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Thought I would post a couple of pics of my weight bracket on the 3pt hitch.  
First is weight on tractor. Second is weight bracket and weights. Third is adapter bracket. Last is the trailer mover hitch I attach the whole thing to.

It was a process. I started with the trailer spotter hitch. It has a gooseneck ball and two 2” receivers. Next I made the weight bracket and would hang the weights on individually. I finally got tired of handling the weights and cut the receiver inserts off of the weight bracket and made the adapter so that all I have to do is install the adapter and then pick up the weight pack quick hitch style. It works well for me here’s hoping it helps someone else.

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Sorry that last three pics need rotated. 

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1 hour ago, 12_Guy said:

Thought I would post a couple of pics of my weight bracket on the 3pt hitch.  
First is weight on tractor. Second is weight bracket and weights. Third is adapter bracket. Last is the trailer mover hitch I attach the whole thing to.

It was a process. I started with the trailer spotter hitch. It has a gooseneck ball and two 2” receivers. Next I made the weight bracket and would hang the weights on individually. I finally got tired of handling the weights and cut the receiver inserts off of the weight bracket and made the adapter so that all I have to do is install the adapter and then pick up the weight pack quick hitch style. It works well for me here’s hoping it helps someone else.

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Sorry that last three pics need rotated. 

Very slick!

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4 hours ago, acem said:

The loader probably cost more than the tractor is worth!

You have to look at it the other way. The loader would double the value of the tractor. That way it sounds like your making money on it. 

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While we are on the subject.

1486.

20.8x38 tires loaded.

Still need chains.

Think I have enough room barely with tight chains under the fenders, won't drive to fast.

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But I am assuming the steps got pushed back towards the tires.

Can I very carefully with the hydro pull them back forward?

Or am I risking breaking something?

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I will be damn careful and go really slow.

 

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37 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

While we are on the subject.

1486.

20.8x38 tires loaded.

Still need chains.

Think I have enough room barely with tight chains under the fenders, won't drive to fast.

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But I am assuming the steps got pushed back towards the tires.

Can I very carefully with the hydro pull them back forward?

Or am I risking breaking something?

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I will be damn careful and go really slow.

 

I have taken a chain from the steps and wrap it half height around the front tire and hook snug to the spindle. Then steer the wheel until the step is straight again. Works best on a MFD as the chain can simply be hooked on the waffle wheel. Had to straighten out the steps on the maxxum numerous times like this years ago 

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A come along to the front axle would work. Anything slow and steady including the hydro. You may have to pound rearward on the middle step while pulling forward on the bottom. This is why I would recommend a come along so you can watch closely. 

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4 hours ago, sandhiller said:

While we are on the subject.

1486.

20.8x38 tires loaded.

Still need chains.

Think I have enough room barely with tight chains under the fenders, won't drive to fast.

IMG_20230123_090853026.thumb.jpg.273f72ebd28443cd5305f0b5237e2741.jpg

But I am assuming the steps got pushed back towards the tires.

Can I very carefully with the hydro pull them back forward?

Or am I risking breaking something?

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I will be damn careful and go really slow.

 

I’ve used a chain and a lever type chain come a long to the front axle tube to pull a few tractor steps back into place. Found it works well and is a very controlled method as to not do any damage 

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OK, thanks guys, not sure why I thought I had to get another tractor involved. 

Tire/steering, come a long or maybe even fence stretchers. 

Will give it a go!

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45 minutes ago, DT Fan said:

One of these days I'm going to get a picture of @nepoweshiekfarmalls boss's loader tractor. That will illustrate how a properly ballasted loader tractor looks! Maybe I'll run over there on the way to the farm, then if said machine is close to the building.

I’ve seen that thing!  Although I don’t know how it is still together, as many weights as it has on it (paraphrasing a post from a year or so ago, if ya know ya know)

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1 hour ago, ihrondiesel said:

I’ve seen that thing!  Although I don’t know how it is still together, as many weights as it has on it (paraphrasing a post from a year or so ago, if ya know ya know)

Made it through the fog to Colfax. Talked to Aaron a bit. Then the boss. Benny said the top two are jd 500's, bottom two he thought might be IH of some sort, 1500 a piece! Only four weights on it! Would have sworn there were more, probably just because of the size of the pile. And, the rears are full of fluid! 18.4X28's I think, could be 26's, either way, probably another 1500 lbs! He's got this thing rigged up with all the stuff he needs to remove parts.

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I carry most of my ballast in the middle.....mostly Angus and snickers for a source of origin.🤔

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22 hours ago, Alan Dinan said:

Jeff, here is the answer to all of your winter snow/ice problems!! Just get a lawnmower like this and put a spear on front and back. The bale in front will act as the heat houser and blade snow and ice at the same time 

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Would just sitting on this equal ballast? You know, "does this tractor make my a$$ look big?"

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1 hour ago, iowaboy1965 said:

I carry most of my ballast in the middle.....mostly Angus and snickers for a source of origin.🤔

Around here we would say you winter well. 

 

Me too😄

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So if you got a loader on a 4366 and added fluid to all 4 30.5x32 tires I think you'd have enough weight and traction!

Seriously though. You can get bale forks that carry two or three round bales instead of one. That would add alot of weight and cut down to the number of trips!

 

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1 hour ago, acem said:

So if you got a loader on a 4366 and added fluid to all 4 30.5x32 tires I think you'd have enough weight and traction!

Seriously though. You can get bale forks that carry two or three round bales instead of one. That would add alot of weight and cut down to the number of trips!

 

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Make it a bear to get into corrals with. 

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17 minutes ago, Lazy WP said:

Make it a bear to get into corrals with. 

Sounds like a good reason to build bigger corrals. 

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2 hours ago, acem said:

So if you got a loader on a 4366 and added fluid to all 4 30.5x32 tires I think you'd have enough weight and traction!

Seriously though. You can get bale forks that carry two or three round bales instead of one. That would add alot of weight and cut down to the number of trips!

 

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Gotta be careful with that. Guy was telling a story at the state fair one year about a friend of his that made a 2 bale carrier and rolled the tractor going around a corner and killed him.  I was in Jr high school maybe at the time so late 70s early 80s. Today's tractors with duals and on the bigger side might be ok. But too small a tractor could be bad news.

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Dt fan’s picture got me thinking about this, but I could only find a video, if I can post that right. I don’t know the whole story but this comes out of Rochester ny. They have sidewalk snowplows (I assume independent contractor). Most all farmall M, H, supers, 300, 400, etc even a 460 or 560. They sold 26 of them at online auction year or two ago that I thought was a going out of business sale but I saw a video from last month of them running so must have had more. Anyway all of them were filled with calcium, I think about four sets of wheel weight on each side plus what ever the could stack on the drawbars for more weight. 

I wanted to buy one of them at the auction but my check book said no. I did get some wheel weights though 

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