nomorejohndeere Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 "Top story of the night" could be "Art story of the night" When are you gonna start a podcast? Several people died here and we have people grumbling about how the planes names/numbers are spelled out FFS. Again. If you don't like it or agree with it or trust it why do you turn it on? Why not get what you get out of it and move on? You can see what happened in the video. Why and what will come later. The reporter doesn't have time for all that or the knowledge to do so. 50 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said: Which is exactly why one should NEVER believe what a member of the MEDIA has to say about anything, as propagandists, they ARE 'paid' to sensationalize and dramaticize everything they 'report' on. Thus, the over abundance of "happy horseshit" stories. How much are you 'paid' to sensationalize and dramaticize(spelled incorrectly to match your quote) your responses with capital letters and cute quips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Unfortunately it's probably controlled flight into another plane. I doubt it has anything to do with the age of the planes and everything to do with the stunts they were preforming. Air shows are exactly that. Shows to entertain the public. They push airplanes and pilots for spectacular views. Accidents sometimes happen at air shows. Ever since the barnstormer days. I'm not trying to say we shouldn't have air shows. It's just there is danger involved. That's part of what makes the shows impressive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art From Coleman Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, nomorejohndeere said: The reporter doesn't have time for all that or the knowledge to do so. The KEY WORD here is "knowledge", which IS the word of choice when used to describe a 'reporter' or 'journalist'. So, by NOT having the "knowledge", the intrepid reporter just makes up the FACTS to meet his/her/its deadline. Remember that SENSATIONALISM, not facts, sell. And unlike the investigation, that WILL take months, or years to reach a conclusion, the MEDIA will NEVER go back and 'report' on the fault(s) that were found BY A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, that were the cause of the crash. An interesting take: https://www.businessinsider.com/journalists-brains-function-at-a-lower-level-than-average-2017-5 I would take the words "Journalists brains function at a lower level than average", to be interpreted as "journalists/reporters' are STUPID. (But highly paid despite that fact, most likely "highly paid" for their creative writing skills, and their willingness to unquestioningly parrot the proper party line. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/anything-else/2018/01/90654/average-iq-by-occupation I would argue with this assumption: Quote And people who are reporting sports are assumed to at least have average IQs. Although, it may take some intelligence to show any 'enthusiasm' for a game, watching the cretins who announce and analyze these GAMES soon destroys that idea. A totally USELESS 'profession' where ethics and intelligence are totally lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Nice attempt at hurling the sh*t covered brick... You didn't answer the question Be sure and leave out the concept of simply reporting observations ........... or news. 44 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said: The KEY WORD here is "knowledge", which IS the word of choice when used to describe a 'reporter' or 'journalist'. Not according to Oxford. Where do you get your Key Words? Journalism is the activity of gathering, assessing, creating, and presenting news and information. It is also the product of these activities. Journalism can be distinguished from other activities and products by certain identifiable characteristics and practices. Reporter a person who reports, especially one employed to report news or conduct interviews for newspapers or broadcasts. Oxford doesn't mention truth or accuracy or sensational or not. Doesn't mention anything about knowledge or usefulness or salary. Be sure and come back with the same ol thing Art. How many members of this forum do you think are not already informed of your opinion of the media. You repeat the same thing over and over, thread after thread. Like the rest of us haven't figured it out on our own. Not that I'm speaking for others. It's like giving a bus full of old ladies a long ride across town. I do apologize if you suffer from dementia or alzheimer's and are not aware.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art From Coleman Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 You believe what YOU want to believe about the SEWAGE of the MEDIA riding in on their white horses, delivering the unbiased, unvarnished truth, and I WILL continue to call out the LYING sons of beeches for being nothing but the knowing, willing, eager, unquestioning, and PAID propagandists for those whose agenda is the total destruction of moral, blue-collar, America, and the values and traditions that ONCE made it great. "Knowledge" implies intelligence, something that the studies I cited, show that the brain-dead drunkards and stoners of the MEDIA DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 how did the media topic overcome a tragedy with 6 lives lost😳 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said: You believe what YOU want to believe about the SEWAGE of the MEDIA riding in on their white horses, delivering the unbiased, unvarnished truth, and I WILL continue to call out the LYING sons of beeches for being nothing but the knowing, willing, eager, unquestioning, and PAID propagandists for those whose agenda is the total destruction of moral, blue-collar, America, and the values and traditions that ONCE made it great. "Knowledge" implies intelligence, something that the studies I cited, show that the brain-dead drunkards and stoners of the MEDIA DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT possess. I don't disagree on all fronts You're just repetitive and a negative vibe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Hey Fart from Coleman The Lindsay Dodgson you are using to bash reporters and journalists is a senior reporter Lindsay Dodgson is a senior reporter at Insider, based in London. She has been at Insider since 2016. She writes stories about the internet and influencer world, from dramas, to psychological and behavioral explanations So you will use documentation from a reporter to sensationalize your agenda against reporters while you claim to not pay attention or believe them. Call them names and claim victory. Yeah. Read that again. Dumbass HNYG8MODONWELFARE located at the second link is a football or sports page where men in tights go to bash each others teams and the reporters prolly say stupid stuff but they are covering a playground activity for a living so you can have all the traction you can muster off that one. I'm sure sports teams draw the same integrity as Walter Cronkite. With investigative skills you have displayed I will definitely keep my methods intact. try again........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 50 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said: You believe what YOU want to believe about the SEWAGE of the MEDIA riding in on their white horses, delivering the unbiased, unvarnished truth, and I WILL continue to call out the LYING sons of beeches for being nothing but the knowing, willing, eager, unquestioning, and PAID propagandists for those whose agenda is the total destruction of moral, blue-collar, America, and the values and traditions that ONCE made it great. "Knowledge" implies intelligence, something that the studies I cited, show that the brain-dead drunkards and stoners of the MEDIA DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT possess. I don't believe anything about the media. I don't own a tv or listen to the radio. So you are making up lies and pushing just like the media you hate so much LOL, you're just like them.... Baaahaaaahaaahaaaa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Hey y'all. Let's play nice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman13 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1) DROP THE CRAP, this is about the TRAGETY at the AIRSHOW....................... 2) the WFAA just released a vidieo of the crash site and Blanco Lirio (Juan Brown) detailed version of what happened........................ 3) if you want to argue about the news start a thread about it.......... 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art From Coleman Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 This is probably too detailed for certain members to process, since it involves MORE than "Airplane fall down, GO BOOM" And, I doubt that there are very few in the "news business", who have the knowledge, and ability to explain what appears to have happened, in a manner like Mr. Browne does. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Good video and explanation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 In my untrained opinion, a very good technical assessment of data by someone who knows what he is talking about. Too bad it is the postmortem of a tragedy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredT Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Its a shame for the lives lost, my prayers. There also cant be to many B17 or P63 airplanes left in flight condition. Correct me if i am wrong, but it seems to me that a B17 was quite challenging to fly also. There cant be that many people left that have experience with a plane like that. Sad situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 If only we had Randy's insight on this!! I am sure he knew everyone involved unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichow7120 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 hours ago, JaredT said: Its a shame for the lives lost, my prayers. There also cant be toany B17 or P63 airplanes left in flight condition. Correct me if i am wrong, but it seems to me that a B17 was quite challenging to fly also. There cant be that many people left that have experience with a plane like that. Sad situation. B-17s were the more forgiving plane to fly. The B-24 Liberator was the challenging one to fly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredT Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Reichow7120 said: B-17s were the more forgiving plane to fly. The B-24 Liberator was the challenging one to fly My bad, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 15 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said: If only we had Randy's insight on this!! lf l remember right, Randy did make a post here one time about flying a P-63 but not sure if it was the one involved in this incident. l tried doing a search about but couldn't find anything. Some of you might get better results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 According to a qualified source, that reviewed the flight data, appears to be another case of human error, just an accident.. Everyone involved were well qualified with many hours in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 The report that Art posted has a good point In the past shows the fighters were told to operate the parade pass at a higher altitude than the bombers giving them a operational separation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
806 man Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/15/2022 at 2:13 PM, Rawleigh99 said: If only we had Randy's insight on this!! I am sure he knew everyone involved unfortunately. No doubt Randy and the others lost are having that discussion about their last flight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Farmall Doctor Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Thanks for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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