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Neighbor has a 504 row-crop diesel with a wide front. Hopefully I can own it down the road. 

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got one of those. Its done different jobs on the farm.

Put a roll bar on it after I bought it.

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A friend used it at a plow day.

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...and I agree with RF about the sloooow reverse. It would make a terrible loader tractor.

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First photo is of my father’s 504 the day before his auction in 2007. He got $3400.00 for it.

That photo from my profile is of my brother and I in 1966, a year after my father bought it. Pulling a John Deere “swath fluffer” in a Timothy field. Brother Jim is driving and I’m hanging on the side. In the days before farm safety training.

The second picture was sent to me from the current owner as of 2019 when I was able to find the tractor through the dealer that bought it at the auction with hopes that I might be able to buy it back from him. He said he’d have to get $9000.00 for it.End of story.

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Not to disrupt the thread, but there's a guy around here with a 504 for sale. WFE, ta works, pretty clean, and priced right. I'm fairly interested in it to replace my 300. A lot of the old-timers tell me they're sorta gutless, especially when it comes to tillage. Is that true? Would it stack up to my 300? I figure here is a good place to ask since most of y'all posting actually own them.

Mac

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26 minutes ago, Rusty_Farmer said:

504.............. the super slow reverse , extra super 'C'........I never really cared for this model.     There ,I said it .

Yeah but they are nimble and handy as can be for some jobs. 

 

5 minutes ago, MacAR said:

A lot of the old-timers tell me they're sorta gutless, 

They have a smaller higher speed engine. Limited lugging ability. If it loses RPM it's done. 

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Bought this one last spring as a running when parked.   Had a loader on when I got it.    Got it going and my son tractor pulled with it for his first time.   Added the fenders for safety for pulling.  Sold it to fund some other projects.  

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Old family photos of my grandfathers 504 Utility.  It was traded on a new 684 w/2250 loader in the early 80's.  

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2 hours ago, John Rowehl said:

He said he’d have to get $9000.00 for it

9000 for a 504? I mean it looks like he did some work to it since getting it but still, seems a bit high for that tractor.

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4 minutes ago, IHhogfarmer said:

9000 for a 504? I mean it looks like he did some work to it since getting it but still, seems a bit high for that tractor.

Or it could mean he is not in a hurry to sell it.  Except for family heirlooms everything I own is for sale.  Most of my stuff would take 3-4 times the actual value of it to pry it out of mine hands but they are for sale.  

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....we have two Farmall Diesels....and one Standard   Diesel 504's..plus a slew of carcases  and general parts brought from an old Plymouth Bretheren   farmer...whose sons   wanted    Green tractors...thus the boys set out to wreck the several Farmalls and Standards the old bloke had....They succeeded..not very subtle...but we got a bunch of stuff  ..for very reasonable dollars

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6 hours ago, IHhogfarmer said:

9000 for a 504? I mean it looks like he did some work to it since getting it but still, seems a bit high for that tractor.

 

6 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

Or it could mean he is not in a hurry to sell it.  Except for family heirlooms everything I own is for sale.  Most of my stuff would take 3-4 times the actual value of it to pry it out of mine hands but they are for sale.  

He was the second owner since the dealer bought it. The first one “restored” it and then resold it.  Before I called about it I was informed that he wasn’t interested in selling it but “would talk to me”. In conversation he stated he was thinking of buying a Kubota and might therefore be willing to sell it…….at that price. So, yes, he wasn’t in a hurry to sell it. I saw no point in trying to even begin negotiating.

After that, at my request he sent the photos. Here’s the second one. Take a look. Same worn out rear tires, corrosion at the valve stems. Sheet metal doesn’t look too bad but the rest of the paint job looks like the kind that some people do the day before they auction it off. 

There is something to be said about sentimental value. But as the saying goes, “I may not be too smart but I’m not a complete idiot.”

 

 

 

 

 

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Growing up, we had a row crop and a utility 504, both diesels. They replaced a 240 and Farmall A when us boys got old enough to be in the big back fields without dad watching over our shoulder all the time. We were farming 285 acres of corn, soybeans, and hay. We had dairy herd along with pigs, and a few chickens. Before the A came along, dad was trying to farm all this with just 1 H, bought in 1949. That tractor was around here, still in use up into the 90's. 

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504s around here had a well-earned reputation for the fan to come loose and shred the radiator, due to the extra-long distance between the fan and the hub, creating more twist on the bearing and causing failure. 

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11 hours ago, 12_Guy said:

They have a smaller higher speed engine. Limited lugging ability. If it loses RPM it's done. 

Thanks, I think I'll pass for now. Lots of beautiful tractors in this thread, I really enjoy the tractor of the week threads. 

Mac

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When I was young my Grandpa had an International 504 with 2000 loader that was used for cleaning cattle lots and the open front hog buildings.  As stated the reverse was very slow, my Farmall 340 is just as bad.  I'm surprised that the "Fast Reverser" wasn't a more popular option on the Internationals used primarily as loader tractors.  I wasn't even aware there was such an option until I started collecting literature and saw it in a owners manual.

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21 minutes ago, IH Forever said:

I'm surprised that the "Fast Reverser" wasn't a more popular option on the Internationals used primarily as loader tractors

Same here; my 340u has the fast reverser and it's the finest thing. Really makes it a handy tractor. 

Mac

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@nepoweshiekfarmalls is that second pic your 504 and #9 rake? If I someday own the neighbors I think it will be a great tractor for my #9 rake. 
 

How do you know if one has the fast reverser? Could it be indicated by the serial tag?

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57 minutes ago, IHhogfarmer said:

@nepoweshiekfarmalls is that second pic your 504 and #9 rake? If I someday own the neighbors I think it will be a great tractor for my #9 rake. 
 

How do you know if one has the fast reverser? Could it be indicated by the serial tag?

The 504 and #9 rake belong to a friend of mine from southern Iowa.  He likes the combo for the task.

 

I will check and see if fast reverse is listed in the parts book on the serial number suffix index.

 

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