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Hey guys. I needed to use my Deere 4610 today. Went to start it. Pushed the key in like normal in the cold and the intake air heater indicated -normal. Then I went to turn the key to start and I heard a snap and everything went dead. Didn't slow like a dead battery. Everything  stopped suddenly. Not just no power to starter. Normally lights come on in the run position regardless whether the machine is running and they're turning on either. Of course my manual shows fuses' but not relays' ID's so I don't know which is the starter. I'd go ahead and try to swap it out if I knew which one it was. I suspect it's the relay because of the snap like a fuse blowing. Checked fuses and they're all good.

So questions:

  1. If starter relay fails, will power to the whole machine be interrupted?
  2. Anyone with a similar model have an idea which one of these would be the starter relay?

 

 

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Sounds like a lost connection to me also . Usually the hardest part is finding where it is 

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Snap makes me think of a poor connection as others have mentioned. Usually at the battery, the main ground on the frame or engine, or battery cable at the starter.  The connection was weak and finally failed with the load of the starter. Not a guarantee but a thought.

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I will echo the above comments. The snap you heard was probably the poor connection or fuse breaking. The problem now is finding the break. Start at battery with a meter or test light. Check for 12 VDC at the battery and work your way toward the starter. 

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8 hours ago, dale560 said:

If the battery  is in front like the 5000 series of tractors. There is a big fusible link or master fuse up there if I remember. Buddy has a 5075 or 65 or some number and it did the same thing on a warm day it was his battery cable up in front.

Something tells me there is a main fuse on the left side of the engine on those. Definitely check the battery cables for clean tight connections.

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1 hour ago, yellowrosefarm said:

Something tells me there is a main fuse on the left side of the engine on those. Definitely check the battery cables for clean tight connections.

I don’t get into the new stuff much anymore. Just do a bit of odd stuff on them. And like you said I am sure there was a big master fuse in the cable but this was next series up.

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1 hour ago, dale560 said:

That is an approved John Deere starting technique.

there was a John Deere dealer next to us and it was hilarious to watch them out there jerking the steering wheels in the cold LMAO

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