sandhiller Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Just now, 1256pickett said: I have always heard bear claw but then again my hearing ain’t the best. Either way it’s what the loggers use around here in the mud and or snow. Yup, they do look awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, sandhiller said: Never heard of them but will google Fil called them bull chains but I think diff name for the same thing. My 400 has the more aggressive cross links and I'm thinking might be a help for you Jeff. Was looking a picture of them on the tractor but it doesn't appear I have one. Here they are on the ground having just taken them off. Great big loops for the individual cross links. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermechanic Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Back when I was young, and skinny, and good looking,I had a small logging business. I had a 240 Timber jack, and a Caterpillar 525, both had chains. I left the chains on all year, they are expensive, but actually keep tire wear to a minimum in skidder service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkandcattle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 My loader tractor has 15.5 x 38 full of calcium with 300 pounds of wheel weight. Makes it heavy to stop on those dry brakes but still not enough weight with a bale out front. If I have a bale on back it will go until the front end sinks. The best help was to get away from a bucket mounted spear to a loader mounted one. 30 inches made a big difference 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said: Fil called them bull chains but I think diff name for the same thing. My 400 has the more aggressive cross links and I'm thinking might be a help for you Jeff. Was looking a picture of them on the tractor but it doesn't appear I have one. Here they are on the ground having just taken them off. Great big loops for the individual cross links. Those look really good. I have seen them around before on farm sales. I quit buying when I had chains for every tractor but............. May just have to keep an eye out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Sandhiller the answer is a small wheel loader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Just now, mader656 said: Sandhiller the answer is a small wheel loader. Much to my wife's dismay........I am on the look for one! something a bit heavier than this which has a broken hyd wheel drive fitting up in a tough to get at place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Look for Trygg studded ice chains. Pricey but there are alternative brands with the same kind of square cross loops with serious studs. These are the best for ice and frozen ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, sandhiller said: Much to my wife's dismay........I am on the look for one! something a bit heavier than this which has a broken hyd wheel drive fitting up in a tough to get at place. A Willmar Wrangler!! Those things are awesome!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 With that big heavy loader and grapple, and no fluid in the rear tires, I'm surprised the rear end touches the ground. The only thing that would give me pause about putting calcium in those wheels is that if it does get away from you and rots the rims out, now you have to find a 9-bolt 16x34 rim. With the cast centers and 38's it's a standard double bevel rim which the tire guy normally keeps in stock. There IS a cast center for 34" but they are rare. They bolt to the 9-bolt hubs and take standard double bevel rims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Speaking of ballast........I stumbled on this pic of a W-9 on a Purple Wave auction the other day. I looked in the W-9 parts book, and no weight like this is shown. Must be after market.... What the heck would that weigh? Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, mikem said: Speaking of ballast........I stumbled on this pic of a W-9 on a Purple Wave auction the other day. I looked in the W-9 parts book, and no weight like this is shown. Must be after market.... What the heck would that weigh? Mike between 3-400# ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just going to add this -- we have a 686 with cast centers -- they aren’t very heavy looking -- certainly not the weight you need. Maybe there is a heavier cast center out there for that axle that I haven’t seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjf711 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 you just need 2 bales on the back for every 1 bale you put in the loader is all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkorth Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 We were cleaning pens before this last snow, we are set up to load manure over the fence so the spreaders don't come in the pens. One pen is uphill to get to the field and was a solid sheet of ice, I have a 7140mfd dualled up,full rack of front weights and 3 sets of wheel weights, 20.8 x42 rears on a 20 ton capacity spreader and it couldn't pull it up the hill. We changed tractors to a 280 Magnum which is easily 10,000lbs heavier and it wouldn't pull it out of there either, ice is ice and it just plain sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcyfarms Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 u guys are making me hungry, i love bearclaws for bkfast - no ballast needed here ive eatn too many bearclaws if you were closer hiller id just ride on the back for counterweight 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 How would these wheels do? 