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We gotta Fendt/Massey-Ferguson/Claas dealer couple years ago and he has a 8370 John Deere on the used lineup along with a JD 7220 and the biggest Fendt trac combine along with both heads and numerous other new Fendts, one is 500hp and comes from the factory black, my brother finally semiretired from his CaseIH job where he drove 130 mile round trip daily and he has taken a position up there and is loving it, having to drive seven miles to work he laughs and saids it seem like vacation.  I took pictures on my cellphone and will post up a few pics and they also got a trac Claas combine on the lot used also

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This is the Fendt dealer in Columbia, Kentucky so if your wanting to see 

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  A few Mennonites have Fendt around here but the nearest stocking dealer is quite a ways away.  More of those around Batavia and then down by Syracuse.  I'm not sure who is number 1 in my area but nobody is a runaway in sales compared to the competition. 

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I can believe it.  Fendt tractors almost exclusively pulling the big tanks around here.  Their transport speed doesn't hurt the cause either.

A number of years ago, I had heard of a manure hauler in Central PA who traded his whole fleet of fairly new Deere tractors for Fendts.  Why?  Fuel savings.  The Fendt tractors used about 3 gallons less per hour compared with the comparable Deere tractors.  It was said that the fuel savings paid for the premium price of the Fendts.  It was a number of years ago, but I do remember researching the gallons per hour consumed by the two brands from Nebraska test data and if I recall, Fendt used about 15.5 gph while Deere was around 19 gph.

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2 hours ago, Gearclash said:

Fendt and Massey Ferguson are putting a serious dent in the big straight frame tractor sales in this area.  Big application is liquid manure haulers.

The custom manure haulers around us always used to use JCB tractors because of the higher road speeds. I always wondered about the stopping power of the tractors at that speed with all that weight pushing.

A couple of the custom hay guys around here use Fendt because of the advanced user interface vs "domestic" tractors as well as the road speeds between jobs.

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1 hour ago, Jesse in WI said:

The custom manure haulers around us always used to use JCB tractors because of the higher road speeds. I always wondered about the stopping power of the tractors at that speed with all that weight pushing.

A couple of the custom hay guys around here use Fendt because of the advanced user interface vs "domestic" tractors as well as the road speeds between jobs.

There have been a few brave souls around here that tried the JCBs (there is a JCB dealer not 4 miles from me).  The tractors haven’t caught on, and could be because they were unreliable and  parts could be slow to get.  There are wags that say JCBs are appropriately named as it means Junk, Constantly Broke.  

As far as road speeds -- stopping is not an issue if the implement has brakes integrated into the tractor.  I have a European 2000 era CIH tractor that has a hydraulic implement brake circuit on it.  I have, however, seen the mortal remains of a Fendt tractor that was wrecked when the driver lost control of the rig -- even a Fendt will break the transmission housing under the cab if it crashes hard enough.

As to using Fendts for haying -- the “advanced interface” would probably take me longer to explain to a new operator how to use than teaching them how to run a round baler from scratch.  Since I have a constant turnover of baler operators, I can appreciate the simplicity of the MX Maxxums I have.  Not much to learning how to run them.

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a little off topic Fendt had its start in 1928 with this mower well this is a replica though the real one is in a museum

 

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The Cat dealer here in the Dakotas has pushed a lot of Fendts out in the last couple years. There are a couple big operations west of me that traded fleets of Deere machines in for new Fendts. One operation has had some issues with their Fendt loader tractors with transmission issues.

A couple operations traded Quadtracs in for the big 500HP MFD tractors.....they both ended up getting Quadtracs again. In order to get all the HP to the ground they had to had Metric duals all the way around, so the Fendts were too wide for grain carts and other operations when compared to the Quads. They did like the better fuel economy. IIRC, the engines only run something like 1300 RPM on the big Fendts?

And then there are the Fendt Ideal combines....they have helped to sell many green and red combines around here. One operation bought 3 Ideals with the promise from the dealer that they would do anything/everything possible to make sure the customer had 3 running machines at all times. At certain times they had no less than 6 Ideals there just to keep 3 running. Very trouble-prone machines. This operation ended up buying a New Holland 10.90 from us. The only thing everyone likes about the Ideals is there fast unloading speed.....6 bushels/second. 

The big selling push here for Fendt is the lease program....5 years and "No touch" for the operator. The dealer does ALL the servicing, including oil changes, filters, etc. All the operator has to do is fill them with fuel. 

