poncho villain Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 My Dresser 125E got here yesterday. I just serviced the coolant system, the Antifreeze in it looked ok but I went ahead and flushed and filled. The transmission is not wanting to act right, and the clutch pressure is either 0 or pegged to the right. I started messing with it today. I pulled out the the transmission filter and it looked horrible. There is a filter minder on mine for the transmission pressure filter, and it is pegged out as well. I understand there is a screen on these that gets clogged? Was wondering where it is. Tomorrow I am going to change the fluid in the transmission and replace the filter. I want to inspect this screen as well. The filter I removed has no number on it. It was literally falling apart. Fleetguard shows HF6064 and HF 6081 for the 125E(one is for hydraulics I am changing it as well). Do i need to flush this or can I just drain and refill? I am getting 2 transmission filters, I was going to replace it again in 5-10 hours. I understand the system takes 10w oil? I had the floor pan removed. The driveshaft turns until I put it in gear then it stops until the loader moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/50377-125e-loader/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 page 2 might have some helpful info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Here is the filters. The fluid looks bad too. Milky. I Seen some brass in the strainer. Not go much but any is bad. I figure the brass is out of the transmission. I had to order the filter. Won’t be able to try it for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Here’s the beast. Even if it needs a transmission it’s getting one. The undercarriage is great 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Good straight machine! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said: Good straight machine! Thanks! Hope transmission is ok ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmalldr Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Poncho, The suction strainer appears to be plugged with a fibre which would come from steering lining. The little brass wire stuff is from there too. No way to know when it was cleaned last. Once cleaned and new oil you will know more. The driveline is acting normal so far. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, farmalldr said: Poncho, The suction strainer appears to be plugged with a fibre which would come from steering lining. The little brass wire stuff is from there too. No way to know when it was cleaned last. Once cleaned and new oil you will know more. The driveline is acting normal so far. Dennis Dennis thanks! I wont know till the weekend my filters came in today I can’t put them on until the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, poncho villain said: Dennis thanks! I wont know till the weekend my filters came in today I can’t put them on until the weekend 3 minutes ago, poncho villain said: Dennis thanks! I wont know till the weekend my filters came in today I can’t put them on until the weekend In case anyone needs it the trans filter is wix 51181. My strainer didn’t have the spring in it I seen the manual I am not sure if this type has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 well i finally got the filters on today. I drained the torque converter, transmission, and the cooler. When i went to drain the cooler there was no drain plug, so i took off the JIC fittings on the bottom. One of the lines had been replaced, the other has been there since 1985. I went to take it off and it fell apart in my hand. This is going directly to the transmission. I feel like it could have been sucking air. Have to get new hose now i have already removed it. Hope this works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 Well I got the hose and fluid in today. I was limited on time. I started it up. Went forward and backwards. A few times. It seems to have more power and the steering seems to respond better. I know for sure the high speed is faster. The clutch pressure shows nothing at idle and maxed out under movement. I have no idea if gauge is accurate. Tomorrow I plan to let it completely warm up and see what it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmalldr Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Clutch pressure should be at 180-200 psi +/- at all times. May drop a little at idle when in gear. At least you have it moving. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pede Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Does this thing have a safety filter along the frame like the C's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 9 hours ago, farmalldr said: Clutch pressure should be at 180-200 psi +/- at all times. May drop a little at idle when in gear. At least you have it moving. Dennis This vehicle has a torque converter and a power shift transmission. What is the clutch pressure doing? Is it for the steering clutches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, pede said: Does this thing have a safety filter along the frame like the C's? yes the strainer above is it. It is a wire screen Benz filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmalldr Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 hours ago, poncho villain said: This vehicle has a torque converter and a power shift transmission. What is the clutch pressure doing? Is it for the steering clutches? The term 'clutch pressure' refers to the transmission pressure, probably the gauge on the dash, you are looking at. It is the normal operating pressure to activate the power shift transmission clutch packs. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 Question -on the left side of the torque converter there are four bolts with a plate. Is there another filter or screen in there? I changed the oil and fuel filters today. I let it warm up and operated it forward and backwards. It shifts good in all 3 gears in forward and reverse. The gauge shows zero clutch pressure in nuetral, and as soon as you put it in gear it pegs all the way to the right maxing out the gauge. I think the gauge is bad. the left steering clutch lever will almost stop the machine. The right one turns it fine. You can fiddle with the left one and it will start working right. I go to work a few days so I won’t have any time to mess with it. I think worst case it’s a bad pump. But who knows. I’ll bring gauges next week to check pressures. I hope it has minnimus ports ! thanks for all the responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmalldr Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Poncho, on late E's, which yours is, they may have plumbed the gauge differently and does not show pressure in neutral. Someone else may know. Not sure about cover but don't think there will be a filter there. When you purchase books, make sure they are for late serial numbers. I think the break is around 9500. Others may know Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, farmalldr said: Poncho, on late E's, which yours is, they may have plumbed the gauge differently and does not show pressure in neutral. Someone else may know. Not sure about cover but don't think there will be a filter there. When you purchase books, make sure they are for late serial numbers. I think the break is around 9500. Others may know Dennis Thanks so much for the info! I haven't had a chance to study my manual yet i hope to soon. It does make sense it would not show in neutral, but I hope that doesn't mean my transmission is bad, but I really don't think it is. There is no noise and it shifts great. In fact maybe i need to try to push when I get home next week to see what it does. Maybe the transmission service fixed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Well I did start her up today, let it reach operating temp. Man i like this machine it runs great. I took off on it back and fourth, it seems to be strong, but the problem is it is so muddy from all the rain i cant go try to push anything. it feels strong under power though. Right now I have been measuring all of the hoses. They look to be from 1986, so I am replacing them. I took all the belly pans out and am cleaning it up real good and inspecting. Tomorrow I am going to put gauges on it to see what my pressures are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pede Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Remember when running this, it's designed to be run at full throttle. As for the hoses it's best to take them off and have a local shop make them, that way you know it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Thanks Pede. I work in steel mill and make hydraulic hoses every day. We have the ultimate setup and they sell them to me real cheap. You’re correct about running it at high idle under operation. The temp has really came up around here, when the loader got here it was cold. I’m wondering if that could be a factor as well. Maybe it just needs warm up time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 well I messed with it a little while today, time isn't on my side right now. Main thing I did today was measure hoses to make this week. Most of the hoses look original. what i did notice was the machine takes right off and works in all gears, but when i pull the left steering lever it stops, i can jiggle it and it will try to pivot. The right one pivots fine. I have 2 questions on this. I want to adjust the brakes, the foot brake does nothing. My manual says back off the 1/1/2" jam nut, the there is a 3/4" nut to tighten. It says "to place a 3/4" wrench under the nut so as not to over tighten"? I mean don't you just gently tighten the 3/4 adjustment nut till it lightly bottoms out then back off a 1/4? not sure where it wants me to put the wrench. The second question is in my manual it shows where to hook pressure gauges but the manual I have I can hardly see the picture. Does anyone on here have a better picture? If the clutch pressure gauge is accurate, and the pressure is high, there has to be a restriction somewhere. Is there any way to flush these transmission systems? I see nothing about it in the book. It does respond and move better. I feel like it would push but it is so muddy right now. Thanks Gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho villain Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Question -on the left side of the torque converter there are four bolts with a plate. Is there another filter or screen in there? I changed the oil and fuel filters today. I let it warm up and operated it forward and backwards. It shifts good in all 3 gears in forward and reverse. The gauge shows zero clutch pressure in nuetral, and as soon as you put it in gear it pegs all the way to the right maxing out the gauge. I think the gauge is bad. the left steering clutch lever will almost stop the machine. The right one turns it fine. You can fiddle with the left one and it will start working right. I go to work a few days so I won’t have any time to mess with it. I think worst case it’s a bad pump. But who knows. I’ll bring gauges next week to check pressures. I hope it has minnimus ports ! thanks for all the responses. On 1/5/2023 at 6:36 PM, poncho villain said: well I messed with it a little while today, time isn't on my side right now. Main thing I did today was measure hoses to make this week. Most of the hoses look original. what i did notice was the machine takes right off and works in all gears, but when i pull the left steering lever it stops, i can jiggle it and it will try to pivot. The right one pivots fine. I have 2 questions on this. I want to adjust the brakes, the foot brake does nothing. My manual says back off the 1/1/2" jam nut, the there is a 3/4" nut to tighten. It says "to place a 3/4" wrench under the nut so as not to over tighten"? I mean don't you just gently tighten the 3/4 adjustment nut till it lightly bottoms out then back off a 1/4? not sure where it wants me to put the wrench. The second question is in my manual it shows where to hook pressure gauges but the manual I have I can hardly see the picture. Does anyone on here have a better picture? If the clutch pressure gauge is accurate, and the pressure is high, there has to be a restriction somewhere. Is there any way to flush these transmission systems? I see nothing about it in the book. It does respond and move better. I feel like it would push but it is so muddy right now. Thanks Gentleman Nobody ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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