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1 minute ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

That is terrible. I have started wearing the seatbelt in the combine and the sprayer because of stories like this, which is something I never thought I would do. I don’t know much about red combines, but our Deere machines have excellent brakes as well as cable controlled emergency brakes that work very good. Prayers for a speedy recovery. 

About 10 years ago the farmer 1 mile to the south died when he was transporting his l2 gleaner , header fell off he flew out windshield and passed away from his injuries later that day. Steering wheel just bent out of the way is what gossip was.

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1 minute ago, dale560 said:

About 10 years ago the farmer 1 mile to the south died when he was transporting his l2 gleaner , header fell off he flew out windshield and passed away from his injuries later that day. Steering wheel just bent out of the way is what gossip was.

I have heard several stories like that. I don’t think they are that common, but with the Internet you hear about a lot more of them. There have been some accidents around here, but mostly because the traffic is so bad anymore. I get the most uncomfortable moving the sprayer. There has just been so much development around here and these old roads just have way, way too much traffic on them. No shoulder on a narrow road, with a steep ditch and a half full water tank makes me feel unsafe sometimes. It’s a wonder there aren’t more accidents here. 

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10 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

Modern farm equipment is really to big for the roads any more. Especially in high population areas. 

Met a pair of combines coming down State highway 14 on my way to work a couple of years back. Both had 35 or 40 foot grain heads on! I had to get clear off the shoulder to get by. If I had legal authority, They would be piping them daylight for that little stunt! Later got the story that they don't have that far to move between fields there and so don't want to take the time to take the heads off and put them back on. One death might just change their minds? Hope it's not me or someone I know.

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41 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

Any updates on your brother's condition? Hope he is doing well.

In surgery this morning , broke the head off the femur where it goes into the hip. It wasn’t a spring that broke it was the tension rod . 

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1 hour ago, Red_Man said:

I'm so sorry to hear this Shannon, I hope Shawn has a successful surgery and a speedy recovery.

Thanks , it was a freak thing the tension rod broke that keeps the belts on the hydraulics.  No break downs all year but a few dollar rod caused a lot of problems 

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Very sorry for the situation.   I'm not familiar with that type of injury but it sounds serious with a long recovery.  

 

 

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I was wondering if that's what happened(broken tensioner rod). I've seen several of them getting worn in the area where the rod runs through the pivot that the spring retainer seats against. You'll lose steering right away. The brakes will eventually apply since the pumps quit turning, but they won't lock up immediately...there will be a time lag before they lock up. The hydro shouldn't be affected in any way, but it all happens so quickly its hard to know what all happens/didn't happen in an instant.

What worries me anytime I see this is that ag equipment slowly keeps increasing the speed on several pieces of ag equipment anymore.....we've had tractors moving 50kph(31mph) for nearly 15 years now, red sprayers can move up to 41 mph if they have no product in the tank. The mention of combines with big headers on is another problem....years ago a custom cutter was traveling down the road with a MacDon head mounted on a 2588 in road gear. The cylinder that tilts the header fore/aft broke off, allowing the nose of the header to drop down on a gravel road and then the combine tried to drive over the header. That guy never did fully recover from his injuries...retiring from the custom cutter business the following year.

To the OP, I wish your brother a speedy and full recovery. Terrible situation. The broken rod is item #27.

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15 minutes ago, SDman said:

I was wondering if that's what happened(broken tensioner rod). I've seen several of them getting worn in the area where the rod runs through the pivot that the spring retainer seats against. You'll lose steering right away. The brakes will eventually apply since the pumps quit turning, but they won't lock up immediately...there will be a time lag before they lock up. The hydro shouldn't be affected in any way, but it all happens so quickly its hard to know what all happens/didn't happen in an instant.

What worries me anytime I see this is that ag equipment slowly keeps increasing the speed on several pieces of ag equipment anymore.....we've had tractors moving 50kph(31mph) for nearly 15 years now, red sprayers can move up to 41 mph if they have no product in the tank. The mention of combines with big headers on is another problem....years ago a custom cutter was traveling down the road with a MacDon head mounted on a 2588 in road gear. The cylinder that tilts the header fore/aft broke off, allowing the nose of the header to drop down on a gravel road and then the combine tried to drive over the header. That guy never did fully recover from his injuries...retiring from the custom cutter business the following year.