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I took a drive up the Salinas valley 2 weeks ago.  All vegetables all year 2 ,3, or 4 crops off the same acres with the leafy greens. Last I was there 4 or 5 years green and yellow was the winner by numbers. What really stood out no old H's and M's on pipe trailer, or the old Oliver's. With the clean air rules all really old stuff is gone.

One of the first big yards had 2 rubber tracked Fendt's with 3 or 4 JD of the same size. Very few Cat's anymore, and all I saw were rubber track. The only red was the quad track Case on big scraper to relevel fields. One place there 6 of them all up on a high point to keep away from the flood waters. A lot of blue in the mid size cultivating or harvesting tractors. But just no red in any brand in mid size tractors. Kind of a surprise as the Cat dealer has been strong and has the AGCO dealer for the Massey brand too. And none of the Fendt but the 2 big ones.

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4 minutes ago, ray54 said:

I took a drive up the Salinas valley 2 weeks ago.  All vegetables all year 2 ,3, or 4 crops off the same acres with the leafy greens. Last I was there 4 or 5 years green and yellow was the winner by numbers. What really stood out no old H's and M's on pipe trailer, or the old Oliver's. With the clean air rules all really old stuff is gone.

One of the first big yards had 2 rubber tracked Fendt's with 3 or 4 JD of the same size. Very few Cat's anymore, and all I saw were rubber track. The only red was the quad track Case on big scraper to relevel fields. One place there 6 of them all up on a high point to keep away from the flood waters. A lot of blue in the mid size cultivating or harvesting tractors. But just no red in any brand in mid size tractors. Kind of a surprise as the Cat dealer has been strong and has the AGCO dealer for the Massey brand too. And none of the Fendt but the 2 big ones.

We finally got a Fendt dealer in Montana and its one of our local Agco dealers.  I think some Fendts might being showing up now because our local Cat dealer got out of AG and dropped Challenger.  Course their biggest seller was the 2 track tractors and that was the only place to get them.  But now Agco sells the 2 track tractors as Fendt now and since we have a Fendt dealer now I think some guys might transition to those.  The dealer had one at the local farm show in January and damn, it was a nice unit.  

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So much of who has what comes down to dealer presence, as well as support. Yes, we can and do at one point bleed red, but come on, I have a brother in law, not the brightest star in the sky, loves bobcat, and every week he's hauling one or more of his pieces 85miles one way to fix a "code" that puts them into limp mode, or an oil leak.  It's all a mind set, and what helps you sleep at night, as well as how deep your pockets are. All machines have faults, red, green,orange, or yellow, the people that I hear complain so much are the ones that don't have a clue how the dang machine runs, well alone how to fix it themselves. My hats off to those here repairing their own.  If nothing else trying to , we are the ones I feel can complain if need be 

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7 hours ago, SDman said:

 

The big selling push here for Fendt is the lease program....5 years and "No touch" for the operator. The dealer does ALL the servicing, including oil changes, filters, etc. All the operator has to do is fill them with fuel. 

That’s actually really smart business for the dealerships. On one hand the original lessee never worries about maintenance. On the other hand the dealer can represent the lease returns better knowing full well that the service has been done. There have been more than a couple BTOs where none of the hired help even knew how to run a grease gun, so the lease returns were too rough for the dealer to resell!

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18 hours ago, Gearclash said:

As to using Fendts for haying -- the “advanced interface” would probably take me longer to explain to a new operator how to use than teaching them how to run a round baler from scratch.  Since I have a constant turnover of baler operators, I can appreciate the simplicity of the MX Maxxums I have.  Not much to learning how to run them.

The ones I know personally use them on triple mowers mostly. One button on the screen controls all the hydraulics so the front mower lowers before the rear mowers so they're not mowing hay that's already been cut on the head lands. My buddy who ran it said the screen went out in the middle of a field and he had all he could do to drive and lower the mowers properly in a short amount of time. 

I have also heard the same acronym for JCB.

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23 hours ago, SDman said:

The Cat dealer here in the Dakotas has pushed a lot of Fendts out in the last couple years. There are a couple big operations west of me that traded fleets of Deere machines in for new Fendts. One operation has had some issues with their Fendt loader tractors with transmission issues.

