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Got a situation going on at work. Had a 4 man crew in the shop at the start of the summer. Had one young kid quit that has been there for about three years to go work for a farmer. We have another guy that's been at the shop for 7 years that has started taking around a month off at harvest time to pick his own crop. Now it's just going to be me and the service manager there to work on about 20 combines and whatever else breaks down during this harvest. Think it's time to sit down with management and say more compensation is needed with all this added work? I've been there 15 years so it's not like I haven't been dedicated.

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1 hour ago, 756puller said:

I'm thinking it's time thier pay scale hasn't been updated since the early 90's I know.

How much has their service rate gone up since then?

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Wages are up everywhere, and seems like every industry is in need of help and retaining help.   Yeah the ball is in your court.  

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3 minutes ago, 756puller said:

That's the case every where, had a cat guy apply here a while back probably ten years experience and they offered him starting out $20 an hour

The guys that I know, started with the Ag dealer, quit and went across the river to the construction dealer in Missouri and quit there to join the union,. They go to work for a contractor that supplies them a service truck, that they drive home every day and they are making 35-40 an hour plus overtime and benefits 

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13 minutes ago, Alan Dinan said:

The guys that I know, started with the Ag dealer, quit and went across the river to the construction dealer in Missouri and quit there to join the union,. They go to work for a contractor that supplies them a service truck, that they drive home every day and they are making 35-40 an hour plus overtime and benefits 

no brainer

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Honest question here - Why are shop rates so high? I have always wondered why when it is obviously not because they are giving a large percentage of it to the technician. Is it overhead? Insurance? Training costs? Something else? It seems like the dealer taking over $100/hr cut is a lot. 

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1 minute ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

Honest question here - Why are shop rates so high? I have always wondered why when it is obviously not because they are giving a large percentage of it to the technician. Is it overhead? Insurance? Training costs? Something else? It seems like the dealer taking over $100/hr cut is a lot. 

Probably all of the above.

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25 minutes ago, 756puller said:

That's the case every where, had a cat guy apply here a while back probably ten years experience and they offered him starting out $20 an hour

My son is making that or near that as nite shift team lead at walmart. Granted it's like trying herd cats most of the time but still. Wife was making 20 as a receptionist at a dental office. It took her 15 or 20 years to get to that level but still. Point is as you know 20 an hour ain't what it used to be and with record inflation.....

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5 minutes ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

Honest question here - Why are shop rates so high? I have always wondered why when it is obviously not because they are giving a large percentage of it to the technician. Is it overhead? Insurance? Training costs? Something else? It seems like the dealer taking over $100/hr cut is a lot. 

Costs can really run up when you have a building payment, insurance, inventory, special tools, company vehicles, and loans 

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10 minutes ago, AKwelder said:

Costs can really run up when you have a building payment, insurance, inventory, special tools, company vehicles, and loans 

I get that, but, there are lots of dealers around here that have over ten guys in the shop. Just ten guys working 40 hours a week is $40K a week to the dealer. It really seems like the technicians around here deserve at least a little more than I know they get. 

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19 minutes ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

really seems like the technicians around here deserve at least a little more than I know they get. 

Well that is probably true in a lot of cases.

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2 hours ago, 756puller said:

Got a situation going on at work. Had a 4 man crew in the shop at the start of the summer. Had one young kid quit that has been there for about three years to go work for a farmer. We have another guy that's been at the shop for 7 years that has started taking around a month off at harvest time to pick his own crop. Now it's just going to be me and the service manager there to work on about 20 combines and whatever else breaks down during this harvest. Think it's time to sit down with management and say more compensation is needed with all this added work? I've been there 15 years so it's not like I haven't been dedicated.

What is the age of the person making the decision on compensation?

Younger managers are of the world that you make money by moving around from 1 opportunity to the next, not by staying in the same spot for 10 years or longer and getting raises,  keep that in mind.

Another thing i was talking with my local indy mechanic,  that i see at alot of dealerships in construction (CAT DEERE) is, those are great first job opportunities to get experience and so forth, but if you want to make $$$ you have to own the shop and take the risk.   This guy is a sharp mechanic but he is spending alot of time doing oil changes on old chevys when he can troubleshoot a modern landrover better than a dealer.    Have to be smart about the work you do and gravitate to where YOUR shop rate is reflective of your experience and toolset.   You can do oil changes, but, not for 34.99 or that type of work may hinder your ability to take on more profitable ventures.

Id poke around and see what other options are out there, and do some investigation before i talk about salary at a place im already at just so that if it gets heated or they take it as you being "ungreatful"  you are prepared with your options and can act in a professional way.

 

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The age of the dealer owner is probably early 60s and his son is 30. Don't think money's to much of a problem have a big main house, a river cabin, vacation house in Arizona and a plane to go fly around in.

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Apply somewhere else and see what they offer it will give you lots of bargaining power but be prepared to go if need be . I went to a new place for $5 more once 11 months later old place offered $5 more than that to come back . 

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Average A&P mechanic at a major airline is making in the 90k range. Our guys, granted very experienced and with a lot of responsibility are way north of 150. There's no reason a good and experienced diesel mechanic shouldn't be making 90 or more depending on location.

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If you have talent, how about a tool box in your pickup and become a regional mechanic? You can charge less with less overhead, all you need is a couple accident prone clients, and if you’re any good word will travel on ahead of you; you’ll have more work than you know what to do with.

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