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2 hours ago, acem said:

 

PS I'd rather be in a pin of cattle with men who are good cow hands and nothing but rope than a fancy set of pens with idiots whooping and hollering!

....that says it all, Ace....echoed   Jeff's words

...a piece    of polythene pipe about four foot long...with a bit of rag tied through the end....and a few quiet words can draft out a pen  quite easily..... the ''whooping  and hollering ''   just winds the cattle up

We drench adult cattle via a head stall and a crush gate...and not much else...same with NAIT tags etc

Mike

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Dad always said working cattle nice and easy and quiet was the best way. Let them think it's their idea when you can he said. Always found if I tried to hurry or push them much it never worked out..

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As you know, the company I work for sells several different brands of chutes.  They all have l good and bad, like anything.  From my perspective, Priefert and Powder River give the best customer service.  They stand behind their stuff decades after it was built.  For Priefert, I like the S04.  For Powder River, the C2000 is my pick.  I don't like auto headgates.

I still need to get you some drawings of pens for your barn.  Sorry about that, been right busy lately.  

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I find a bucket of grain, and 3 panels is all I need, they walk right on in that trailer. Most of them anyhow😁. One yearling this last week just wasn't having anything to do with that trailer. I finally won the battle, just took a bit longer. No yelling , and def no strangers. They don'tike that much 

Mark

 

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On 11/24/2022 at 7:53 PM, 885 said:

Have a filson sweep tub and it's nice. I imagine their headgates are of the same quality

I have the Filson sweep tub and chutes and headgate.  All is great on quality. I have a “sort” path in my setup that I don’t recommend, as it widens things and allows an animal to get turned around.  Auto headgate works pretty good. Isn’t fast on changing widths.   I inherited the squeeze chute and headgate and added the tub and chutes.  
 

Also, Preifert in this area is a go to brand on squeeze chutes and head catches around here.  Co-op’s carry them here.  

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On 11/24/2022 at 10:19 PM, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

We have several W-W squeeze chutes and a W-W portable corral. They’ve always worked good for us. 

Around here, those are the highest end brand there is.  

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12 minutes ago, 495man said:

I have a Stockman's Choice, automatic headgate, sides narrow in but it isn't a squeeze model.

I have no complaints with it. 

 

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A very nice example of you don't need everything perfect to safely do what needs doing to a bovine.

After watching the TV vet shows and having nothing for restraint of cows I have believed the above set up of 2 panels anchored, a for sure front gate or blocking of the runway and 2 pipes in the rear for not much money your in business.  

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On 11/24/2022 at 8:59 PM, sandhiller said:

It is easier when you don't have a bunch of yahoo's that think they know cattle getting them stirred up. 

Cows get to know you and your voice and will be calmer. 

 

I can do more by myself or with my son than I can do with other "helpers" the cattle have never been around.  We used a homemade headgate

that was 70 yrs old. Upgraded to box store tarter with self catch chute. Heavenly. 

Yes we have a 2 pen catch pen. Tub and curved chute. Scoop of chop gets them all in the pen.  Can calmly separate and get the job done from there myself. 

Loading in the trailer is easy too. Same set up. But I put a scoop of chop on an empty bag in front half of trailer. They get close, see the snack and walk on.  

I'm not working wild Buffalo. I'm raising white faces in a very relaxed environment.  

Love my cattle. Can pet most of them while cutting twine from fresh round bale to drop in haysaver feeder.

Had black. Won't go back

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On 11/26/2022 at 5:23 PM, ray54 said:

A very nice example of you don't need everything perfect to safely do what needs doing to a bovine.

After watching the TV vet shows and having nothing for restraint of cows I have believed the above set up of 2 panels anchored, a for sure front gate or blocking of the runway and 2 pipes in the rear for not much money your in business.  

Thanks, this setup was big upgrade from trying to run a cow in a pen, running around in circles and roping it, putting halter on it and trying to tie it in place around a post, then do whatever it was that needed done. 

Stockman's Choice unit was only money out of pocket and was cheap compared to getting hurt doing basic work with cow. 

