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I had to struggle to get little(heavy)  attachment out of the the barn with out getting me or my son hurt. But we did it. Exhausted and sucking in big wind ,my son made chuckle. He said as we were in the loading area ,” ( I THOUGHT I WAS IN GOOD SHAPE ,! ) I felt better after that statement. We loaded it to take to my house for restoration to operate again . I’m interested in it looking nice to use and to take to shows ,it is going get to work again 
So I’ll need your help ,been 60 years since I last saw it run . One of the big issues was it was cracking seed kernels under the one seed hopper ( which one don’t remember) .  Why I never found out ,why! as a teenager probably didn’t care , but I care now now, want to be right . 
The planter? , not a C220 ,that’s the check row Don’t know the difference between 221 and 222yet . If you do tell me , I just stated reading the Ihc manual. 
Also have a binding of the drive chain identifying photo also . 

one thing also is to figure out how put some kind dolly under the frame to keep this these sections from falling on us. Thunder must have tip on me moving it ten times , enough of that , not getting hurt to plant corn ,I’m not as strong as I use to be by a lot .
Thats my start of this journey. 
 

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C221 is a straight drill planter, C222 is a power hill drop planter. I was just looking at that planter in the 1949 General Line Catalog at Wisc. Historical Society. 

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10 hours ago, MacAR said:

C221 is a straight drill planter, C222 is a power hill drop planter. I was just looking at that planter in the 1949 General Line Catalog at Wisc. Historical Society. 

Mac

Thanks , call it a c221, nice work !

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Some of the Fertilizer unit don’t want to come apart . And so fragile so so fragile! 

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34 minutes ago, 560Dennis said:

Some of the Fertilizer unit don’t want to come apart . And so fragile so so fragile! 

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Those look to be the same fertilizer units that are used on my 220 trailing planter. I would guess the row units & hoppers should be the same, too?

You mentioned that there was ground up kernels in one of the hoppers. Outside of having damage to the hopper bottom or the odd larger kernel not fitting the seed plate, the wrong thickness filler ring could also have been an issue.... or none at all in that hopper. Poorly graded seed is another thought. That's the issue I'm having, trying to find large cell plates to plant Hickory King with. The seeds are thrown in the bag, butt shells & all. A guy would have to use an air planter to put that in the ground.

I got a few pics from my '52 General Line Catalog to add to your post.

Good luck with your resto!

Mike

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1 hour ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

Those look to be the same fertilizer units that are used on my 220 trailing planter. I would guess the row units & hoppers should be the same, too?

You mentioned that there was ground up kernels in one of the hoppers. Outside of having damage to the hopper bottom or the odd larger kernel not fitting the seed plate, the wrong thickness filler ring could also have been an issue.... or none at all in that hopper. Poorly graded seed is another thought. That's the issue I'm having, trying to find large cell plates to plant Hickory King with. The seeds are thrown in the bag, butt shells & all. A guy would have to use an air planter to put that in the ground.

I got a few pics from my '52 General Line Catalog to add to your post.

Good luck with your resto!

Mike

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That’s a really informative book you got. I haven’t seen one . 
Im sure that it’s something like what you telling me , as remember it was only one side ,left or right can’t remember . Fortunately there are some kernel of seed in the hopper after all these years to measure or compare with the seed plate numbers . 
Got the fertilizer hoppers apart time for a break and regroup .

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Those fertilizer attachments.... I have an Allis two row planter with good fertilizer parts. I used it once, took about 45 seconds to plant my four rows of sweetcorn and about an hour of cleaning to prevent rust! Only did that once. have a guy that wants to buy that planter and I may just sell it to him.

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On 8/5/2022 at 1:19 PM, Absent Minded Farmer said:

Those look to be the same fertilizer units that are used on my 220 trailing planter. I would guess the row units & hoppers should be the same, too?

You mentioned that there was ground up kernels in one of the hoppers. Outside of having damage to the hopper bottom or the odd larger kernel not fitting the seed plate, the wrong thickness filler ring could also have been an issue.... or none at all in that hopper. Poorly graded seed is another thought. That's the issue I'm having, trying to find large cell plates to plant Hickory King with. The seeds are thrown in the bag, butt shells & all. A guy would have to use an air planter to put that in the ground.

I got a few pics from my '52 General Line Catalog to add to your post.

Good luck with your resto!

Mike

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Please do me a favor does that book have a C272 cotton,corn planter ? Please look !

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Well I may make a decision after wire brushing the rust off the hoppers ,but I like to keep it as original and possible. Just because I like , . I might look for some galvanized steel at air gas in Painesville cut off bottom below funnel section leave an inch and roll in a sleeve to replace the bottom . Anybody done that ?

 

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1 hour ago, DT Fan said:

Those fertilizer attachments.... I have an Allis two row planter with good fertilizer parts. I used it once, took about 45 seconds to plant my four rows of sweetcorn and about an hour of cleaning to prevent rust! Only did that once. have a guy that wants to buy that planter and I may just sell it to him.

Good fertilizer units is a serious plus on your ac  , cost to repair or replacement , I look at tractor house ,a vendor has a set of planter newest than mine ,their asking 4 k I think it was in Illinois,anyway ! And it was without the fertilizer units ! 
good luck 

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4 hours ago, 560Dennis said:

Please do me a favor does that book have a C272 cotton,corn planter ? Please look !

