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...not the answer you want   Wisconsin Ron..but down under ..out in the boonies....''large animal'' vets   are thin on the ground.... in fact if one has a crook rising 1 yr calf, for example,   the economics of calling out the vet , is questionable....but our MPI   are throwing out more rules and regulations...stuff that must have been   spawned in some socialist enclave...

A lot of the vets are getting a handsome living from tending to the over nourished   females, ''lap dogs '' and their pu...   ah,   cats.....

The vets seem happy enough to come out preg testing etc...but that is a scheduled task...and they do not come cheap......

Mike

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No surprise but all clinics are large animal here.

They do companion animal also.

There is a clinic in every town of any size and Valentine has three plus more vets doing AI and embryo.

Plenty of vet techs also.

Making more meds scrip helps the vets as you can't buy from the the feed store without a vet written script for it.

We got more veterinarians than people Drs because we have more cows than people 😄🤠

So to answer your question, yes, probably regional.

 

 

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Part of the problem is the vet school racket. They only allow so many into the program and only a few universities are allowed to train vs doctors or nurses.

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We have enough large animal vets in sw Wisconsin right now. I have personally used two different multi-vet services, as well as two one-vet outfits. They all do basic small animal work like vaccinations and castration, but the multi-vet services have facilities for all the “city folk” services as I would call them. The services that many of us who grew up on the farm would never use. But those services are quite profitable.

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I cannot contribute directly, but I read a book written by a large animal vet in Maine, I hadn't considered it to be such a physically demanding, intense and potentially dangerous job, but it certainly seems to be. Gives me a whole new level of respect for them. Book Is called " While You're Here, Doc" Bradford B, Brown, it is a collection of short stories, so perfect for someone like me with short attention span.

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Another interesting trend is that it is mostly women attending vet schools. 
25 years ago you couldn’t hardly find a woman vet. Now there isn’t hardly anyone graduating that is a male. I’m sure that the soccer moms house cat is better cared for by a woman vet too. These small animal vets make big money!

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Major shortage of veterinarians here also. We are very lucky in our immediate area, but overall situation is not good. Practices are closing and the focus is more and more on small animals. Regulations are also making things more complicated. Most producers are very knowledgeable about medications and what is needed to treat animals in their herds, but can no longer buy without a prescription and the required vet check up to tell them in many cases what they already know.

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My brother is a veterinarian in Connecticut. He is the only large animal Doctor in a clinic of 4, and I think he’s maybe the only one around Hartford? He tells stories about how poor the facilities are at most farms. 
Here, 9 times out of ten we haul a sick critter into the clinic. There he does mainly house calls. 
We have a number of Vets, but you need to be cautious about who you use for what. I am fairly well versed with shipping cattle across state lines and what is required.  The local clinic, not so much. 

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26 minutes ago, tractorholic said:

Another interesting trend is that it is mostly women attending vet schools. 
25 years ago you couldn’t hardly find a woman vet. Now there isn’t hardly anyone graduating that is a male. I’m sure that the soccer moms house cat is better cared for by a woman vet too. These small animal vets make big money!

We took a calf to Purdue University vet school for a surgery. All of the attending vet students were women.

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When I started out at Iowa State my major was pre-vet.  My dream was to be a large animal veterinarian.  I've always done well in school but classes were tough.  At the time you needed a very high GPA to be accepted into the vet. school at ISU.  Also at the time there were way more applying than they could accept, and they were taking more women than men.  I decided to change majors in my sophomore year as I didn't want to go through 4 years and not be accepted to vet. school.

We have a few large animal vets in my area but they are in their 60's.  I really like both of these guys but when I see the toll their job has taken on their bodies, and the very little time they have to themselves/their families, I think I made the right choice.  It seems most that go to vet. school now are getting into the companion animal clinics.  And I can see why, better money, easier work, and better hours.

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We have two vets in my county. Both over 60, one has cancer, both independent mixed practice (almost all companion animal but will work on your large animal if you bring them in). 

My daughter was pre vet animal science in undergrad college. She said all the vet students are white females who want to work with pets. She wanted mixed practice. She didn't quite have a  4 point average so she didn't get in. Applied for law school (food and ag law) and got a scholarship...

It's hard to get a large animal vet to visit a farm here.

The purpose of the fda regulations requiring prescriptions for antibiotics is to eliminate their use. The poultry industry round here doesn't use antibiotics anymore. If the chickens or turkeys get sick they just die. They used to medicate them but everything is "no antibiotics, ever". It's not science based, it's emotional based.

