cjf711 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 how much Torque is foot pounds (distance vector x mass vector). how much Work is pound feet (Force x distance) I just googled this as i have never really used pound feet, anything for calculation for design is foot pounds from what ive done. But i almost always am using torques not calculating "work" You would torque a bolt to foot pounds, but an engine providing work would be stated in pound feet. I learned something today! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, hillman said: Its ft/lbs 'til death for me give me a 70 Chevelle with a 454 cubic inch internal combustion engine with 500 ft/lbs of torque I am am happy .whatever 454 is in litres does not matter to me 7.4 liter .... I have an 81 dually drivetrain yet 454, turbo 400 .456 gears front and back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 23 minutes ago, bitty said: 7.4 liter .... I have an 81 dually drivetrain yet 454, turbo 400 .456 gears front and back I think everyone should have at least one pickup that will pull a barn off its foundation😄 Mine is an '82 with 4sp🤠 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Jeff as I recall that happened at a bush party in 82, not a barn but a stout old farmhouse 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, sandhiller said: I think everyone should have at least one pickup that will pull a barn off its foundation😄 Mine is an '82 with 4sp🤠 18 ram 5500 cummins aisain 6 speed 4.89 gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, bitty said: 7.4 liter .... I have an 81 dually drivetrain yet 454, turbo 400 .456 gears front and back wonder how many litres per 100 km ? maybe Farmall Dr knows🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superih Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, cjf711 said: how much Torque is foot pounds (distance vector x mass vector). how much Work is pound feet (Force x distance) I just googled this as i have never really used pound feet, anything for calculation for design is foot pounds from what ive done. But i almost always am using torques not calculating "work" You would torque a bolt to foot pounds, but an engine providing work would be stated in pound feet. I learned something today! Work is a measure of force over time, such as horse power, lb feet is just the force so I don't know how anyone could call that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes806 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 When I read where someone rode or drove 5k that day. I wonder what the heck how did they drive 5.000 miles .. Or when they say 5km what the heck is that 5 inchs. It has this old feller wondering what goings on. Or when you go to buy a car or truck and they say 15k is that the same as $ 15.000.. How much harder is it to say 15 thousand then 15k. I thought this was oh Never Mind. Or when I go to a parts store and tell them I a part for 1985 Ford f250 with a 302 engine they look at you like your dumb. I know what a 302 . Guess i' m to old to learn it all and set in my ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 For engine displacement large cu in, for small cc, it bugs me on engines also as I think litre isn't a fine enough measurement, I think back to the SCCA TransAm rules of 5L maximum displacement sounds pretty boring which it was not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, hillman said: wonder how many litres per 100 km ? maybe Farmall Dr knows🤣🤣 It had always got 10 mpg loaded or empty 5 hours ago, sandhiller said: I think everyone should have at least one pickup that will pull a barn off its foundation😄 Mine is an '82 with 4sp🤠 Ran the same empty or 3 ton on the bed .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, hardtail said: For engine displacement large cu in, for small cc, it bugs me on engines also as I think litre isn't a fine enough measurement Princess Auto small engines are listed in CCs. not hp.that tells me nothing if I need 10 hp 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes806 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 7 minutes ago, hillman said: Princess Auto small engines are listed in CCs. not hp.that tells me nothing if I need 10 hp I bought another zero turn mower last summer and the dealer told me it had this something cc motor on it. I told them that don't mean nothing to me and unless it had a 27 horsepower engine on it or bigger I didn't want it. Told me it was 27hp hope he told me right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjf711 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, superih said: Work is a measure of force over time, such as horse power, lb feet is just the force so I don't know how anyone could call that work? Work does not have time in the equation. Power is where time comes in. Horsepower is Work/time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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superih Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, cjf711 said: Work does not have time in the equation. Power is where time comes in. Horsepower is Work/time Okay that makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 15 hours ago, cjf711 said: Work does not have time in the equation. Power is where time comes in. Horsepower is Work/time I looked in an old Motors book and it has lb/ft listed, I virtually had all the GM specs memorized in high school and I just cannot read or say it. Just spec'd out a new Peterbilt 1 year ago. same thing I probably make a lot of people think " why" does he talk like Jed Clampett.? I can't help myself, but I never use "k" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Ok here’s one that really threw me. I was hired to change an engine in a fairly modern JCB backhoe. ( never again!!). The JCB dealer said that they wanted to send one of their techs down to “flash it”. I figured that meant they were going to put a timing light on it. So we started it, ran it, and said he was leaving… I said “ but I was told that you had to come down to flash it” … he said “yea, we ran it”. We were both confused and he left. Then I heard on one of those fancy car shows that” flash it” means to “start it”??! How does that make sense? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 flash ? new one on me too How about citiot radio personalities saying " champing at the bit"? champing? what is that? and they obviously don't know what a bit is or what the phrase actually means🤓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 30 minutes ago, hillman said: flash ? new one on me too How about citiot radio personalities saying " champing at the bit"? champing? what is that? and they obviously don't know what a bit is or what the phrase actually means🤓 That's like calling Jacinda "donkey champers". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsaIHCs Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Farmall Doctor said: Ok here’s one that really threw me. I was hired to change an engine in a fairly modern JCB backhoe. ( never again!!). The JCB dealer said that they wanted to send one of their techs down to “flash it”. I figured that meant they were going to put a timing light on it. So we started it, ran it, and said he was leaving… I said “ but I was told that you had to come down to flash it” … he said “yea, we ran it”. We were both confused and he left. Then I heard on one of those fancy car shows that” flash it” means to “start it”??! How does that make sense? "Flash it" refers to "reflashing" or reprogramming the computer. Usually setting variant coding and installing any software updates available. I use a tablet and a vehicle communication interface (dongle), but some vehicles/equipment may have some on board programming capabilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just gonna toss a couple of grenades All the standard bearings in your antique Farmalls and everything else since -ever-, is a metric standard. Also torque is cumutative, so it doesn't matter. Whether 100 pound-feet or foot-pounds, or pounds-feet, or whatever, it's literally mathematically and physically the same. Someone mentioned 'n' pounds on a one foot lever arm. It's the exact same as a one pound force on an 'n' foot lever arm. The the fundamental premise of leverage. Kinda scary of someone doesn't grasp that fairly instinctively. Mils are milli-inches. The exact same English (Latin) language prefix as is used to create the word millimeters. It's archaic and uncommon, but it's a thing. It's as goofy (and lazy) as saying thou'. If any of you say thou' for thousandths, remember that's like them danged kids and their leet speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I am shooting myself in the foot with this link . But I will always say ft/lbs. too old to change . I hear lb/ft a lot more recently this will hurt some ppl's brain. I won't let it hurt mine. I don't care https://www.enginelabs.com/news/torque-talk-pound-feet-foot-pounds-one/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 hours ago, lotsaIHCs said: "Flash it" refers to "reflashing" or reprogramming the computer. Usually setting variant coding and installing any software updates available. I use a tablet and a vehicle communication interface (dongle), but some vehicles/equipment may have some on board programming capabilities. flashing is when a girl lifts up her shirt😲 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Plow Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 In heating and cooling K = M...........BTU's and Standard Cubic Feet use the old Roman Numeral "M" for 1000.......so 1000 BTUs = 1MBTU or 1,000,000 BTU's = 1 MMBTU........ Have customers start mixing abbreviations for 1000 in that would and everything goes upside down quickly!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, lotsaIHCs said: "Flash it" refers to "reflashing" or reprogramming the computer. Usually setting variant coding and installing any software updates available. I use a tablet and a vehicle communication interface (dongle), but some vehicles/equipment may have some on board programming capabilities. Except this unit didn’t have any computers on it…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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