FarmallFan Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 31 minutes ago, Lazy WP said: Unless you were involved, I recommend praying for the family who lost a loved one and leave it at that. There were no injuries to any person. Unless you are considering the tractors a "loved one". 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Plug Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 This is a sad read .... Proves again things can get out of control in the blink of an eye.... Prepare for the worst , and live the unexpected. HP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 minutes ago, FarmallFan said: There were no injuries to any person. Unless you are considering the tractors a "loved one". My mistake. I thought that the article said there was a fatality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, Lazy WP said: My mistake. I thought that the article said there was a fatality. I thought that at first too. Think it was a link to another article. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 34 minutes ago, Lazy WP said: My mistake. I thought that the article said there was a fatality. Never the less, you are right, none of us seem to have been there and we shouldn’t rake someone over the coals without actual information. I apologize for starting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Ouch. Regarding the straps, not my first choice for securing a tractor BUT back when I read up on cargo securement I saw nothing that specifically forbade straps. The only stipulation was sufficient load rating of the securement for the cargo weight. One thing I learned since: no matter how much load rating the cargo securement has, in an accident/collision there is a good chance the G loads will exceed the maximum breaking strength of the securement (or the anchors) and then you have a large cannon ball . . . 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G. Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Man sorry to see that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 This covers most of what is required Anything less than 10,000 pounds requires (1) tie down in the front and (1) tie down in the rear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 12 hours ago, Gearclash said: Regarding the straps, not my first choice for securing a tractor BUT back when I read up on cargo securement I saw nothing that specifically forbade straps. The only stipulation was sufficient load rating of the securement for the cargo weight. My rule of thumb is straps are good up to 10K loads any thing over that is chain for me I always try to use at least one chain on the under 10K stuff The problem with straps is the tags need to be readable for the working load and they get damaged easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, jeeper61 said: My rule of thumb is straps are good to up 10K loads any thing over that is chain for me I always try to use at least one chain on the under 10K stuff The problem with straps is the tags need to be readable for the working load and they get damaged easily I am so glad you are such an expert and sharing all of your wisdom with us!! Now give it a rest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5488Duke Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Word I got was the tractors were from the Hageman collection and that the steering box failed on the semi causing the driver to lose all steering. Driver was ok I heard. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 18 minutes ago, 5488Duke said: Word I got was the tractors were from the Hageman collection and that the steering box failed on the semi causing the driver to lose all steering. Driver was ok I heard. Nothing was going to save that load if that is what happened. A failure like that, it’s a small miracle no one was killed. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Lazy WP said: I am so glad you are such an expert and sharing all of your wisdom with us!! Now give it a rest. Somebody piss on your cornflakes this morning? There are a lot of ignorant farmers and wanna be truckers out there, I have family that drives on the road too... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtBoyz07 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Dang that is to bad , glad to hear they are all ok 👍 Don’t want to add insult to the injury but when I seen those tractors all down in the trees smashed I knew they where not tied correct and when I just seen the 2” Ratchet straps under the trailer that was holding those tractors down 😳😳😞😞 Anything over 10,000 lbs has to have 4 chains and binders per unit , and they have to pull forward and backwards . I feel bad for this guy and I’m sure he didn’t know that he had to tie the stuff down like that and lucky there not dead , the tractors can be fixed , there are lots of parts around . ‘Danny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 17 hours ago, Sledgehammer said: Those were the three I just put together but had not posted. 756 german engine is telltale. White seat and Goodyear tires on the 1256. Tires on the 1026. I concur. You can see the 1026 hydro transmission in the one photo. 756 engine is a tell. White seat made me think 1256 too. Sad reminder of what can happen on the road. Thankfully the driver is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 17 hours ago, Sledgehammer said: Those were the three I just put together but had not posted. 756 german engine is telltale. White seat and Goodyear tires on the 1256. Tires on the 1026. I concur. You can see the 1026 hydro transmission in the one photo. 756 engine is a tell. White seat made me think 1256 too. Sad reminder of what can happen on the road. Thankfully the driver is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 17 hours ago, Sledgehammer said: Those were the three I just put together but had not posted. 756 german engine is telltale. White seat and Goodyear tires on the 1256. Tires on the 1026. I concur. You can see the 1026 hydro transmission in the one photo. 756 engine is a tell. White seat made me think 1256 too. Sad reminder of what can happen on the road. Thankfully the driver is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drglinski Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Not to be a smartass, but maybe we should have a thread dedicated to properly loading a trailer and securing it for those that just don't know if there hasn't been already 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1256pickett Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, 5488Duke said: Word I got was the tractors were from the Hageman collection and that the steering box failed on the semi causing the driver to lose all steering. Driver was ok I heard. Glad to hear confirmation no one was hurt. If you have the contact I for one would like to pass my condolences on the loss of the tractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 7 minutes ago, drglinski said: Not to be a smartass, but maybe we should have a thread dedicated to properly loading a trailer and securing it for those that just don't know if there hasn't been already For cadets, hay string will do, just get all 4 corners and one piece for each attachment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 18 hours ago, Super A_sepa said: Shouldn't have been overweight with those three tractors. Almost looks like the 756 that was posted in the RU pic thread? Hope not. Hate to see it. There was only one 756 at the show, and this was it. So sad. My heart aches for those involved. Appears to be the 756 on the front, 1026 in middle and 1256 on the rear backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, drglinski said: Not to be a smartass, but maybe we should have a thread dedicated to properly loading a trailer and securing it for those that just don't know if there hasn't been already That would be a good idea I am no expert I just know what one of the old timers showed me He did some things that aren't required by law saying it's about self preservation you don't want that stuff in your sleeper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, jass1660 said: Somebody piss on your cornflakes this morning? There are a lot of ignorant farmers and wanna be truckers out there, I have family that drives on the road too... Come show me how to secure my loads please. How many chains am I supposed to have for 4699 gallon of ATS? Or 60,000 pounds of wheat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 minutes ago, Lazy WP said: Come show me how to secure my loads please. How many chains am I supposed to have for 4699 gallon of ATS? Or 60,000 pounds of wheat? I understand you have made poor life choices but no need to bring snarkiness here... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 I'm just sad this occurred on what appears to have been a great weekend celebrating the red tractors we love, thanking the Lord there wasn't worse injuries or loss of life but not downplaying how devastating this must be to those involved 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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