A couple operations traded Quadtracs in for the big 500HP MFD tractors.....they both ended up getting Quadtracs again. In order to get all the HP to the ground they had to had Metric duals all the way around, so the Fendts were too wide for grain carts and other operations when compared to the Quads. They did like the better fuel economy. IIRC, the engines only run something like 1300 RPM on the big Fendts?

And then there are the Fendt Ideal combines....they have helped to sell many green and red combines around here. One operation bought 3 Ideals with the promise from the dealer that they would do anything/everything possible to make sure the customer had 3 running machines at all times. At certain times they had no less than 6 Ideals there just to keep 3 running. Very trouble-prone machines. This operation ended up buying a New Holland 10.90 from us. The only thing everyone likes about the Ideals is there fast unloading speed.....6 bushels/second. 

The big selling push here for Fendt is the lease program....5 years and "No touch" for the operator. The dealer does ALL the servicing, including oil changes, filters, etc. All the operator has to do is fill them with fuel. 

John Deere lease wants to do all the service to. I know my neighbor leases a now 3 year old case ih quad track. His lease is up but no case ih tractor available. They wanted 90,000 a year to release his old tractor. This was up from around 60,000 he was paying. He traded leases to John Deere for a new rubber tire tractor. This lease is costing him 60,000 or around there but his jd tractor isn’t made yet so through JD finance paid off the old tractor he is using that until his new tractor arrives later. 

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 Robbie, they have a big selection of equipment at the E'town store as well, it is on 31W South of Lincoln Parkway less than a mile.

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10 hours ago, dale560 said:

John Deere lease wants to do all the service to. I know my neighbor leases a now 3 year old case ih quad track. His lease is up but no case ih tractor available. They wanted 90,000 a year to release his old tractor. This was up from around 60,000 he was paying. He traded leases to John Deere for a new rubber tire tractor. This lease is costing him 60,000 or around there but his jd tractor isn’t made yet so through JD finance paid off the old tractor he is using that until his new tractor arrives later. 

Times have changed, 10 years ago I leased a CIH 450 $37,000/year for 3 years.  Clearly CIH didn't want their tractor back, 3 years at $17,000/year.  then bought it.

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I've never seen a fendt tractor but I live in cattle and poultry country. I've never seen one when driving through eastern Arkansas either but there could be some.

Round here utility tractors are the norm. Green, orange and blue are most of the good new tractors I  see. Lots of cheap Asian imports too. The Asian tractors seem to have short lifespans...

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51 minutes ago, 806 man said:

Times have changed, 10 years ago I leased a CIH 450 $37,000/year for 3 years.  Clearly CIH didn't want their tractor back, 3 years at $17,000/year.  then bought it.

The local guys who want new quad tracks are talking order now and they will be available in 2025. Or you can buy a used one or two year old and take delivery of it in 2024 maybe if the new one comes in. Have heard it from a few guys looking to add a second 600 hp tractor just because they have had troubles waiting for service during spring. Newer big tractors are scarce.

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On 4/6/2023 at 11:09 AM, Hydro70 said:

Fendt dealer in Columbia, Kentucky

Didn't I read in Farm Equipment dealer mag that they are  "company owned dealerships" maybe wrong on that. 

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Don't see many Fendt tractors here yet. Closest dealer is considered to be somewhat of a jerk. Few years back my brother in law sent in his AC 8050 cause he spun a bearing. They told him he'd have to find a used crank for it because AGCO didn,t make them anymore. So he ask me to search on line for a good/regrindable crank. first place I looked was on AGCO's site. You guessed it! Crank was still available, new from AGCO. Meanwhile the dealer called the BIL and offered to give him a really bad trade deal if he bought someing new in the same size range or larger. Now if the Cat dealer would start carrying them I think with their service you would see more.

2 years after the rebuild the 8050 caught fire and insurance totaled it.

When I contacted AGCO about the stunt that the dealer tried pulling the reply was "he sells a lot of new equipment".

Rick

 

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1 hour ago, acem said:

I've never seen a fendt tractor but I live in cattle and poultry country. I've never seen one when driving through eastern Arkansas either but there could be some.

Round here utility tractors are the norm. Green, orange and blue are most of the good new tractors I  see. Lots of cheap Asian imports too. The Asian tractors seem to have short lifespans...

The very first Fendt I saw was a ~120 hp loader tractor at a farm show.  They had a JD 7410 sitting right next to it with a sign stating it was traded in for a Fendt.  

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