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I also found these codes in our store, original bosch, are they the same as what you presented?

2 417 413 101

1 417 413 047

I think they are just not updated with that smaller hole in them, either way I sent the code to the case ih store in my area to see if they have it.

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8 minutes ago, Ionut002 said:

I also found these codes in our store, original bosch, are they the same as what you presented?

2 417 413 101

1 417 413 047

I think they are just not updated with that smaller hole in them, either way I sent the code to the case ih store in my area to see if they have it.

I do not know. The International part numbers are correct. 

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$361 Canadian dollars. Yes, it's expensive.. 

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the 101 is the later bosch part, the caseih is just repackaged bosch part. Typically in the usa that return bolt is about 125-150 from a Bosch pump shop. Cummins number looks to be 3963593, maybe you can find something close under that number. The washers are 3918192. 

By the way, that looks to be a problem too, could very well be the entire issue.

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There is a small bleed orifice in that outlet fitting, so the gauge would goto zero as fuel escapes the orifice

The lift pump is likely worn out -- pretty common for them to fail
plastic and aluminum after all

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1 hour ago, HydroTek said:

There is a small bleed orifice in that outlet fitting, so the gauge would goto zero as fuel escapes the orifice

The lift pump is likely worn out -- pretty common for them to fail
plastic and aluminum after all

He replaced that on page 1

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I will also replace the fuel pump, as well as the valve, so that everything is new, I think that this should definitively solve the problem, first of all, the pressure drops immediately, and it varies a lot on the pressure gauge, as I tighten the return hose, the pressure increases, but the manometer needle keeps going up and down.
Why does he do that? Because of the lift pump?

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The poppet and seat in the valve gets worn. It will sometimes seat properly and sometimes not. The 2366 I repaired had the exact symptoms with a brand new lift pump.

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10 hours ago, Ionut002 said:

Or does it fluctuate like that because of the valve?

The lift pump operates from the camshaft -- so it pulses each time the cam lobe rotates

not all engines used a pressure valve in the return of the injection pump -- some only had an orifice
the lift pump will only make as much pressure as the spring inside has strength -- the camshaft only resets the spring

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Did you give up and put a proper International engine in it? 

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Yea, curious. I had previously ignored this topic for a week because it is called “case 2365”… I just figured it was some junky tractor model with a buzzard on the steering wheel that I had not heard of… 

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Hello, sorry for the delay, I've just finished harvesting everything and until the sunflowers are harvested I'm doing an overhaul, I'll change that valve, I'll change the lifting pump and I also have to change the engine belt.

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No, the engine runs perfectly, I have nothing wrong with it, I will check some bearings, that belt from the engine fan, and change those parts of the fuel system and let's hope it will regain its horsepower.
Excuse me, I don't speak English properly.

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56 minutes ago, Ionut002 said:

No, the engine runs perfectly, I have nothing wrong with it, I will check some bearings, that belt from the engine fan, and change those parts of the fuel system and let's hope it will regain its horsepower.
Excuse me, I don't speak English properly.

Your English is great.

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Hello, I'm back with updates as promised, I changed the lift pump, it made a big difference from 12, 15, psi to about 22 psi and I think the injection pump valve is also bad, but currently up to O new valve goes in, I opened the old valve and extended the spring from it and now I have 27 30 psi.
I think that's a good result, right?
And the pressure now holds, dropping very slowly with the engine off.
I will also give you some pictures of the lift pump piston.

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