we won't do it. Too much money invested and to be made by those backing the current debacle. Tho I must say I find either option highly un necessary and probably highly expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I watched it, I could actually see that perhaps in industrial applications, air ports huge industrial sites, ports perhaps, maybe even theme parks etc. but when something goes wrong with the road, you have suddenly crippled ALL of the vehicles reliant on it. Seems like huge infrastructure that is likely to wear out or become obsolete quickly. Not to mention snow, ice, rain with those “brushes” I realize these are just prototypes, but it looks shaky to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captian Kirk Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Looks cool, I wonder how long of a stretch of road would it take to charge the car? I could see sections of city streets being done to help with gridlock breakdowns. It would have to get to the wireless stages before any highway applications 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forwhldrv Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Where’s all the electricity coming from for this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 25 minutes ago, forwhldrv said: Where’s all the electricity coming from for this. Don’t ask questions. 5 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredT Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 38 minutes ago, forwhldrv said: Where’s all the electricity coming from for this. Don't worry, it's hanging out in the electricity tree waiting to be plucked and it is also free.🙄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captian Kirk Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 52 minutes ago, JaredT said: Don't worry, it's hanging out in the electricity tree waiting to be plucked and it is also free.🙄 The video shows the end user will be charged for the power, so it's not free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB98 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, forwhldrv said: Where’s all the electricity coming from for this. I don’t know how much excess capacity Sweden has in their electricity generation but here’s where they’re at now. Probably need more nuclear power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 It's in the prototype development stages. Lots of changes will occur if it works out. Here's the idea in a nutshell. The car has smaller batteries that enable you to drive around some but not make a trip. This battery would be topped off at home and possibly at work, etc. The major roads and highways would have the power strip that you connect to. This would power your vehicle on the road and possibly top the batteries off. Smaller batteries reduce the weight of the car allowing it to use less energy and taking less resources to build. I don't see this working out in the country anytime soon. But remember the vast majority of people live in cities and suburbs. Driving across town for work, shopping, entertainment, kids activities, etc. They rarely leave the metro. If you've driven in LA or any big city during rush hour you can see how this would impact the environment. Where's the electricity come from? Somewhere else of course! The electric infrastructure must be significantly upgraded for any of this to work. I think advanced nuclear power playing a significant role. Fossil fuels will continue to be a major electric producer for a long time. IMHO YMMV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Seems like a solution looking for a problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfred54 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) 9 hours ago, Steve C. said: Women can do anything men can do, right? Edited September 10 by mrfred54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Steve C. said: Women can do anything men can do, right? According to the news reporter the gun ban does not affect licensed concealed carriers. New mexico is a shal issue state with reciprocity with many states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, MTB98 said: Sweden has an unusual electric generation profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB98 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Norway produces much of their electricity from hydro. Recently they had a negative price for electricity due to heavy rainfall filling their reservoirs. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-free-hydro-electricity-wet-summer-climate-change-oslo/ Sweden is about the size of Arizona with a population of ≈10.5 million with almost 90% of them in urban or metro areas. Their infrastructure needs are much different than a large nation such as the US. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Dave Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I think it makes better sense that stringing power lines above the streets for NEW haha street cars like Kansas City is doing right now, with lots of plans to exspand. I like it Acem, maybe a solar road will follow, we have prototypes go that too, feeding the grid , why not cars. Im picturing a bunch of people in overalls glued their smart phone complaining about technology…… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 hours ago, Steve C. said: Seems like a solution looking for a problem. My architect friend would call it “a bad idea poorly executed” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 hours ago, acem said: Sweden has an unusual electric generation profile. Did the graph says produced? Do they purchase/import any electricity? That’s the math used for California’s success at green energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB98 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 56 minutes ago, AKwelder said: Did the graph says produced? Do they purchase/import any electricity? That’s the math used for California’s success at green energy According to this they are a net exporter of electricity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Sweden and Norway are not typical countries in many aspects. However I do really like the swedish bikini team! I bet @mike newman does too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihfan4life Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 9 hours ago, vtfireman85 said: I watched it, I could actually see that perhaps in industrial applications, air ports huge industrial sites, ports perhaps, maybe even theme parks etc. but when something goes wrong with the road, you have suddenly crippled ALL of the vehicles reliant on it. Seems like huge infrastructure that is likely to wear out or become obsolete quickly. Not to mention snow, ice, rain with those “brushes” I realize these are just prototypes, but it looks shaky to me. Precisely why it would happen… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Here's a couple articles describing difficulties with electric vehicles and charging stations. The npr article follows the us secretary of energy on a road trip with electric vehicles. They have problems... Electric roads could solve most of these problems if they can work it out. https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1187224861/electric-vehicles-evs-cars-chargers-charging-energy-secretary-jennifer-granholm https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-rivian-r1t-launch-edition-yearlong-review-update-13-towing/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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