AngrySailor Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Ok fellas, new thread for more random stuff, here’s some pics of that John Deere king pin all fixed up and ready to go. No we see if he shows uP with the cash... Also working on the old ‘75 Harley. She’s got a strange noise which I first thought was the kick starter ratchet however the noise is still present while in gear with the clutch in (transmission not spinning now). It’s intermittent and seems to be only present while just off idle. The bike sat near 18 years so I thought maybe surface rust on the crankshafts roller bearings might be the issue. I pulled the tappet oil screen, it’s clean, pulled the oil bag filter and put a magnet in the dirty side, got a few little metallic flecks (pic below) but nothing real bad. Checked end play and vertical play. Seems the manual specs a little end play (which seems odd for tapered roller bearings) but I bet they do this so when the aluminum crank cases get hot and expand, the preload becomes correct? I’ve never been that deep into a Harley shovel head before... I think I’ll pull the cam Cover next as the noise seemed louder at the oil pump (near the cam cover) and all the serious workings are over there also (cam, followers, rotary breather and oil/scavenge pump... any suggestions from the Harley fellas are welcome! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Not much moss grows in PEI I see 😁 Awesome job machining, nice to see your skills, you must be in high demand, I would think job offers constantly coming in... The shovel should have a metal timed breather, they switched to plastic later on but will still scuff the bore in case, doubt it's your problem, do you have an oil pressure guage anywhere, they need very little pressure being dry sump system and almost all roller bearings throughout, shovels used to have some lifter issues occasionally, velvatouch was supreme but they were spendy over a decade ago, maybe it has solids in it? Anyway happy to see another thread, you had a lot of interest, think I mentioned that Ray guy from the maritimes, he did nice work on older V twin stuff, he came up with a pretty original looking way of stuffing a modern alternator into an old generator casing which was a nice improvement, we all love thinkers with some skills... Ray did a lot of work on his brother's Panhead, like drooling nice, one day his brother stopped by a dealer and they offered him a new bike straight across, think that bothered him a touch, I know it would have me, anybody can buy a new bike but those are a tad bit rarer now...I wouldn't have entertained the deal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, hardtail said: Not much moss grows in PEI I see 😁 Awesome job machining, nice to see your skills, you must be in high demand, I would think job offers constantly coming in... The shovel should have a metal timed breather, they switched to plastic later on but will still scuff the bore in case, doubt it's your problem, do you have an oil pressure guage anywhere, they need very little pressure being dry sump system and almost all roller bearings throughout, shovels used to have some lifter issues occasionally, velvatouch was supreme but they were spendy over a decade ago, maybe it has solids in it? Anyway happy to see another thread, you had a lot of interest, think I mentioned that Ray guy from the maritimes, he did nice work on older V twin stuff, he came up with a pretty original looking way of stuffing a modern alternator into an old generator casing which was a nice improvement, we all love thinkers with some skills... Ray did a lot of work on his brother's Panhead, like drooling nice, one day his brother stopped by a dealer and they offered him a new bike straight across, think that bothered him a touch, I know it would have me, anybody can buy a new bike but those are a tad bit rarer now...I wouldn't have entertained the deal Hey HT, jobs are slowly coming in, could be busier but fella was happy and paid the bill with a smile today. He didn’t think I could do what I told him I was going to do so hopefully being a small community that word spreads. Also had good news from my sailors union and transport Canada today. It looks like I may soon be able to ply my trade as Marine Engineer soon after a year of resisting the jibby jab. Hey, there’s a war in Ukraine, CoronAIDS is yesterday’s news after all... and what about those gas Prices! Who can afford masks at that! My shovel 99% has a metal breather and for sure has hydraulic lifters. Oil pressure was near 50psi summer cold start with SAE50, 8-10psi idle hot, 20psi cruise. No idea what a “velvatouch” is... enlighten me! And no way I’d trade something I built for something you need a computer to fix or they can shut off over wifi. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hardtail Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 https://velvatouchlifters.com/ These were supposed to be the best lifters for Shovelhead, has oiling options also, they were pretty pricey 20 yrs ago For another Canuck who was going nuts with Shovelhead stuff with his own bullet machined engines check out Sorenson Performance out of SK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, hardtail said: https://velvatouchlifters.com/ These were supposed to be the best lifters for Shovelhead, has oiling options also, they were pretty pricey 20 yrs ago For another Canuck who was going nuts with Shovelhead stuff with his own bullet machined engines check out Sorenson Performance out of SK Cool I’ll check it out. I have a set of 8.5:1 pistons for it (shes 7.4:1 stock rn). I can cut the jugs and heads for 9:1 with those but I’m kick start only and have a titanium right leg held with 4 screws... also have an andrews cam and spring set destined for it (bought a few years ago) and never got around to installing it as I was away summers or too busy riding it. I had hoped to re-wire the bike and freshen/beef the motor a little this past winter then the Detroitson happened... I planned to ride this summer then tackle the engine in the fall but I think she’s asking for attention now. I can’t ignore it and risk unnecessary damage but sugar tits(gf from Ontario) is coming end of July so I may have to thrash a rebuild before then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 @Dasnake should have lots of shovel knowledge and advice, he has had his forever and only runs the best, man works calling, sugar almost on her way, things not looking good dead ahead 😁 I've got an old school shovel project, this might motivate me this winter... