zleinenbach Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, New Englander said: Wow! That's quite the undertaking and I wish you the best of luck. I can imagine the mixed emotions before signing. It’s not so bad, the same bank allows me to call the house I live in “mine”, so long as those checks clear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Making a pad for generator, 277/480 transformer, diesel tank, and propane tank to sit on. Should limit any and all foreign traffic to one road, which will be monitored. Not only that but keeps traffic around barns to a minimum, should limit possible disease movement. remember the whole “6 feet and keep it neat” policy a few years back? 🤦♂️😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Back in the 70' and early 80's we had friends near us who ran a duck farm for the white Peking ducks. It was quiet an operation, from egg to packaged product onsite. They even ground and formulated their own feed onsite. All the byproducts got sold: feathers, feet, guts, you name it. Avian flu took them down hard. It was very sad to see! Sad to see such a big second generation business taken down like that! I remember that our family would go have dinner over there and after dinner the kids would pile into trailers pulled by minibikes with home made hitches to go out to shoot rats with 22's. Lots of rats and lots of fun for kids! I don't guess that would be politically correct now, but no one got hurt. It was only rat shot and we were country kids. I remember my parents going to the duck conventions with them down in New Orleans with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Here’s some updates, pad getting filled up, See through panels installed and all motors framed up, electric panels demoed and new installed fiber conduit for when that comes around here, hoping next two years. stainless pipe is antenna mount for security cameras 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Whats all the control equipment, I understand you have fans, lights and probably adjustable ventilation, that looks like a lot of wires for turkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said: Whats all the control equipment, I understand you have fans, lights and probably adjustable ventilation, that looks like a lot of wires for turkeys. The old ones were for stir fans and exhaust fans, if I counted right is was 20 fans total. Then all the temp sensors and pressure switch and vent doors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, zleinenbach said: The old ones were for stir fans and exhaust fans, if I counted right is was 20 fans total. Then all the temp sensors and pressure switch and vent doors Re-using any of the plumbing? Or is it all toast? Your going to 3ph 480 so obviously your running new wires to everything. I believe you mentioned some corrosion issues? Going plastic this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said: Re-using any of the plumbing? Or is it all toast? Your going to 3ph 480 so obviously your running new wires to everything. I believe you mentioned some corrosion issues? Going plastic this time? Grey gold. Previous install was EMT and set screw connectors. Less than water tight for sure. plumbing is going to be redone but isn’t that crazy to do. I am beyond ocd on the water line stuff, and it’s triggered looking at what they did lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCut Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 @zleinenbach reading @Rawleigh99’s post (and knowing nothing about the industry) is “flock” insurance available to protect you from avian flu outbreaks and the like? Looks as if you are going to have quite the operation when you are done with your renovations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, DavCut said: @zleinenbach reading @Rawleigh99’s post (and knowing nothing about the industry) is “flock” insurance available to protect you from avian flu outbreaks and the like? Looks as if you are going to have quite the operation when you are done with your renovations. I would think so. I asked when the “haggling” was going on, and they said in a nutshell it’s next to impossible to get loss of income insurance on birds that aren’t yours technically. I do know some other growers who purchase the birds can, and do, do that. I think it’s about like anything with money involved, if they can pin it on you, you ain’t getting the money lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Here’s some more. got antennas for security cameras mounted, nothing crazy just some stainless clamps, they will shoot to my house and we can monitor traffic (feed, gas, fuel, nosey neighbors lol) from home or phone. Again, just to keep abreast of what’s going on, not to hawk it. got outdoor panel, disconnect, and transfer switch mounted, and all conduits measured to get wire for them. drove ground rod in with my post driver. It’s a 3” sch40 black pipe with a chunk of round stock welded in the end. Just the weight alone will push it in dang near. As dry as it is I was happy with the 3 minute install on a 10’ rod. got one building of waterers and water line out, ran outta trailer so will need to wait for next one. if homo depot had paint the tanks woulda gotten a makeover but that must be on a ship right now because there wasn’t a gallon of anything besides safety pink on the shelf. I coulda used that but people already are saying I’m nuts lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 hours ago, zleinenbach said: I would think so. I asked when the “haggling” was going on, and they said in a nutshell it’s next to impossible to get loss of income insurance on birds that aren’t yours technically. I do know some other growers who purchase the birds can, and do, do that. I think it’s about like anything with money involved, if they can pin it on you, you ain’t getting the money lol Looks like a heck of a project to get going. Avian flu hit several farms around here. Some believe the wild birds spread it. Scary times but Usda took pretty good care of them. Income loss was very minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, hobbyfarm said: Looks like a heck of a project to get going. Avian flu hit several farms around here. Some believe the wild birds spread it. Scary times but Usda took pretty good care of them. Income loss was very minimal. That’s what I was told too. The only thing is you have to keep up on bio security (rodent traps, disinfect everything, no sharing equipment between farms, etc) but I believe most if not all guys do that anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 59 minutes ago, zleinenbach said: 3 minute install on a 10’ rod. Where’d you get 10’ ground rods? pops had one one day, beat away on it till he was pooped but it kept going ever so slowly kept coming back throughout the day, pounding some more , eventually after he got down within a foot of the ground it started to come back out behind him. No surprise I guess, the mountain is solid marble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 WinSupply in Jasper 3/4x10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I have only ever seen 8’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 12:51 PM, Rawleigh99 said: shoot rats with 22's One of my favorite pastimes as a kid, the rat jihad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 hours ago, zleinenbach said: Here’s some more. Wow! Project is moving along quite nicely. It sure looks like you're doing it up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
560Dennis Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Haven’t read all the post but ,to me your a farming hero of the decade . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 hours ago, vtfireman85 said: I have only ever seen 8’ They know you’d probably get tired after 8 and cut 2’ off 😁😁😁 you would hit rock by 8’ surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleinenbach Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, 560Dennis said: Haven’t read all the post but ,to me your a farming hero of the decade . If I am in your hero category, you need to borrow a bigger ladder to set your bar higher !!! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, zleinenbach said: They know you’d probably get tired after 8 and cut 2’ off 😁😁😁 you would hit rock by 8’ surely? Depends on where you are at, i got a driver for our big rotary hammer, i cant say i was wowed, i have a post driver like you describe but it could use more weight, long thought of welding a chunk of solid steel to the top of it. As you know the biggest issue with driving a ground rod is trying to catch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Looks good Z! Have you guy ever tried to install a ground rod using water? I’ve heard of it, but haven’t tried it myself. Probably doesn’t help a lick in rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Gearclash said: Looks good Z! Have you guy ever tried to install a ground rod using water? I’ve heard of it, but haven’t tried it myself. Probably doesn’t help a lick in rocks. I would like to know more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dinan Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just a 12 ounce bottle of water and you can work the rod in without a hammer. Working it up and down, add a little water, and it goes down. I didn’t believe it until I tried it. You will have to use a hammer for the last few inches. As long as you don’t hit any rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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