To the OP, I wish your brother a speedy and full recovery. Terrible situation. The broken rod is item #27.

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That’s what broke , he said no brakes , steering and no control of the stick, happened real quick after turning into a side road. 

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12 minutes ago, SDman said:

tensioner rod). I've seen several of them getting worn in the area where the rod runs through the pivot that the spring retainer seats against. You'll lose steering right away. The brakes will eventually apply since the pumps quit turning, but they won't lock up immediately...there will be a time lag before they lock up. The hydro shouldn't be affected in any way, but it all happens so quickly its hard to know what all happens/didn't happen in an instant.

Thats what happened on our 2377 a Year ago.  Dad was turning on the end of the pass running beans when he lost the steering, seperator and header stopped. He still had the hydro though. Put a crimp on our plans that day. By the we got the part and got it fixed, Dad ran 2 rounds than it cut loose pouring down rain. Damn near got the semi stuck pulling out of there ( ground was already moist to begin with)

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2 hours ago, DT Fan said:

Met a pair of combines coming down State highway 14 on my way to work a couple of years back. Both had 35 or 40 foot grain heads on! I had to get clear off the shoulder to get by. If I had legal authority, They would be piping them daylight for that little stunt! Later got the story that they don't have that far to move between fields there and so don't want to take the time to take the heads off and put them back on. One death might just change their minds? Hope it's not me or someone I know.

35 or 40 ft head all the liability would be on the farmer.  That aside it is an unreasonable risk for any driver to deal with.  Don't matter if there is one car on that road all day.  I only have a 15 foot head and one farm away from home but giving serious thought to a header cart.  When they redid the road a month ago they actually reduced the usable width of it.  I guess next spring I get going at 5AM when all the idiot drivers are still in bed.  

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Hope your brother makes a full recovery!

Yikes, had to be scary for him.

Ever since I saw the story about Matt Griggs getting thrown thru the windshield of his Combine in 2020, I buckle my seat belt in Combine everytime I'm headed down the road with 2388.

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7 hours ago, 766 Man said:

35 or 40 ft head all the liability would be on the farmer.  That aside it is an unreasonable risk for any driver to deal with.  Don't matter if there is one car on that road all day.  I only have a 15 foot head and one farm away from home but giving serious thought to a header cart.  When they redid the road a month ago they actually reduced the usable width of it.  I guess next spring I get going at 5AM when all the idiot drivers are still in bed.  

If I get tangled up in this again I may stop and disrupt them and call 911. Report them to the sheriff. It's ridiculous!

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Glad brother wasn’t hurt any worse than he was!  Years ago my dad had a tire blow on his Massey going down the road.  It put him in the ditch right quick, but didn’t tip.  

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10 hours ago, DT Fan said:

Met a pair of combines coming down State highway 14 on my way to work a couple of years back. Both had 35 or 40 foot grain heads on! I had to get clear off the shoulder to get by. If I had legal authority, They would be piping them daylight for that little stunt! Later got the story that they don't have that far to move between fields there and so don't want to take the time to take the heads off and put them back on. One death might just change their minds? Hope it's not me or someone I know.

They were asking for trouble.  On a gravel back road I can look past it, but not on a highway.

Following an accident that someone I know was involved in (oncoming truck met his farm implement and went off the road), I called our county sheriff office to be certain what the law is about wide farm machinery.  Legally, each driver must yield half the roadway to the other driver regardless of the width of the machine.  So if someone is driving a wide tractor or harvester with duals, they are not entitled to more than half the road way.  

 

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The Docs have better equipment to work with every day. Best wishes for a full recovery.

The seat belt can be a hard sell for us kids that grew up in the bed of a pickup truck. I can,t remember anyone ever telling me I wish I hadn't been wearing that dam belt!

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Any time we move from the home farm to the river bottoms,i worry about it,i have started wearing my seat belt as well. The brakes do work well but i just don't think about using them,your body is trained to pull back on the hydro lever,because that is what yo do in the field. Hoping your brother makes a full recovery,scary how fast these things can happen.

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