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, hardtail said: man works calling, sugar almost on her way, things not looking good dead ahead 😁 Casey Jones you better watch your speed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 A girl that knows when to wear heels 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 I got banned from another site for calling a fella English slang for a cigarette. He was being worthy of being called this mind you. I was asked to apologize by a jannie and sent pic below instead. Thought it was funny but that dill weed CraigA gave me a lifetime ban. GFYM 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I remember Snake saying he got flashed riding his Shovel, starting to look like a trend, shovels give the ladies happy mammories 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Don't go too crazy with your compression, greybeards said low compression not performance, here is the results of slightly above 9:1 on a panhead which under closer examination that casting was very thin on one side, panhead jugs may have been a bit weaker than later shovels, must admit when it let go it was the perfect storm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 My 85 Wideglide has a pillow seat just like that with sissy bar, that could have been stock, way more comfortable than the Fatboy solo style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike newman Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 4:42 PM, hardtail said: A girl that knows when to wear heels ..thought she was going to move her bowels....they do that...don't they ??? Mike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Need to get the titanium replaced with something heavier like SS if you are going high compression with kickstart! LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Working on this FIAT tractor today, I repaired the seized up tachometer, just ordering a New cable for it now. It’s metric ends so that took some searching to find a supplier who could get them and crimp the cable for me. Had to go halfway across the country for it. Also have to look at the hand priming pump as it’s rusty and leaking. Either rebuild it or eliminate it as the owner says it’s not really necessary. Had a little confusion at the shop this morning. A fella asked why his forklift was here... told him buddy said he bought it and wanted it fixed. Turns Out same guy sold the truck twice lol! Pretty sure it was an honest mistake but told the fella who dropped it off sort it out before I work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 13 hours ago, hardtail said: Don't go too crazy with your compression, greybeards said low compression not performance, here is the results of slightly above 9:1 on a panhead which under closer examination that casting was very thin on one side, panhead jugs may have been a bit weaker than later shovels, must admit when it let go it was the perfect storm I hope you still have your family Jewels after that explosion... im thinking 8.5:1 will be my limit. Super gas isn’t at every station here so that’s a consideration also. Pretty sure it’s an Andrews A2 cam I have for it. 242/248 with 0.450” lift. Not crazy but a wee bit more than stock... the duration should help keep cylinder pressures down while kick starting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I was extremely lucky and unfortunate at the same time, had new S&S cases to the tune of $1K in the 90's, had run a dizzy but was a bit erratic and worn out, had switched to a mag when this happened which was the best ignition system, the problem was mine had no trigger option so kicking the mag is only turning half engine speed and was almost impossible to start with the kick, I did live on a big hill but any journey would mean every stop was on another...this day I was almost home slowed down to cross the rough railway crossing on the rigid and missed a gear, so upon releasing the clutch was in a higher gear, pulled the clutch in downshifted and perhaps got too happy with the right hand, cylinder had loaded up with fuel and when the mags fire relit kaboom, was 2 miles from home running on 1 hole. Upon examination, pushrod covers were gone, falling out after the lifting, but it was the rear cylinder which failed and with very tight fit did not lift enough for the piston to come out of the sleeve and wipe the cases, new cylinder immediately bored to 60 over to match the other jug and re use the slug, running a Mallory utility electronic distributor now, not quite the performance but dead reliable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 “No trigger option” I assume you mean starting impulse? I have mags on several old tractors and stationary engines. They wind up a spring and snap the rotor at low rpm this also gives you a starting retard. You don’t have to spin them fast at all, most times just pull over compression and SNAP they’re running. Got that Fiat fuel Leak fixed. Simple solution... the owner said he’s never had to use that pump and doesn’t care if it works, just stop the leak. It’s pretty rusted up and wrecked so would be a lot of machining to repair properly. Lucky a 5/16-24 tap winds into the base fitting and a set screw with sealant eliminates the leaky areas without affecting anything else. Kinda a neat tractor ... needs a seat though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Yes no impulse, no windup, no spring, no snap, probably would work on e start, but that would only be genny cases, 65-69 that applied, another treasure in parts boxes, mag really is the ideal ignition system...that looks just like the Ford hundred series 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 Tractor run today. Took a pair of 8N fords for the majority of the run. Peeled off and grabbed the Detroitson to show it off a little when the crew lands back at home base. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 Running pops for pink slips! 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 Tearing into the old ‘75 FX this morning. Cam cover off, she’s already got an aftermarket cam installed, wonder what else has been done to it... factory these were 7.4:1 compression, I was pretty sure she’s never been bored so I put a set of 8.5:1 slugs in stock and an Andrews A2 (which is likely hotter that the older grind that’s in it, I’ll have to measure and degree it to know what it is though). Now I’m wondering if she’s had bore/pistons done previously... I pulled her apart due to a strange noise I thought may be main/rod bearings but so far everything looks good, no surface rust under the cam cover. Debating whether or not to remove the top end so I can check the rods and mains. Leaning towards this as of now then I can see what pistons are in her and go from there. The new cam also required guide clearancing to be safe so I may just tear it down and touch uP the valves and heads while I’m at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySailor Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 Guess she’s coming apart... whoever installed this cam Messed up the end play adjustment and made a mess. Who knows what else isn’t right now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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