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I am a firm believer in calcium in tires. As long as you don’t have a leaking tube, there’s no way it can rot a wheel. Don’t mean to be morbid, but as old as you are Jeff, you could have a leak in the tube, and your boys will have to deal with the rusted rim instead of you. My 800 Case has had a leaky tire since I bought it back in 2008. Rim was already rusty, and it is still rusty and leaky, but I have not repaired either the tire or the rim. Either would triple the value of the tractor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paystar5000 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 At work the tire guy uses rim guard which is citrus based i think? He doesn’t like beet juice because it can get foamy and hard to pump. We have lots of tractors with Calcium in the tires. The chains pictured on the 400 are called double ring chains around here. They work great if you don’t go on concrete much. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkorth Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Can't see your bale fork with a bale on it and this might sound stupid but humor me anyway. Would it be possible to weld a piece of flat stock to the front side of the mast of the bale fork to hang suitcase weights on? You may or may not have to extend the forks a little but then the weight would be removable when you don't want or need it. Once you put fluid in the tires it's kinda permanent, I don't know if any of the meadows you put up for hay get wet but fluid in the tires could make ruts where you don't want them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Make an adapter that spaces your bale fork 2 or 3 feet further back or build a bale fork that holds the bale two or three feet further back. That will transfer the balance further back. That looks like alot of weight on your 6 hole front wheels... Thx-Ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, Lazy WP said: old as you are Jeff, you could have a leak in the tube Well yes Nick, I do have a bit of a leak in the old tube, but don't think it is enough to rust a rim...............😳 🙄 😏 🤠 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, bkorth said: We were cleaning pens before this last snow, we are set up to load manure over the fence so the spreaders don't come in the pens. One pen is uphill to get to the field and was a solid sheet of ice, I have a 7140mfd dualled up,full rack of front weights and 3 sets of wheel weights, 20.8 x42 rears on a 20 ton capacity spreader and it couldn't pull it up the hill. We changed tractors to a 280 Magnum which is easily 10,000lbs heavier and it wouldn't pull it out of there either, ice is ice and it just plain sucks. Tractor tires really don't do anything on wet snow, the wrong weather and snow and definitely not a thing on ice. It seems to be worse with duals as it lowers the PSI per lug . We have found chains are necessary to plow snow with the Magnums . Only run front chains on it although we have run chains on the front and chains on the duals of the mixing tractor at times 19 minutes ago, Paystar5000 said: At work the tire guy uses rim guard which is citrus based i think? He doesn’t like beet juice because it can get foamy and hard to pump. We have lots of tractors with Calcium in the tires. The chains pictured on the 400 are called double ring chains around here. They work great if you don’t go on concrete much. Rim guard is beet juice I believe, just different brands. To control foaming our tire shop uses a little bit of water or soap , I forget what one. We have around 700 gallons of beet juice removed from the few tires we have had loaded for packing silage and the windrower when it had singles. I plan to put it in the 900/65r32 Firestone once they get mounted on the 7250 pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, bkorth said: Can't see your bale fork with a bale on it and this might sound stupid but humor me anyway. Would it be possible to weld a piece of flat stock to the front side of the mast of the bale fork to hang suitcase weights on? You may or may not have to extend the forks a little but then the weight would be removable when you don't want or need it. Once you put fluid in the tires it's kinda permanent, I don't know if any of the meadows you put up for hay get wet but fluid in the tires could make ruts where you don't want them. You hit on one of the reasons I haven't put fluid in these tires, low wet meadows. It is a small part of the hours I put on this tractor but is a real concern. Not sure I have room to add suitcase weights to the bale fork. Maybe I could stack some railroad rail in the frame somehow. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, acem said: Make an adapter that spaces your bale fork 2 or 3 feet further back or build a bale fork that holds the bale two or three feet further back. That will transfer the balance further back. That looks like alot of weight on your 6 hole front wheels... Thx-Ace Really hate to hang that bale any farther back And yes it is, I drive it low and slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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