pt756 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Helllo there again, more questions, as i said its been at least 4 years since I took the 350 apart, so I forgot a lot of things, getting close to the end though, painted the small dash where all the gauges go, I think the push button starter switch is in right place, second hole from the right side of tractor as you look over the hood, right next to that there is an empty spot on the outside, not sure what was there, also on the left side I think thats where the choke went maybe? and was the oil pressure gauge in the middle or on the outside? ammeter was never moved, so the oil and temp is what is left, and also what is the small receptacle for on the top of the dash , a small light maybe? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole 815 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Here is a pic of a 450. Should be the same. Choke is far left, fuse holder between that and light switch. Kinda dark to see them. I think cig lighter to the right of push button. Dash light on top, under the hood. Painted white on under side to make it brighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Doctor Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The push button starter switch is in the right place but not installed correctly. The grey colored piece that holds the switch in should be on the back side of the panel, out of site. The push button comes in from the rear of the panel and the grey piece is installed over the switch from the back. The only thing you should see from the front is the rubber push button sticking through the dash. You are not the first to do this and won't be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole 815 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Diesel Doctor said: The push button starter switch is in the right place but not installed correctly. The grey colored piece that holds the switch in should be on the back side of the panel, out of site. The push button comes in from the rear of the panel and the grey piece is installed over the switch from the back. The only thing you should see from the front is the rubber push button sticking through the dash. You are not the first to do this and won't be the last. Guess it was that way in 70's when Dad bought tractor. I've never changed it. Your right thou😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 thanks for picture, so looking at the dash what is on the very left side? i would assume choke? and whats on the very right side? i assume the key switch is on the lower hole on the left side? and i do have the fuse holder its not attached to anything, was it for the lights? before it looked ike it ran up to the resistor by the distributor? really appreciate the help, like i said its been a long time apart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 sorry shoulf of read your post first, i didnt see a cigarette lighter when took apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Doctor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Not to get anal, but to be correct, the push button starter switch should be swapped for the proper key switch. There was even a key switch that had a flip up cover on it to keep the weather out. They had a weird key, like this and was only used in the 300-400 series. This had on/off/start/ in the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, Diesel Doctor said: Not to get anal, but to be correct, the push button starter switch should be swapped for the proper key switch. There was even a key switch that had a flip up cover on it to keep the weather out. They had a weird key, like this and was only used in the 300-400 series. This had on/off/start/ in the key. As you said, this was used on the 300-400 only. This is for a 350. This is where they introduced the separate key and button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWV Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Key switch for a F-350 should be down below gage panel left of center. Different switch from one pictured above. Choke cable on left small hole and lighter if equipped on right. Push in hole cover was used without lighter. Fush holder wire went to L terminal on voltage regulator and then powered the light switch originally. If things are changed power from another source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Doctor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, Matt Kirsch said: As you said, this was used on the 300-400 only. This is a 350. This is where they introduced the separate key and button. I meant 300/400 series, including the 350/450, but now you have me thinking. I thought both used that same key switch, but I have been wrong before and could be again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 so i think i have a one wire alternator , i thought 4 years ago i had it switched cause then there was still the generator still on, the wire from the fuse terminal did seem like it ran up the the white resistor, but when i bought the tractor it was kind of a mess hey everybody appreciate your patience and all the help, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Diesel Doctor said: I meant 300/400 series, including the 350/450, but now you have me thinking. I thought both used that same key switch, but I have been wrong before and could be again. Pretty sure the 350/450 was the introduction of the "universal" key that will start everything up to the last 7788. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 49 minutes ago, Matt Kirsch said: Pretty sure the 350/450 was the introduction of the "universal" key that will start everything up to the last 7788. You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E160BHM Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Diesel Doctor said: Not to get anal, but to be correct, the push button starter switch should be swapped for the proper key switch. There was even a key switch that had a flip up cover on it to keep the weather out. They had a weird key, like this and was only used in the 300-400 series. This had on/off/start/ in the key. Dad had a 300 s/n 2341 and a 400 s/n 2793 both built in December of 1954. The 300 had a key switch with the flip up cover and the 400 had the Delco switch shown above. Both were three position combined start/ run switches. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 on the right side must be a cigarette lighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomH Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 hours ago, pt756 said: on the right side must be a cigarette lighter? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 so instead of the small dash light on top wouldnt the shifting light from and 56 or 66 series look nice in there? I dont smoke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, pt756 said: so instead of the small dash light on top wouldnt the shifting light from and 56 or 66 series look nice in there? I dont smoke! That would work! IH used the same lights used in rear bumpers for liscence plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I have the original keys (with spare) for the F-350 Great Grandpa bought new. They say Briggs and Stratton on them. I remember we talked about this years ago and the universal key started with the 350/450 tractors in 57’ and went until the end. Most of this was stated already. Pics from original literature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 darn now i see that i am missing a piece of the hood where the shifting decal is, now that makes sense why there is that light there, the hood piece keeps it out of the weather, wonder where a person would find that piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/27/2023 at 8:11 AM, Diesel Doctor said: They had a weird key, like this and was only used in the 300-400 series. Allis used that key alot 20 minutes ago, pt756 said: darn now i see that i am missing a piece of the hood where the shifting decal is, now that makes sense why there is that light there, the hood piece keeps it out of the weather, wonder where a person would find that piece? I should have that piece , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 well i found the hood piece we do have a small salvage yard close by, he had a complete side shield where the muffler and air cleaner go thru, and he also had that small dash piece,, only 6 miles from us, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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