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.....there are so many old pictures ...held in dusty box's by equally ''old'' blokes, who have long past their days of battling  with  buggared tracks ...mud...broken winch ropes...broken marriages ...broken  dreams etc etc..old blokes now, who would never have fitted in this''modern' safety oriented , over regulated  world....

I have crudely copied a few, from another old ,very recently visited , friend...Some of the originals leave a bit to be desired ...so bear with them !!!!

RF  190    with TD24 settling down on the low bed...( I think ???...or is it a LF195 ???? )

AR174 with  TD6   ''over-loader''    set up

Isuzu    with TD9   ''over -loader''  set up

Mike

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Generous helping of pig iron applied

Easier to sideload but gotta pretty wide, back when road rules were relaxed also I take

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Oh Mike!!  The site of that old Bedford sure brings back some memories...

We had a 7-ton petrol (gas for the USA), and I really cut my 'driving teeth'  on that old Bedford!!  The steering was about 500 turns from lock-to-lock (It seemed that way then..), and at that age (14) I could at least reach all the pedals and gear lever...
I can still hear my Dad's 'advice' to steer wide, and start swinging that steering wheel!!! 

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18 hours ago, Howard_P said:

With 7 vertical bars in the grille that's an LF. R-line has 3.

Thankyou, Howard _P    :)

I have a few to put on the ""Troll for the Site" topic...and as there is zero   information on the ''specific's'' of the trucks..I will be guessing at times as there was a proliferation of different models  that came into NZ..

Mike

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18 hours ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

Regarding that over-loader setup, thank goodness they don’t make them like they used to Mike. 

 

4 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said:

First time I have seen pictures of an overshot loader working in real life!!

...Yeah.....not for the faint hearted ....I remember seeing these ''machines'' working..years ago..a lot of noise  with the ''product''   raining down on the truck deck

Mike

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On 7/29/2022 at 3:33 AM, dewets said:

Oh Mike!!  The site of that old Bedford sure brings back some memories...

We had a 7-ton petrol (gas for the USA), and I really cut my 'driving teeth'  on that old Bedford!!  The steering was about 500 turns from lock-to-lock (It seemed that way then..), and at that age (14) I could at least reach all the pedals and gear lever...
I can still hear my Dad's 'advice' to steer wide, and start swinging that steering wheel!!! 

Yeah, @dewets..of course  I screwed  up by calling it "Isuzu""...but soon "Bedford " disappeared   to be replaced by "Isuzu"   We used a 4x2 Bedford for many years...same issues as you faced ...underpowered, but like all under powered trucks I had..if one was patient, you made the finish line eventually...and that helped the bottom line to get something a bit better...and so on...ad infinitum..:)

Mike

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5 hours ago, Ian Beale said:

Mike

I remember a truck discussion where Bedford was dismissed as "Not even a good poor man's truck"

...yeah...the have  come and gone......from  the old ''K' models to the bigger stuff     ..TM  with a Detroit in....

Mike

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On 7/29/2022 at 11:48 AM, Rawleigh99 said:

First time I have seen pictures of an overshot loader working in real life!!

They scrap 2 of them a few months ago. Could have saved them but, I cannot save everything with no help. No one is interested in saving old iron and working no more. Shame.😞

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@mike newman  No need to apologize for those copies of the pictures, they are quite sharp and the color is brilliant. Kodachrome maybe?? or were you using maybe Fuji film down under?  Thank you for the history.

I love the old IH truck bodies, round like a robust woman and hard like the man that covets her.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Did this over-loader idea ever compete with something like a Drott front loader or was it before them? It looks like they were  all hydraulic?  No cables. Slow cycle I imagine.

I have a Bedford dumper Matchbox Truck , the first one I ever got.

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Isn't that an IH 290 semi since it has the duel axles?  we had one. Use to load the 20/201 still hooked to the pan, could get the front tires on the beaver tail, and down the road we go.    

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7 hours ago, pede said:

Isn't that an IH 290 semi since it has the duel axles?  we had one. Use to load the 20/201 still hooked to the pan, could get the front tires on the beaver tail, and down the road we go.    

...you got me there, pede !!!

....Howard_P    corrected my initial     post in respect of model....

....Mike

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Nice pics, Mike.  Your AR174 with TD6 overloader:  That grill/cab is exactly what we had on an old 1955 log truck- tandem axle- with inline 6 ,Black Diamond 282 motor. Here it was a Model RF170. Does the "A" stand for Australian made like the "British" BTD6 etc.?

