planejeff Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 One of our super C's is giving us issues. Once it is started the starter remains engaged. We have changed the starter, switch and wires. The guy at the rebuild shop said it is staying engaged for the lack of a ground. We have installed another ground wire yet it continues. Any ideas? Thanks for any comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Is your starter stock with the pull rod to the switch bolted directly to the starter motor or has it been changed with a solenoid to engage it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planejeff Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 54 minutes ago, Farmall Doctor said: Is your starter stock with the pull rod to the switch bolted directly to the starter motor or has it been changed with a solenoid to engage it? That's has been changed also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Are sure sure the starter pinion is not stuck in the ring gear? Is it possible that it could be 1 tooth off or or some other fitment (mechanical) issue? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroTek Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Farmall Doctor said: Is your starter stock with the pull rod to the switch bolted directly to the starter motor or has it been changed with a solenoid to engage it? 35 minutes ago, planejeff said: That's has been changed also. What has been changed ? The switch or a solenoid , your answer didn't address the question from FD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R190 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Back feed from the ignition circuit? When things are not original without pictures or accurate diagrams it hard to figure out problems with sometimes real creative circuitry. I cannot imagine how lack of a ground could hold a starter engaged. but give some people a roll of wire and some terminals and you see some unique systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planejeff Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 6 hours ago, HydroTek said: What has been changed ? The switch or a solenoid , your answer didn't address the question from FD The ignition switch and solenoid have been changed. The ring gear still looks good no bent or missing teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroTek Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Does that starter have the locking bendix on it ? we sold them aggravating things for some models -- if you roll the gear out it locks, and needs centrifugal force to unlock it So, your lever switch has been changed out for a stud, and a solenoid to operate the starter ? when the starter "sticks" will removing the cable from the starter post make it unstuck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 As things have been converted from original you have to follow the suggestions and tests for that. THEN move on to parts, It has been 20 yrs with decline of USA ,our shop has a terrible time getting parts (and more so that actually meet spec and work) now, if/,when shop tests many items BEFORE install on the bench or opens the plastic,they ARE NOT RETURNABLE. Had a 350, 20 yrs back. always parked in gear,but only in the barn for winter.ANd always unhooked battery at just night. over a month 4-5 x it would be 100-150' feet from where parked,thought some one was popping and playing games. one lunch hour it was still hot enough and moved 20'. with kill key off IH wired to use factory switch to start, the starter was actually turning on and walking away. Took 3 reworking of the input electrics of starter to get spec parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LipRipper3006 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 If the starter is like an H the spinning of the engine will disengage. However, I once had one converted 12v and it stuck, put another H starter in and it worked fine. Took it back and they swore up and down nothing was wrong but I persisted that it wasn't the fault of the tractor/wiring. They ended up replacing the drive with another new one and worked fine since. Just because something is new these days doesn't mean it's good. I have also taken a few other starters back to that place but there's no one else around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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