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I am bringing this back to the top for a couple reasons. We bought a used Filson chute around the first of the year then had a 12 foot alley built. Has a man gate at each end and a 6 foot gate in the middle in case. The back side is adjustable. 
Still have more pipe to weld in place, but we are down to only needing 4 portable panels to be able to work critters. 

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On 11/24/2022 at 7:53 PM, 885 said:

Have a filson sweep tub and it's nice. I imagine their headgates are of the same quality

I have the Filson tub, chutes, palp cage, and squeeze chute and head catch.  I’ve bought but not set up a Preifert squeeze chute and head catch as it’s much quicker to change for size of animal.  Haven’t experienced it’s auto head catch yet to compare.  My distant cousin who has worked cows 50yrs for the public likes foremost the best and Preifert 2nd best.  I only have one experience with what has been here.   It’s all better than the two by’s and rope that Dad had when I was a kid.  

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These people were painting their chute yellow for Sioux.    Otherwise this is a Sioux chute.  They've since parted ways, and slightly changed the headgate adjustment width to a really awesome design.  

 

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5 hours ago, Lazy WP said:

I am bringing this back to the top for a couple reasons. We bought a used Filson chute around the first of the year then had a 12 foot alley built. Has a man gate at each end and a 6 foot gate in the middle in case. The back side is adjustable. 
Still have more pipe to weld in place, but we are down to only needing 4 portable panels to be able to work critters. 

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Looks good Nick

Guess you got tired of waitin for my Powder River........sorry bout that.

Mine is a Parasol with adjustable alley and I got a tub traded for, just haven't got it home yet. Doesn't live far away 

Yuge improvement over the non-adjustable wood it is replacing.

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Looking my forward to seeing Zach back on this thread🙏🙏🙏

 

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On 4/17/2023 at 12:41 AM, sandhiller said:

Looks good Nick

Guess you got tired of waitin for my Powder River........sorry bout that.

Mine is a Parasol with adjustable alley and I got a tub traded for, just haven't got it home yet. Doesn't live far away 

Yuge improvement over the non-adjustable wood it is replacing.

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Looking my forward to seeing Zach back on this thread🙏🙏🙏

 

your wish is my command! Sitting in this chair I got to thinking about this project again. I had forgotten I had asked you guys about this right before the big change lol we don’t have very many cows (20-30) I hate to spend a lot of money because of this. But on the same hand, it only takes one to make the investment worthwhile….:

 

i’ve got enough used guard rail around here that I feel like I can make my Alley and sorting pen fairly robust. Just need to round up some gates. I found them from a supplier, I’m just unsure if they are the heavy Bill gates or economy gates.

Does the squeeze chute help out that much? or is it headgate sufficient?

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Dad still uses a wooden head gate built into a doorway that is simple and a wooden panel for a squeeze that is wired to a post. All that from a Vet that owns his own portable Commercial squeeze shute on wheels….

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59 minutes ago, zleinenbach said:

your wish is my command! Sitting in this chair I got to thinking about this project again. I had forgotten I had asked you guys about this right before the big change lol we don’t have very many cows (20-30) I hate to spend a lot of money because of this. But on the same hand, it only takes one to make the investment worthwhile….:

 

i’ve got enough used guard rail around here that I feel like I can make my Alley and sorting pen fairly robust. Just need to round up some gates. I found them from a supplier, I’m just unsure if they are the heavy Bill gates or economy gates.

Does the squeeze chute help out that much? or is it headgate sufficient?

Squeeze chute versus head gate all depends on what you are doing. 
Dad never had a squeeze chute and at one time he had nearly 1000 head of cattle around. Doesn’t mean that was the best strategy, but it worked. I like a squeeze chute for branding cows, but honestly that’s about all I use it for. It also makes the head gate more secure being as the cow is standing on the floor of the chute versus getting her feet dug into the ground and pushing. 
Don’t cheap out on the head gate. A cheaper poorer design can and will bruise shoulders and choke critters down. 

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