Thx-Ace 

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16 minutes ago, acem said:

We have two vets in my county. Both over 60, one has cancer, both independent mixed practice (almost all companion animal but will work on your large animal if you bring them in). 

My daughter was pre vet animal science in undergrad college. She said all the vet students are white females who want to work with pets. She wanted mixed practice. She didn't quite have a  4 point average so she didn't get in. Applied for law school (food and ag law) and got a scholarship...

It's hard to get a large animal vet to visit a farm here.

The purpose of the fda regulations requiring prescriptions for antibiotics is to eliminate their use. The poultry industry round here doesn't use antibiotics anymore. If the chickens or turkeys get sick they just die. They used to medicate them but everything is "no antibiotics, ever". It's not science based, it's emotional based.

Thx-Ace 

Don't take this the wrong way....I'm not in favor of additional government regulations.  But I don't think the VFD (veterinary feed directive) was intended to eliminate antibiotics.  I think the intent was to prevent their overuse.  As an example many pork producers just use antibiotics in their nursery rations for every group, sick or not.  But in typical government fashion the VFD is only really affecting the individual livestock producers.  The large pork producers have their own vets who just write a VFD and nothing has really changed.

The ABF (antibiotic free) craze in poultry you describe isn't really becuase of FDA regulations.  I think this is just to take advantage of a marketing opportunity.  Many people are willing to pay extra for Non-GMO and ABF chicken.  Not me, but I think many are.

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Regional and in cycles. Right now we are pretty good shape. Not great but good. 8-10 years ago we were in bad shape. There is always that temptation to follow the money and go small animals. The vet I use now is a friends daughter. Maybe 4-5 years out of vet school. She works for another vet in his small animal clinic a few days a week and does large animals out of her truck on the side. We don’t have any large animal clinics. Some of the small clinics have a pen that might get used once a year for large animals. The last 3-4 vets I have used are all women and have done good job. The big problem I hear from them is the 3 am call to pull a calf that should have been a 7 pm call the night before and that’s the only time that customer will call them all year. I have gotten better at calling early but they have all told me I’m one they will get out of bed for because I am a regular customer. 
I think they tried to sell the vfd and prescription thing as a cut back on antibiotics but eliminate would be acceptable in their minds. The vets themselves are mixed from what I’ve heard. They want to hear from customers more than once a year at 3 am but feel they are going to be overworked with paperwork. 

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Been lucky in our area, a husband and wife team bought the clinic from the guy retiring, 30-35 years ago. They were a couple years out of vet school and had worked for him. She’s a little gal, great with cattle, he does the hogs. They both do farm visits and work in office with pets. Usually have 2-3 more vets in office and over the years 2 of the vets quit working for them and started their own practices. So we have options, but I have stayed with the original husband and wife. 

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My Sister went to Iowa State for large animal Veterinarian.  She dropped out of vet school when She decided that large animal vet would be too hard on her body after her near fatal car accident 3 years before.  Small animal vet would have been okay,  but dealing with the owners did not appeal to her.  So, She went to work for the Federal government instead.   She has spent nearly her entire career in the Social security division.

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There are about 30 vets in my area (maybe 25-mile radius), around 25 for pets and I think 1 for farm animals. The others are found where there are 2 things; money and horses.

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9 minutes ago, TomH said:

There are about 30 vets in my area (maybe 25-mile radius), around 25 for pets and I think 1 for farm animals. The others are found where there are 2 things; money and horses.

Most of the time those 2 don’t go together. 

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1 hour ago, Lazy WP said:

Most of the time those 2 don’t go together. 

I was thinking the same thing. Rubber checks and horses are common enough around here 

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We are okay here.  There are a few options.  Both vets that I have worked with are women under 40.  My vet is fabulous.   Grew up on a dairy farm and is still involved with said farm.  I can call or text her anytime.  Last we spoke about the antibiotic over the counter ban she felt that there is antibiotic abuse in the backyard animal crowd.  She is one of us so i believe what she says.  She will leave us what we need or provide a script.  Not worried about it at this point. 

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24 minutes ago, Reichow7120 said:

I was thinking the same thing. Rubber checks and horses are common enough around here 

I am referring to the showing, fox hunting and racing types. More $ than god.....

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1 minute ago, TomH said:

I am referring to the showing, fox hunting and racing types. More $ than god.....

Around here their checks are still rubber. Have to look like a million bucks with fancy trucks and trailers and everything else. Paying the hay guy here becomes very low priority. 

Dealt with enough to know. 

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