hobbyfarm Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 How do you keep from tearing the bottom of the bag with your skid loader bucket and making a mess ? Here is a pic of the ag. A bit different then a silage bag. We are feeding brewers grain that I talked about awhile back. Resorted to shoveling which isn't the end of the world for the volume we are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Is the bag a total loss anyway? So you are just trying to prevent plastic bits in your feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractormanMike.mb Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 All I can say is there is an art to it. If/when you mess up and tear the bottom, you get to live with it until you are past it. I used to dread having someone else dig silage out of the bags because it never failed, they would tear the bag. A bucket with a worn cutting edge seemed to work better because it wouldn't catch the plastic as bad. I would try to loosen the silage first and then scoop it with the bucket starting in the dumped position so I could see the edge. Then I would carefully roll the bucket back to fill it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 #1, flat ground under the bag #2, a well worn cutting edge on the bucket #3, no downforce on the bucket when scooping #4, leave the plastic on the ground long enough that the front wheels of the loader are on the plastic and holding it in place just before the bucket hits the contents of the bag #5 use a dig cycle motion when filling the bucket so the cutting edge is against the plastic as little distance as possible I did 2 bags of high moisture cracked corn a few years ago; if I never do another bag again that will be soon enough. What a pain! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said: Is the bag a total loss anyway? So you are just trying to prevent plastic bits in your feed? Bag is once and done. Not worried about plastic in feed. The bag is on a stone lane. Tear the bottom open and loose feed onto the stones. Feed isn't expensive but that doesn't mean I want to waste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorholic Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think you just have to figure out what techniques work for you. I hardly ever put my boom clear down. And try to always leave a little feed between the bucket and bag. I do think the surface you put the bag on is very important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihfan4life Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, hobbyfarm said: Bag is once and done. Not worried about plastic in feed. The bag is on a stone lane. Tear the bottom open and loose feed onto the stones. Feed isn't expensive but that doesn't mean I want to waste it. Why not scoop a couple inches higher than the plastic and then shovel that couple of inches? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihrondiesel Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Bag on concrete and like @Gearclash said, front tires on the bag so it can’t slide and bunch up in front of the bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Shuck Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 We tried to never let the bucket touch the plastic, and left enough to be able to flip the bottom plastic over itself to move the feed left behind back up to the face. But in the end you can either avoid shoveling or avoid wasting feed, I have never found a way to do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I wonder if the trick of slitting a plastic pipe and putting it over the cutting edge would work here. The pipe helps keep the bucket from digging into the driveway plowing snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 What was used to fill that bag? The bag seems awfully flat? We grind corn to bag as well as put shell corn and soybeans in bags and it resembles more of a “tube” than that does. We load out the ground corn with a skid steer and it seems like it works a lot better than the bag in your picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said: What was used to fill that bag? The bag seems awfully flat? We grind corn to bag as well as put shell corn and soybeans in bags and it resembles more of a “tube” than that does. We load out the ground corn with a skid steer and it seems like it works a lot better than the bag in your picture. Just a bag tunnel on the back of a semi dump trailer. Dump and drive forward at the same time. The bag is very flat. Until the material ferments wouldn't it wouldnt pile up real well i don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Lots of ideas. I guess the sharp bucket edge is not my friend. The bag was bunching up and tearing. I'm going to try running on the empty bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorholic Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Dirt Floor has a point. I have never heard of filling out of a semi. We reloaded wet gluten in a mixer wagon and fed a rotopress bagger a few years back and it worked good. I would think it would pack and stand up better using a bagger and help your situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaFarmall Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 hours ago, tractorholic said: Dirt Floor has a point. I have never heard of filling out of a semi. We reloaded wet gluten in a mixer wagon and fed a rotopress bagger a few years back and it worked good. I would think it would pack and stand up better using a bagger and help your situation I think that's the best. You have to keep the bottom flat, bag must stay tight. We keep our bucket up about three to four inches off the bottom and just scoop the left over back onto the face or into the bucket. We still catch some bag, but not terrible. Haylage is the worst. It makes the bag lumpy and bunches up on the bottom bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 if you had a clam shell bucket........... could you back up with it open, watching to stay off the bottom, pulling away from the pile so it holds the plastic, then close and go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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