Uh oh moment

[1566Hog]

No one was hurt. Operator could feel it getting away from him, so he jumped ship before it over turned. Just needed new fenders and new fender brackets. 766 was back hauling chicken manure just a few days after. 
Amazing that it didn’t get the hood or muffler. 

[Dirt_Floor_Poor]

That looks like an awfully big spreader for a 766?

[1566Hog]

Just now, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

That looks like an awfully big spreader for a 766?

It probably is. Especially on the hilly terrain that this farm is on. Although I will say, this is one of the best operators I know. It was a wet load of chicken manure.  It started pushing him, and he knew it was over. He knows he got lucky. 

[searcyfarms]

and i ran over my game camera yest with my tractor and thot i had a bad day sheesh thats scary glad all are ok - i woulda prolly had dirty britches thankfully no one would notice pulling the poop slinger 

[Gearclash]

1 hour ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

That looks like an awfully big spreader for a 766?

Not really.  Pulled a NH 195 fairly often with our 766.  

[FoxrunFarms02]

In my area during harvest time there's usually an article and picture similar to this in the news paper of someone hauling a wagon train that got away from them down hill. Seems like a lot of people don't understand  that just because a tractor can pull something it's a whole different story stopping it.

 

Glad the operator didn't get hurt or killed.

[Ian Beale]

From a different scene down our way -

"Brakes the main thing eh Alf?"

[Rick G.]

I’d like to think that I’d know better than to attempt to pull a loaded spreader of that size on a slope like that. And on a grassy type surface like that, which would most likely be even more slippery than pulling it on dirt.

The same result would probably occur even if a 9, 10, or 1466 were to have been used on a grassy slippery prone surface like that. 

 

[JaredT]

I'm betting that was going down the road at top speed when it all started getting away

[Rick G.]

53 minutes ago, JaredT said:

I'm betting that was going down the road at top speed when it all started getting away

Interesting thought. Might could be. Maybe we will find out?

What say ye 1566Hog? Any details? 

[Gearclash]

2 hours ago, JaredT said:

I'm betting that was going down the road at top speed when it all started getting away

It looks to me like the tractor and spreader were on the grassy slope beside the field.  Couple other things to note -- spreader looks to be about empty, but the gate is still open.  I would conclude that it is likely the spreader was maybe about 2/3 - 3/4 empty and I know from experience that NH spreaders will go light on the hitch when they are getting near empty.  I’m still rather surprised though that a smaller spreader like that would push a full size 66 around that bad.  I was never worried about a 400 bu NH195 behind a 7 or 1066.

[Ihfan4life]

13 hours ago, Gearclash said:

It looks to me like the tractor and spreader were on the grassy slope beside the field.  Couple other things to note -- spreader looks to be about empty, but the gate is still open.  I would conclude that it is likely the spreader was maybe about 2/3 - 3/4 empty and I know from experience that NH spreaders will go light on the hitch when they are getting near empty.  I’m still rather surprised though that a smaller spreader like that would push a full size 66 around that bad.  I was never worried about a 400 bu NH195 behind a 7 or 1066.

Amazing what wet grass will do, once it starts sliding you’re pretty well screwed if you can’t keep it straight. He’s lucky to walk away from it. 

[Jacka]

Weights,I wonder if it had any weight?I know you can never have enough rear end weight on hills.IH tractors in my opinion need rear end weight. They just aren't the same without it.JDs (I owned quite a few) seem more balanced and don't need as much. My tractors all have tires loaded with calcium plus at least one set of wheel weights from my large frame hydros to the 1066s.Thats one thing a 4wd has a advantage over 2wd,they will help hold you back.If it started to get away,he panicked and jumped he was lucky .I had them get away or start to and you have about 2 seconds to make the right decision and usually for me it's one of two. Hammer it,straighten it out and turn up hill if you can.Juice it or push in the clutch and ride it out .Jumping off is very dangerous. 