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On 8/4/2022 at 12:39 PM, td9bcf180 said:

Nice pics, Mike.  Your AR174 with TD6 overloader:  That grill/cab is exactly what we had on an old 1955 log truck- tandem axle- with inline 6 ,Black Diamond 282 motor. Here it was a Model RF170. Does the "A" stand for Australian made like the "British" BTD6 etc.?

Yes.....all the Aussie built trucks that I had were prefixed with  ""A""....trucks built after the pictured ones above !!

...it was great for the likes of us down under...huge tariffs imposed on US built products back then....and now, , so with the advent of Ford, IHC, Mack KW  etc having manufacturing facilties  in Australia.....and with Australia being a huge consumer of  all products....we in little NZ could get some  good equipment  at almost affordable cost.....

Mike

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...few more pics

..looks like a Hough 30 loading a 4x2  "Thames Trader""...a British Ford product

...some yet to be identified loader..loading a KB6....I think I see  ''75A" on theb loader frame...that was a Michigan   number????.note the 'grizzly' screen on the back of the KB ..common  pratice back then..!!

....another Hough  loading an AR  with a TD 9 pushing above

Mike

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A for Aussie built. Makes sense.  Now that TD9 in your last photo looks like the 91 series with manual angle blade or bullgrader.  (That's what I am attempting to rebuild- a 91 series with that style blade and extended track frame with 5 bottom rollers).

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8 hours ago, td9bcf180 said:

A for Aussie built. Makes sense.  Now that TD9 in your last photo looks like the 91 series with manual angle blade or bullgrader.  (That's what I am attempting to rebuild- a 91 series with that style blade and extended track frame with 5 bottom rollers).

... a few pictures that may  interest you !!!

B in Law  and I salvaged this 'local'  91   series.....it had a smashed final drive housing...and was considerably distressed in other areas.....

..all the pig iron was scrapped....   TD9B  final drive housings fitted to both sides....one replacement liner fitted...brakes /clutches  etc...usual myriad of small details to be attended to....It goes really well...used it for five aside bush and bog discing...and heavy harrowing on the hills  It has that "nylon"  type bushes in the front Idlers and carrier rollers....stuff  that can be machined to fit , where ever...seems quite satisfactory

Only about 16 came into New Zealand

Mike

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Great pics and thanks for posting them Mike.  Mine is almost identical- canopy and all except blade is different.  Blown final drives and cracked heads were the weaknesses of TD9's.  Nice to know that TD9-92 series final drive housings will fit 91 series.  Here's a couple pics of mine before it was stripped down (and I am way behind, timewise, getting it put back together.)  Note the "fantail" on the drawbar used to insert log chokers to skid with.  "Sawmill" on this forum gave me some good advice on TD9's years ago. Not sure if he's still around?

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Last I heard Greg was still around, Brian aka @captain_crunch was trying to get him to come back but life gets in the way...lots of good times back then with the bunch 😊

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.....a lot of work ahead of your  TD9......@td9bcf180  !!!!

I have a D6B  ...hence on   the TD6's  and TD9"s we have...the scrap pig iron gets the heave ho.....those wee crawlers are always happy to get that crap off their backs....I always maintained   a lot of the reason for the cracked heads was that conglomeration  of hydralic pumps  / oil  /   gaurd etc   and the yearly build up of  crap over the radiator core....then the tractor was given a ''sucker'' fan...four blades at that , generally...

...Greg  may have given you good advice re the TD 9...but I reckon he was one of those dedicated  Caterpillar blokes ....whom, upon going to bed, would read himself to sleep with the  Caterpillar Service Manual   for company.............:rolleyes:...enthralling stuff...

I think logging was about his favourite occupation...

pic of the old 91 Seies....after dragging up a trailer load of hay ...way up the back..for cattle...(showing off the new upholstery...!!!)

Mike

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...few more old pics

....AB   180     with an old  Ruston Bucyrus  heaving a bit of gravel  on board......

.....an AR   6x4  plus stuff I cannot identify......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..an  AR /AS  and KB6 in the back ground with TD6 loading....

Mike

 

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2 minutes ago, mike newman said:

...few more old pics

....AB   180     with an old  Ruston Bucyrus  heaving a bit of gravel  on board......

.....an AR   6x4  plus stuff I cannot identify......

....an  AR /AS  and KB6 in the back ground with TD6 loading....

Mike

 

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...do you wonder why the finals on those poor old TD's   went south....??...Think of the loading on those pivots with that contraption...at least, however, those tractors did not have to turn with that loading on the track frames....(.no back up  ''beepers'' either...:)..to drive you nuts on a big work site...)

Mike

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