Compact Tractors

[Mudfly]

48 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

I am in agreement but try to convince OT of that

Concur.  But remember you can buy them for nothing since nobody wants them.  😄

I could have said to find a baler with a Wisconsin engine and no PTO, but after my audacity to say that an H or M was a good idea, I thought better of mentioning a self powered baler with an engine known for being quirky when warm.

[vtfireman85]

7 hours ago, MTB98 said:

There is a lot of equipment scaled down in size for small tractors.
Here’s a link to a place in Terre Haute, IN, that sells small hay equipment.  Yanmar sells small hay equipment along with a few others. 
https://tractortoolsdirect.com/

Are these aimed at the growing demand for Guinea Pig dairy equipment? 

[Ian Beale]

3 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

I am in agreement but try to convince OT of that

Did the person who bought OT's M ever post an opininn here and was it favourable?

If so, in these troubled times, that would be a picture of perfect happiness -

Tanker happy to get rid of it and they happy to have it

 

[Ian Beale]

2 hours ago, Mudfly said:

I could have said to find a baler with a Wisconsin engine and no PTO,

There must have been balers with a version of the grey Ferguson engine on them.  That was the answer as to where the magneto equipped version engine we have in our TEA came from.  You'd have had a fair chance of starting one of them hot.

I'd guess MF?

[hillman]

8 hours ago, Mudfly said:

Concur.  But remember you can buy them for nothing since nobody wants them.  😄

I could have said to find a baler with a Wisconsin engine and no PTO, but after my audacity to say that an H or M was a good idea, I thought better of mentioning a self powered baler with an engine known for being quirky when warm.

Mudfly I am with you,............ anyone who says you can't bale with a Farmall H or M  shouldn't be on a tractor, sure its more convenient with LPTO but if its cut with a 7 footer and raked into singles its not that bad. Sure in spots it would be faster with LPTO but we are comparing it to the speed of a lawn mower

[stronger800]

A 414-466 will bolt right onto an M’s bell housing, right?  

[Alan Dinan]

I would definitely want an H or an M on a square baler before that little Jaun Deere. 
A neighbor of my grandparents, had a 660 Oliver, it was on an Oliver square baler every year until he passed away. He would then use that 660 on the wagon and put it in 1st gear and pick up bales by himself. 
His grandson had it restored by my uncle, had a body shop. Uncle said that the drawbar hole was almost worn all the way through from the square baler. Sadly the grandson has since passed away and I don’t have a clue what happened to that tractor.

[hobbyfarm]

11 hours ago, vtfireman85 said:

Are these aimed at the growing demand for Guinea Pig dairy equipment? 

At that price it would have to be a bto guinea pig farm.  One could buy a pretty good New Holland round baler and actually have a market to resale it down the road.

[hobbyfarm]

Most of the owners of compacts have them as toys.  A good many finance and trade them like they trade cars.  With the minimal use most of them get they should last forever as long as parts support is there.  I feel Kubota supports very well.   I'm not sure about the others on their compact line.  The good news is the guys buying these things help to keep our local dealers in business. 

[ChrisNY]

I have this 2007 Massey 1528 I bought new. It has been a very good tractor. It is handy for work around the house and driveway maintenance type tasks. 

[gafarm49]

my wife grows flowers with this

[Sledgehammer]

To be clear, my point was not that they are worthless in any way. They have a purpose and they have limits. Pulling a square baler with a 20hp compact hydrostatic drive tractor is dangerous at best for the people and the life of the machine. Pulling a square baler with a 4000lb 20hp tractor with a gear drive transmission won’t be near the danger.  
 

Using the factory loader on the compact to move dirt or the PTO for an appropriately sized tiller or mower is to be expected and well within the design limits.  
 

This is what they are designed for

This is not what they are designed for and the gentleman that owns it and is a member here is not going to admit to this pic being him.  The consummate know-it-all.

[Mr. Plow]

Mine is even more sub compact.....🤣🤣

[1466IH]

19 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

I dont have any pics of it on a baler honestly. A neighbor bales the rounds for us and leaves them in the field. We move them all as we all have full time jobs hat aren’t farming.  Brother has an idiot cube factory and I do help him with his sometimes for his wife’s horses. He puts up everything in small squares and sells what he doesn’t need. It came from a member here. 

That truck and those sheds look awfully familiar 😂😂 

[Alan Dinan]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Plow said:

Mine is even more sub compact.....🤣🤣

At least you aren’t using it as a 60-70 hp tractor!!