[Ihfan4life]

1 hour ago, Jacka said:

Weights,I wonder if it had any weight?I know you can never have enough rear end weight on hills.IH tractors in my opinion need rear end weight. They just aren't the same without it.JDs (I owned quite a few) seem more balanced and don't need as much. My tractors all have tires loaded with calcium plus at least one set of wheel weights from my large frame hydros to the 1066s.Thats one thing a 4wd has a advantage over 2wd,they will help hold you back.If it started to get away,he panicked and jumped he was lucky .I had them get away or start to and you have about 2 seconds to make the right decision and usually for me it's one of two. Hammer it,straighten it out and turn up hill if you can.Juice it or push in the clutch and ride it out .Jumping off is very dangerous. 

In this scenario (pictured) weight might’ve helped, but once you start getting pushed with one wheel spinning forward and the other backwards, you’re just holding on for the ride. The last thing I would have done was push the clutch. 
We had one hill where I always took it with an empty wagon when I was chopping or baling. And always used low gear with the brakes applied. Low gear would slow down the push if it occurred and would allow you to safely steer out of it. 
In this case I suspect this was a complete surprise to the operator and he did the only thing that he thought he could- jumped off. He was very lucky to walk away from what could have been a very serious accident.

 

[Jacka]

13 hours ago, Ihfan4life said:

In this scenario (pictured) weight might’ve helped, but once you start getting pushed with one wheel spinning forward and the other backwards, you’re just holding on for the ride. The last thing I would have done was push the clutch. 
We had one hill where I always took it with an empty wagon when I was chopping or baling. And always used low gear with the brakes applied. Low gear would slow down the push if it occurred and would allow you to safely steer out of it. 
In this case I suspect this was a complete surprise to the operator and he did the only thing that he thought he could- jumped off. He was very lucky to walk away from what could have been a very serious accident.

 

I pushed in the  clutch  on my 1066's more than once on manure spreaders,chopping silage etc. Push in the clutch, cut her up hill, it will pull everything straight and ride it out.I got very steep hills,the thing to remember  I always thought was you have to know when you can hold it turning down and to know after its full you have enough power and traction when you have to start turning up.

[801486]

On 9/4/2023 at 10:01 PM, Gearclash said:

It looks to me like the tractor and spreader were on the grassy slope beside the field.  Couple other things to note -- spreader looks to be about empty, but the gate is still open.  I would conclude that it is likely the spreader was maybe about 2/3 - 3/4 empty and I know from experience that NH spreaders will go light on the hitch when they are getting near empty.  I’m still rather surprised though that a smaller spreader like that would push a full size 66 around that bad.  I was never worried about a 400 bu NH195 behind a 7 or 1066.

I'm in the loess hills of western Iowa and a 195 on a 1486 with 1500 lbs of wheel weights would make it scary when it got light on the drawbar, you had to stay on the contour couldn't go uphill or down.  This was on bean stubble.

[Alan Dinan]

Some friends had a 24’ Great Plains conventional drill on a 4-210 White and it ended up in the woods when picked up starting to turn around on the headland. Tractor jackknifed and the drill went straight 

[1256pickett]

On 9/4/2023 at 11:01 PM, Gearclash said:

It looks to me like the tractor and spreader were on the grassy slope beside the field.  Couple other things to note -- spreader looks to be about empty, but the gate is still open.  I would conclude that it is likely the spreader was maybe about 2/3 - 3/4 empty and I know from experience that NH spreaders will go light on the hitch when they are getting near empty.  I’m still rather surprised though that a smaller spreader like that would push a full size 66 around that bad.  I was never worried about a 400 bu NH195 behind a 7 or 1066.

I agree with the likely hood it was partially empty but here’s  a thought. On my spreader when the weight goes over center of the axles the hitch pops up. Could that have been enough to pop out the hitch pin if no safety clip? The tongue then could have caught one tire on the tractor to jackknife it?