Ericlj350 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 New to the forum. Just bought a 5240 with case 520 self leveling loader on it. I have a few questions about things I'd like imput on if possible. First, the 520 is SL. Is there a way to make this a NSL? Not a fan of self leveling loaders on our farm. Can I leave the extra supports and just do away with the block? I've been messing with the controls and the 3 point does not move using the lever. The dial seems to be unresponsive. The only way it will move is with the small joystick type control. It lowers very slowly like a bleed off. But seems to raise with speed and power. Not alot of info about this tractor. It's a 1992 model with almost 12k hours. The final thing right now. I have no blower fan. Do I need to remove the roof to replace the fan and the fan resistor? The wiper works so I'm assuming the relay is good. Last owner stated it worked on high. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Should not be much of a challenge to get rid of self-leveling. Just figure out a way of disconnecting the linkage at the back of the loader and a way to keep the rest of the linkage in a fixed position. If you just let it flop I think the bucket won't roll back enough anymore, plus it will be impossible to control angle as it will want to flop up. On the 3pt, the joystick control is the raise-lower. The lever is the position control. You set it to the level you want the 3pt to drop to, and click the joystick ahead to lower it to that preset level, or you can adjust the depth using that lever with the joystick clicked forward. The 3pt does not have down pressure so it lowers slowly with no weight on it. As long as it comes down there is nothing wrong. Dial is the draft control. How that works I don't know. On several occasions I've been plowing along and the front of the plow just raises out of the ground for no reason. I have touched nothing. Last time I used it I just set it all the way to position and left it there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitty Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I had a 520 self leveling and a 510 non self leveling. I won't ever have a non self leveling again. Too slow of cycle times when it takes oil to level while using oil to raise . Uses more fuel that way also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I've used both self leveling and non self leveling. My 2 cents is they just take getting used to. If there is ever a chance you are going to sell the loader put your parts in a safe place. With missing parts it is going to bring much less then if correct and complete. I have a 5250 with a Woods loader painted to look like a cih loader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericlj350 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 To stop the self level would I be able to remove the hydraulic valving for the dump cylinders then hook the uppers and lowers to their respective places? Could the upper brackets get a pin and plate through them and weld them solid? The welds could be cut if it ever needed to be self level again. The self leveling work for some but I've got to teach a old dog new tricks. Might be easier to do some welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takn4aFool Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 personally for me self leveling is the only way to go. had a older, and by older mean a late 70's early 80's Gehl skid steer with self leveling bucket. can't say that it ever took any getting used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicegrip Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 yes if i remember correctly you need to remove cab roof to get to the bolts that hold the rear cover where the fan is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 3:41 PM, Ericlj350 said: To stop the self level would I be able to remove the hydraulic valving for the dump cylinders then hook the uppers and lowers to their respective places? What hydraulic valving? I thought the 520 was all mechanical. Just remove the long link along the top and figure out a way to secure the floppy triangle part... Drill and pin, weld, whatever you feel most comfortable with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxum 140 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 there should be a hole in the loader all you need are those pieces that are shown in the picture on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Matt Kirsch said: What hydraulic valving? I thought the 520 was all mechanical. Just remove the long link along the top and figure out a way to secure the floppy triangle part... Drill and pin, weld, whatever you feel most comfortable with. There is a relief valve used to divert oil from bucket cylinders to the lift circuit when curled back all the way and lowering it further as it has to dump slightly as it goes down at the bottom of the stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bitty said: There is a relief valve used to divert oil from bucket cylinders to the lift circuit when curled back all the way and lowering it further as it has to dump slightly as it goes down at the bottom of the stroke Oh, makes sense. To my way of thinking you should not have to mess with that unless you absolutely want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Matt Kirsch said: Oh, makes sense. To my way of thinking you should not have to mess with that unless you absolutely want to. If you have the loader all the way down it only curls back so far because of a stop at the bottom of the loader arms . If you curl it back all the way 1/4 the way up it goes further. Then as you lower the loader it would hit the stop and as you go down it interferes with the stop more without the safety valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sresites Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 See if this outfit would part out the two brackets you need. Looks like a 510 or 520 loader to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxum 140 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 there are alot of those loaders in salvage yards around me in South Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericlj350 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 2:34 PM, maxxum 140 said: there are alot of those loaders in salvage yards around me in South Dakota I'm also in South Dakota. I've checked woth a few yards and havnt been able to locate one yet. Also looking for a bale spear to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxum 140 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 did you try Meyer's in Aberdeen last time I was there they had a couple 510, 520, and L300's which all the self leveling pieces should be the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Ericlj350 said: I'm also in South Dakota. I've checked woth a few yards and havnt been able to locate one yet. Also looking for a bale spear to fit. Is the bucket quick attach or pin on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericlj350 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 Quick attach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 2:03 AM, bitty said: Is the bucket quick attach or pin on? 5 hours ago, Ericlj350 said: Quick attach Probably hard to find one but pretty easy to fabricate. Build squares tubing rectangle. Use angle iron to hang on the top tube with a cap on each end , then two flat plates with the holes that latch it on . Best to have a little clearance for the pins so it will be easier to take off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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