[edwardporter1]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Plow said:

Mine is even more sub compact.....🤣🤣

Rather handy a motorized shovel and wheelbarrow

[barkerwc4362]

We baled in the 60's with a 52 John Deere B pulling a 14T baler with a hay rack behind.  I spent many a day in the driver's seat of that B with my Dad on the rack stacking the hay.  The B normally mowed the hay and the 706 pulled the conditioner.  The 706 usually raked the hay.  The SMTA was occupied with the 461 cultivator when the first cutting was made.  I remember once driving the M pulling the baler, but as a 7-9 year old the clutch was much harder to operate than the hand clutch on the B.  Once the M was traded in on the 706 the B did all the baling with the 14T.

Bill

[Alan Dinan]

1 minute ago, barkerwc4362 said:

We baled in the 60's with a 52 John Deere B pulling a 14T baler with a hay rack behind.  I spent many a day in the driver's seat of that B with my Dad on the rack stacking the hay.  The B normally mowed the hay and the 706 pulled the conditioner.  The 706 usually raked the hay.  The SMTA was occupied with the 461 cultivator when the first cutting was made.  I remember once driving the M pulling the baler, but as a 7-9 year old the clutch was much harder to operate than the hand clutch on the B.  Once the M was traded in on the 706 the B did all the baling with the 14T.

Bill

Using a tractor as it was meant to be used, not a cub on the baler!

[Mr. Plow]

15 minutes ago, edwardporter1 said:

Rather handy a motorized shovel and wheelbarrow

That it is.......saves a boat load of work around the yard!!!!

[vtfireman85]

Had a BX22 Kubota here for a couple of weeks, wife loved it couldn’t keep her off of it, had a 10 gallon a day diesel habit . Said she wants one

Well now! 

so the L3800 came home a year later, she wont go near it, claims she doesn’t know how🤦🏼‍♂️🤬

 

…can’t live with them, not supposed to beat them….

[1466IH]

5 hours ago, Alan Dinan said:

I would definitely want an H or an M on a square baler before that little Jaun Deere. 
A neighbor of my grandparents, had a 660 Oliver, it was on an Oliver square baler every year until he passed away. He would then use that 660 on the wagon and put it in 1st gear and pick up bales by himself. 
His grandson had it restored by my uncle, had a body shop. Uncle said that the drawbar hole was almost worn all the way through from the square baler. Sadly the grandson has since passed away and I don’t have a clue what happened to that tractor.

Guy we know pulled a 336 deere baler behind a compact for years until he got a 4020 and now 4030. Used to pull a deere bar rake on the levee with a Honda rancher too lol

[Alan Dinan]

55 minutes ago, 1466IH said:

Guy we know pulled a 336 deere baler behind a compact for years until he got a 4020 and now 4030. Used to pull a deere bar rake on the levee with a Honda rancher too lol

He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer either 

[Rawleigh99]

I have a John Deere 4310 hydrostatic 32 horsepower 4 wheel drive with a loader for the 4 in 1 bucket, a grapple and pallet forks.  Handier than a shirt pocket, but it requires common sense to use. I've had it for almost 20 years and it has about 1100 hours on it.  Most of that time is with a 5 ft Bush hog on it. It's a whole lot easier to trim around buildings and trees with it then the big tractor. I've carried some pretty big logs with it during storms also, but you have to use common sense as it can be a little tippy. All in all it's been a great tractor though. It has a three cylinder yanmar in it. I honestly can't see much use in the smaller 20 horsepower size. Mine is a mid-size frame and I wish I had a larger frame size many times.  It is extremely useful within its limitations. You just have to apply common sense. And no I would not pull a bailer with it.

[AKwelder]

On 1/14/2023 at 9:36 AM, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

I also think there are a lot of people who finance new ones only to figure out later they can’t actually afford to have them. 

There also seem to be a lot of people who think the tractor they bought will be so handy, and it gets a couple hours a year. 
 

And then it’s for sale, because it’s still work

[yellowrosefarm]

I hate to admit it, but back in our horse days, I did pull a NH 269 square baler with my JD 750 compact tractor. But, only because I just had 2 tractors and the big one was tied up on something else. Later I pulled it with the Farmall C, which actually did a great job. Now, it would be behind the 485 if I needed some squares for something.  Or, more likely the IH 440 baler behind the 485 since it makes much better bales.