This book covers the C279 Blackland planter & the C280 runner-type cotton planters. The dates listed on the pages in this catalog are a bit random, so not everything is covered for the same year. I'm going to guess the C272 was for the C? It looks near identical to the C280 made for the Super C.

I'll leave you with a link to the C272 in the '49 catalog in the WHS archive. If you would like me to attach pics of the C279 & C280, just let me know & I will post them.

https://content.wisconsinhistory.org/digital/collection/ihc/id/26974/

Mike

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On 8/4/2022 at 8:09 PM, MacAR said:

C221 is a straight drill planter, C222 is a power hill drop planter. I was just looking at that planter in the 1949 General Line Catalog at Wisc. Historical Society. 

Mac

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know there were more catalogs scanned into the archive. The only one available, a while back, was the catalog from '40 & I already have a hard copy.

Now that more are available, I see more lost time in my future. :v)

Mike

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2 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

This book covers the C279 Blackland planter & the C280 runner-type cotton planters. The dates listed on the pages in this catalog are a bit random, so not everything is covered for the same year. I'm going to guess the C272 was for the C? It looks near identical to the C280 made for the Super C.

I'll leave you with a link to the C272 in the '49 catalog in the WHS archive. If you would like me to attach pics of the C279 & C280, just let me know & I will post them.

https://content.wisconsinhistory.org/digital/collection/ihc/id/26974/

Mike

Thank you 

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3 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know there were more catalogs scanned into the archive. The only one available, a while back, was the catalog from '40 & I already have a hard copy.

Now that more are available, I see more lost time in my future. :v)

Mike

I'd like to find the 1950, 55, and 59 catalogs. So far I've not had much luck. 

Mac

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Spent most of the day with wire brushes,screwdrivers,putty knife cleaning grease and Ohio yellow clay off the planters. Got the easy  stuff with the power washer . But the clay mixed with grease even the power washer just bounced off of it like Kevlar. 
Would work till the sweat would burn my eyes, then go in the house and cool off . Checked the heat index on the weather station ,thunder! It  was 108 .

lucked out thunder storm blow in ,rained hard wash all the rusty dust off frame . 
Came out did little more

,came in for shower, home made ice cream and lemon mirage pie ,done for the day

tomorrow maybe ,just maybe put some rusty metal primer on the easy spots. 
ain’t projects like just what you need to feed tractor fever just hopefully the humidity will go below 65 so I can paint 

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17 hours ago, 560Dennis said:

Spent most of the day with wire brushes,screwdrivers,putty knife cleaning grease and Ohio yellow clay off the planters. Got the easy  stuff with the power washer . But the clay mixed with grease even the power washer just bounced off of it like Kevlar. 
Would work till the sweat would burn my eyes, then go in the house and cool off . Checked the heat index on the weather station ,thunder! It  was 108 .

lucked out thunder storm blow in ,rained hard wash all the rusty dust off frame . 
Came out did little more

,came in for shower, home made ice cream and lemon mirage pie ,done for the day

tomorrow maybe ,just maybe put some rusty metal primer on the easy spots. 
ain’t projects like just what you need to feed tractor fever just hopefully the humidity will go below 65 so I can paint 

There's a cold front that should work it's way through your neck of the woods, late tonight. Should bring down the temps some & the humidity. You'll have that planter done in no time then. :v)

Mike

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Lots of tight corners on this baby . Don’t mind makes me look for issues that need corrected . 
Getting close to prime time .

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Ordered decals for seed hopper ,got them from maple hunter Dave and Bob gave me tip where they go . They got the blue going to hand paint the lid and white stripes . 
got go here thunder need to cover planters 

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Decided waiting for the sun to come out to descale the this part of the runner opener ( is that what it’s called ) can’t find in the manual . 
Home made electrolysis tank . 
using old wizard battery charger on 6 volt ,measurements are about 3 volts at electrodes, so about 20 watts . 
i can’t get it apart but the rust and dirt under sides is pushing against the drop tube ,want release that pressure hopefully the electrolysis will soften it up . Don’t want it to crack that tube . Never find one unless Mike has one .
maybe seal it with JB weld ? 

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Bending over so long in one spot wire brushing the frame ,developed mid back muscle strain , Tylenol 

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About three hours of electrolysis at 6  volts setting 5 amp on meter , I measured almost 4 volts on wires maybe 20 watts plus .

you can compare the change from before and after .

i did use wire brush by hand to clean off paint ,but when it did that exposed bare metal from 73 years after came out of tank.
anyway I think while doing something else I can remove some rust with a lot of rust .

there soft black corrosion residue that needs to scrub of ,power wash or wire brush or steel wool .

i do it outside cause give off hydrogen, I don’t go anywhere unplug it . I don’t use 12 volt uses 13 to 15 amps wires get hot. 
 

 

 

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Soaked the boot of the planter in the electrolysis barrel to lossen up rust and dirt that popped  the weld . Walking in uncharted territory with tools to get the rust and dirt out to the boot. Dirt left in there split the weld. I’m going to have to mill out pin to get it all out of there . Got to go easy cause I can’t crack that fertilizer tube, aren’t any of those anywhere. 

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I found a decal on the frame plate . After 73 years not much left of it . But I’m curious what it was , maybe you might know or seen it before . 
Friends said might be a patient number. ? 

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6 hours ago, 560Dennis said:

I found a decal on the frame plate . After 73 years not much left of it . But I’m curious what it was , maybe you might know or seen it before . 
Friends said might be a patient number. ? 

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i think I found something similar on eBay , this label looks very close ,what do you think ?

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