Ian Beale Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 hours ago, vtfireman85 said: I doubt it honestly, I think we are in a fantasy world right now, I think these mandates are going to get walked back a lot once the real cost and logistical really starts to have a real effect on the right people. we may get there someday, but i don’t honestly believe we are there yet. In amongst the costs - "Repair cost for low speed “fender bender” in Rivian EV Truck: 42,000 USD. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/ent-evs-hidden-costs-man-gets-42000-repair-bill-fender-bender " Via Jo Nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 And just think if you damage the truck off-roading you will be on the hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 And a Tesla I have a feeling insurance is going to sky rocket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 I guess if you want to charge your EV with solar it may take some time to get that roof top system connected if you are in the wrong area Developers now wait four years on average to receive connection approval, prompting many to give up and withdraw from the queue. In one case, energy provider Xcel told a Minnesota customer it would take 15 years to connect a rooftop solar system to the company's grid. Shortly after the government offered tax credits to anyone buying solar panels, a Colorado homeowner named Stacie took out loans to install $30,000 worth of panels on her roof. Nearly six months later, however, those panels sat unused, generating no power. Increased demand driven by the green subsidies, combined with inadequate power grid capacity, has left thousands of green energy projects like Stacie's without power, rendering them useless. "When you put out $30,000, you sign loans, and don't have a working product, it's frustrating," Stacie told a local reporter. "There is no communication." https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/thousands-of-americans-try-to-take-advantage-of-bidens-solar-subsidies-they-cant-connect-to-a-power-grid/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 7 hours ago, Binderoid said: The Silver Spade was electric. Most if not ALL the big shovels/equip 40T + have been ICE/electric '50-89' even ships, at x HP it is cheaper to make the required OUTPUT with electric by/ < 1 distance on demand,vs grid where it cant be stored but sent out far distant, ahead of demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Diesel Doctor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 The internal combustion engine cannot die. The entire supply chain will fall apart if it does. The idiot people so desperately want "Green" that they do not realize that it is incapable of delivering the goods. It is time to "Say, "NO" and save America". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 And maybe there is hope for us https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a43756208/efuel-production-coming-to-texas/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a40901251/climate-neutral-e-fuels-have-a-place-in-our-ev-future/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake19917561 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Well the ford CEO is older than my dad, but he is related to Chris Farley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Man Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 They are building a battery plant less than 4 miles from me, it took 1500 acres out of production and is going to ruin our little community. It's supposed to have 5000 workers when completed. I hope Ferd goes belly up! Lost 3 billion on the electric side last year and projected to lose the same this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Is that E gas going to work in the Farmall F12? Gas is crappy enough and expensive enough already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I’ll just share this little tidbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I think if only EV's are the only vehicles around I am going to buy a horse and buggy and a sleigh for winter travel or or walk just like in the olden days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 18 hours ago, U-C said: I think if only EV's are the only vehicles around I am going to buy a horse and buggy and a sleigh for winter travel or or walk just like in the olden days You won't likely have this problem - "Glaring problem exposed in TikTok after man’s tyre goes flat" https://www.couriermail.com.au/motoring/on-the-road/glaring-problem-exposed-in-tiktok-after-mans-tyre-goes-flat/news-story/fb3b97957a99ebe2a53d09ef4243423e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB98 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Ian Beale said: You won't likely have this problem - "Glaring problem exposed in TikTok after man’s tyre goes flat" https://www.couriermail.com.au/motoring/on-the-road/glaring-problem-exposed-in-tiktok-after-mans-tyre-goes-flat/news-story/fb3b97957a99ebe2a53d09ef4243423e That’s not an EV only thing, about 30% of new vehicles don’t have a spare tire onboard. I know way back in the early 2000s the Toyota Sienna AWD models didn’t come with a spare tire because the spare tire location was taken by a driveshaft so it’s not really a new thing. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tires/some-newer-cars-are-missing-a-spare-tire-a9928775934/ https://carsearchinc.com/what-cars-don-t-have-spare-tires/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcyfarms Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 for the love of pete we have to have spare tires - well maybe not, we will likely need spare shoes because most would soon walk as rely on an EV and the costs associated - i been eating lots of rabbits, snakes, mice, squirrels too, thinking i could evolve into a pair of wings and not have anything to worry about - seems to have worked for eagles n hawks - they used to be worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 FWIW "It’s not about the emissions, it was never about emissions." "Electric Vehicle Illusions No one can really say whether widespread adoption of EVs will cut carbon emissions." https://www.city-journal.org/article/electric-vehicles-and-carbon-emissions Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/05/11/we-dont-need-no-flaming-sparky-cars-110/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 A couple EV makers on the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 maybe Ford should bring back the model T its far more fuel efficient then todays cars maybe change the design a little to make it a little more areo like but still simple as they used to be. Simple is better folks used to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 5 hours ago, U-C said: maybe Ford should bring back the model T its far more fuel efficient then todays cars maybe change the design a little to make it a little more areo like but still simple as they used to be. Simple is better folks used to say The Model T was pretty good but not as good as today's cars. The 21 MPG bandied about is actually 13-21 according to Ford, so probably averages somewhere in the middle. Pretty good for early 20th century! Yeah for simple. No scan tools needed, just a little knowledge and common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 My plain jane 1970 F150 240 6 and a 3 spd got 20 mpg or better loaded or empty. No power anything. Got a 68 later with 302 and power steering was easier to get around with and faster but down around 16-18 mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermpuller Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 You might as well get use to EV , thats where auto makers are going but there will be some gas and diesel power vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 8 hours ago, supermpuller said: You might as well get use to EV , thats where auto makers are going but there will be some gas and diesel power vehicle. Maybe specify the pedals option to be sure of getting somewhere - FWIW “The wind and solar power myth has finally been exposed” https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/05/12/the-wind-and-solar-power-myth-has-finally-been-exposed/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Against the tide and throwing a lifeline? "Newly launched Finnish nuclear plant sees electricity prices plunge by 75 percent" https://rmx.news/article/newly-launched-finnish-nuclear-plant-sees-electricity-prices-plunge-by-75-percent/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/12/2023 at 7:46 AM, supermpuller said: You might as well get use to EV , thats where auto makers are going but there will be some gas and diesel power vehicle. Only if we let them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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