mike newman Posted December 12, 2025 Author Posted December 12, 2025 On 12/11/2025 at 2:41 PM, jeeper61 said: This guy is almost as good as Mr Newman Mike did you ever run any old cable stuff? https://www.facebook.com/reel/1386642599494641 ...short answer is 'no' !!..but I did have a play on an old functioning drag line.. ..the technique used above is exactly the same as 'shovelling ' logs on a hillside with the 30 ton Excavator... ...get a bit of momentum..swing and release at the crucial moment ......the 20 ton excavator requires a lot more caution...one can be a bit cavalier in the bigger machine...but I have posted pictures on here long since of a 20 ton machine on its side on a steep slope,whilst shovelling logs.. Also heaving 'sloven's ' over the side of a skid site on the steep hills,can be quite fun....(and highly illegal..) using the same technique as the dragline.... We are talking of ''grapples '' , of course.... Mike ... 4 Quote
td9bcf180 Posted December 18, 2025 Posted December 18, 2025 Anyone have one of these? Pettibone CaryLifts. Made in Baraga, Michigan. Had one of each-a Super 8 model with Chrysler Industrial motor and a Super 15 with a screamin 471 Detroit retrofitted. The 15 is still running. Still have yours? @Rawleigh99 3 Quote
Rawleigh99 Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 I still have a super six Cary-lift with the forklift on the boom. I haven't used it in a long time and there's some trees growing up through it right now, but it would lift 6 tons 33 ft high. The three speed Rockwell transmission was down to a single speed last I used it. Mine has a six cylinder Ford industrial engine that only ran on five cylinders. I have a replacement in storage but haven't gotten around to installing it. It will need four new tires as I got it from a junkyard and metal is constantly working their way through the tread. It's on my someday list, but that doesn't seem to be getting any shorter! Quote
td9bcf180 Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 11 minutes ago, Rawleigh99 said: It's on my someday list, but that doesn't seem to be getting any shorter! Ya, I hear you loud and clear. If we only had more time and $$$. I sold my old 8 to a scrap dealer years ago- just had no more use for it and it was in sad shape anyways. The 15 was sold with the business a few years back and then they resold it and its still going, I hear. Quote
td9bcf180 Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 Old time logging in Ontario 1940's or 50s. With a little help with a push from an International TD9. 4 Quote
jeeper61 Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 Old Loadstar hauling logs in Alberta 5 Quote
jeeper61 Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 International TD25C pushes International 433 https://www.facebook.com/reel/752219847899480 5 Quote
hardtail Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Those were the same type of hills we were constantly working in up north at -30 and colder and constantly chaining and un 3 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Not going under a bridge for sure https://www.facebook.com/reel/2270693616403934 4 Quote
td9bcf180 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said: Those tracks seem really tight. I was just about to say the same thing- the dozer tracks next to it seem to be OK. I'm guessing a late 1950's TD24? Quote
mike newman Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 1 hour ago, td9bcf180 said: I was just about to say the same thing- the dozer tracks next to it seem to be OK. I'm guessing a late 1950's TD24? 4 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said: Those tracks seem really tight. Re the above... .....when ,as a young bloke, doing welding at the local Caterpillar dealer.....and being coerced into the dreaded track press room.....I once asked the old workshop Boss,''why do some blokes run the tracks so tight..??". ....this because I would notice some machines come into the yard with ''loose'' tracks...others so tight as to look like the tracks pictured above...It seemed obvious that tight tracks would induce greater wear..on all components, except bottom rollers... Having run both excavator tracks...and 'dozer tracks...for literally, thousands of hours, I firmly believe that the track tension..as offered in Operator manuals, is far to tight....We could spend hours discussing this point.......and I would enjoy doing just that..but this is not the place for the index (one ) fingered ''typist'' to go into battle against the Manufacturers ideals..... The old Workshop Boss...Alec Kerr by name,... answered my question...he removed the pipe from his mouth, slowly messed with it...as if in deep thought..... "'Its because we sell new track components''....was the answer....The significance of that answer would have been lost on me, at that time...but certainly not in later years..... Mike 5 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, td9bcf180 said: I'm guessing a late 1950's TD24? Photo caption listed this blurb This is a fairly late production TD-24 241 series as it has the aircleaner located on the left hand side of the engine. On earlier machines it was in front of the operator. 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Here is another TD-24 logging on Vancouver Island 1955 3 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 12 hours ago, jeeper61 said: Photo caption listed this blurb This is a fairly late production TD-24 241 series as it has the aircleaner located on the left hand side of the engine. On earlier machines it was in front of the operator. Did later TD24s have larger track frames? Quote
td9bcf180 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 On 12/30/2025 at 8:00 PM, jeeper61 said: Old Loadstar hauling logs in Alberta I know these logs are probably spruce and therefore not that heavy but I can't see that there would be enough "berries" under the hood of that 1600/1700 Loadstar to pull a 3 row trailer of 16 foot (or are they 8 foot?) logs? 345 V-8 or 392 at the most still looks underpowered to me. Hmmm. 1 Quote
td9bcf180 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 21 hours ago, mike newman said: The old Workshop Boss...Alec Kerr by name,... answered my question...he removed the pipe from his mouth, slowly messed with it...as if in deep thought..... "'Its because we sell new track components''....was the answer.... Mr. Kerr must have been a "Company Man", @mike newman. He must have been in the Sales Department too! All kidding aside, I am sure he had a wealth of knowledge under his cap. All your comments are bang on- new specs in the manual for brand new shiny machines were probably accurate but after a few months/years wear- "adjustments" were by eye and ear. Too tight tracks might bring on a squeal and failed bearings in final drives whereas too loose would get track jumpers off sprockets or front idlers. I was reading old posts here on this forum by MBCat, I believe, in regard to timing marks/procedures for old TD9's. Same idea as written above- don't always go by the marks- they are just a guide. Use eyes and ears- listen to what the motor is telling you and look at the smoke coming out the stack. I am definitely not a mechanic and only wish I had those fine tuned skills achieved from their experience. @jeeper61 I can't tell you much about TD24's and extended track frames. Never been around one or even seen one. The one in your picture is a 7 roller- whether 6 was standard or 7 I don't know; someone will probably jump in here and tell us. 4 was standard on TD9's and 5 bottom rollers were the extended track frame. I have one TD9-91 series of each. 3 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/4/2026 at 10:17 AM, td9bcf180 said: I know these logs are probably spruce and therefore not that heavy but I can't see that there would be enough "berries" under the hood of that 1600/1700 Loadstar to pull a 3 row trailer of 16 foot (or are they 8 foot?) logs? 345 V-8 or 392 at the most still looks underpowered to me. Hmmm. They may have been short hauling from their wood lot to a landing close by too be picked by larger trucks, the loadstar may have been a 1800 Tandem There were older trucks with less power hauling logs in 30s 40s and 50s We see tandem grain trucks with 392s and 5 and 4s those can get real heavy Seen a few DT466s with 13 speeds too. 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Red + Mack and heavy haul Ever wondered what real pulling power looks like? A company was hauling a 400,000 lb transformer with a semi and trailer weighing another 200,000 lbs. The frozen hill stopped them cold… until Aron Torgerson showed up with the CASE IH 715 Quadtrac. With only 13% slip, the 715 pulled the entire load up the hill like it was nothing. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1284778553478430 7 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I don't recall ever seeing a tracked Timber Jack Edit: I believe this is a AI generated image 1 Quote
td9bcf180 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, jeeper61 said: I don't recall ever seeing a tracked Timber Jack Now that's quite a find. Is that an IH undercarriage? Detroit powered? 1 Quote
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