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12 hours ago, Finney said:

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so speaking of such cursing things...............not that i ever do anything like that other than im by myself or with somebody - how in the world do you find a helmet that doesnt flash up under the chin and reflect things and see better ? i see to get along best wtih my old antique jackson helmet that i got with my first AC/220 lincoln buzz box - i have yet to like my mig machine, the stupid fat head gets in the way of my welding ( im probably doing something wrong ) - i cant seem to master getting it to run a nice weld - i keep runnning back to my stick welder like a truck chasing forest gump. I am so used to trying to manage the puddle on a stick i cant seem to be able to see it let along manipulate it with the dumb mig machine. I think I need to admit defeat and attend some kind of welding classes i dont even use my mig im so frustrated and curse it like a guy named Finney ( not the proverbial sailor 😉 ) im not too proud to admit defeat

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49 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

so speaking of such cursing things...............not that i ever do anything like that other than im by myself or with somebody - how in the world do you find a helmet that doesnt flash up under the chin and reflect things and see better ? i see to get along best wtih my old antique jackson helmet that i got with my first AC/220 lincoln buzz box - i have yet to like my mig machine, the stupid fat head gets in the way of my welding ( im probably doing something wrong ) - i cant seem to master getting it to run a nice weld - i keep runnning back to my stick welder like a truck chasing forest gump. I am so used to trying to manage the puddle on a stick i cant seem to be able to see it let along manipulate it with the dumb mig machine. I think I need to admit defeat and attend some kind of welding classes i dont even use my mig im so frustrated and curse it like a guy named Finney ( not the proverbial sailor 😉 ) im not too proud to admit defeat

The mig makes a distinctive hissing/crackling sound when it's running correctly. Try and position the gun and your head so that you can see whats happening. HTH YMMV

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58 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

so speaking of such cursing things...............not that i ever do anything like that other than im by myself or with somebody - how in the world do you find a helmet that doesnt flash up under the chin and reflect things and see better ? i see to get along best wtih my old antique jackson helmet that i got with my first AC/220 lincoln buzz box - i have yet to like my mig machine, the stupid fat head gets in the way of my welding ( im probably doing something wrong ) - i cant seem to master getting it to run a nice weld - i keep runnning back to my stick welder like a truck chasing forest gump. I am so used to trying to manage the puddle on a stick i cant seem to be able to see it let along manipulate it with the dumb mig machine. I think I need to admit defeat and attend some kind of welding classes i dont even use my mig im so frustrated and curse it like a guy named Finney ( not the proverbial sailor 😉 ) im not too proud to admit defeat

I have a leather flap that snaps on the bottom of the front to prevent light from coming under the front and burning my neck I put on when needed. Miller has a app you can down load on your phone that will get you real close on setting for mig/tig and stick. 

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12 minutes ago, int 504 said:

The mig makes a distinctive hissing/crackling sound when it's running correctly. Try and position the gun and your head so that you can see whats happening. HTH YMMV

yes i have noticed that but so many times i cant get my head/helmet or the fat head of the mig into the place i need to weld or angled over to the side where i can see the wire/puddle - i do notice when i get too far away it sounds like a 2cyl john deere and putt putt putt and goes to a longer wire and pushes the gun away from the work only making things worse lol - i think if i had everything on a work bench and flat surface where i could see things it would be better, i have not been impressed with my miller helmet either its frustrating me too grrrrrrrr

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6 minutes ago, Finney said:

I have a leather flap that snaps on the bottom of the front to prevent light from coming under the front and burning my neck I put on when needed. Miller has a app you can down load on your phone that will get you real close on setting for mig/tig and stick. 

sounds like i need something like that - seems like my eyes being older are more light sensitive but need more dang light to see stuff - and now i have to deal with glasses so been thinking about getting a magnification glass next time for the helmet, do you like those or not so much ?

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13 hours ago, Finney said:

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my daughter and I had a conversation similar to this over the holidays and of course family drama with the various places she attended - its a good thing my wife knows me good because many times she knows what i am thinking and says dont go in there - and dont you say anything, do we need to leave ....... she knows my teakettle whistle before it goes about the whole room

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All depends on what you are doing. I use an old Fibre metal hood or a Miller weld mask 2.  It sound like you are holding the gun too close to the work if you cannot see the puddle. Miller also makes flashlight kits for hoods. They are a lifesaver and are (were) fairly cheap if you figure in the price of a streamlight 

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1 hour ago, searcyfarms said:

sounds like i need something like that - seems like my eyes being older are more light sensitive but need more dang light to see stuff - and now i have to deal with glasses so been thinking about getting a magnification glass next time for the helmet, do you like those or not so much ?

I use 1.75 cheaters.

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 Maybe it’s a darkness thing and not necessarily an obstruction thing. You don’t need as dark a filter for your wire feed as you do for rod. Personally I use #11 for everything because I have a fear of flash burn. I can’t see my wire feed either until I learned to make a line with soapstone next to the joint.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Plow said:

As a gas pipeline engineer,  I have been on or witnessed both sides of that mug......oh so true!

I hope your not a “it works on paper “ engineer they have received good talking to from me on occasions.

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3 minutes ago, ky966boy said:

I hope your not a “it works on paper “ engineer they have received good talking to from me on occasions.

Most engineers know its not going to stand up in the field,  or going to be serviceable,  but they have to operate under constraints that are tied to cost of production and replacement.  If it were a matter of just building the strongest highest quality "thing"  cost would go up,  things wouldnt break as much, and then new "things" wouldnt be sold as often.  

Try not to be too hard on them!

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3 hours ago, searcyfarms said:

i dont even use my mig im so frustrated 

I love welding. I’ve bought many welders. But I’m a terrible welder!! One thing I’ve noticed is I have poor fore arm strength and poor stick control. With a stick welder, if the rod goes way out of the puddle from time to time it still makes an ok weld. On the mig when the gun goes out of the puddle that’s when the arc extinguishes and you get the push back and horrible bead. I have to put gloves on and use two hands to keep the wire in the puddle at all times.

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1 hour ago, cjf711 said:

Most engineers know its not going to stand up in the field,  or going to be serviceable,  but they have to operate under constraints that are tied to cost of production and replacement.  If it were a matter of just building the strongest highest quality "thing"  cost would go up,  things wouldnt break as much, and then new "things" wouldnt be sold as often.  

Try not to be too hard on them!

I like to think of myself as an engineer who was raised on a farm by a 50year IH mechanic.......so whenever possible I have my employees consult with the trades during the design and think "buildable" when they put it to paper.   There are always rules to follow that the field would just assume not, and field fitting that works better than the prints show.....the trick is to communicate and cooperate as much as possible.....

I usually start field meetings with....."I know I'm an engineer,  and therefore "that a-hole".....but I can handle that as long as we try to work together".......helps break the ice and build a working relationship. 😀

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The best engineers I knew would come down to operations and maintenance often, not so often we didn't want to see him again though 

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