brian falcone Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 I'm in rhode island. My father still has decades worth of international parts but the problem is finding them. There's nonorder to his garage. Tomorrow ill bring my pressure washer there and see if I can blast all the crude out from the transmission area and under the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 I've located a same year td9 with hydraulic pump. Would that machine use the same Pump as this td6 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 Here's some pics of my pump. The Crack goes all the way through and appears the have been repaired once before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray54 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Seeing Drott on the tag if the TD9 had a Drott loader it could the same. I can see it getting out of line welding it but not very costly to weld and see. The insides look like a Hydrco brand pump I have been in off a AC dozer from the 50's. Any clue what caused the break? Have done a google search of the numbers on the pump, if your lucky it might tell the out put and pressure it was designed for. And if real luck someplace looking to sell one. The only pump I ever broke like that was a cheap vane pump and had a old valve that the by pass was rusted stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 hydreco under license to drott? if the same loader k6/vs k9 but likely larger in vol and rpm/psi....wider bolt pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 I'm thinking water got in there and it froze? I don't see any damage to the shaft inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9inidaho Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 That would be my guess as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Worst case scenario would be to get it tig welded and see what happens. I think you would want to minimize heat input when welding. Not much in that system to trash with debris if the pump shells out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9bcf180 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Your pump looks very similar to a Commercial (Shearing) pump I had on a 65 Pettibone Super 8 Cary Lift. I still have the parts book (not the machine) with 3 or 4 pages of pump views/parts if it's any help to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWF Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Hydreco pump was common back in the day. I had one in an HD-6 Allis and I think one in an early TD-9 Drott. The Allis was a loader too. DWF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Not sure why it posted the pics again. Anyway pump cover was welded today and I'll install it tomorrow after work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Let us know how it turns out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Well....pump cover is on. Still seeping from where reapur was made. Also....no hydraulic movement. Engine doesn't even bog down when lever is moved. I'm assuming hydraulic filter is in the hydraulic tank under the cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brian falcone Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 On to another problem...now I'm sure water got in here and froze. This has broken of of the loader control valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brian falcone Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 Also....I can turn the gears in the pump by hand about 1/4 of a turn....that normal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Hydraulic valve was repaired and cleaned up. Also tidy up the compartment so I won't have to go in here later. Still trying to source a hydraulic pump. The cover was brazed by a shop but I haven't had time to install it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawleigh99 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Well, you have been busy. Sorry I don't have any information for you, but keep us informed on what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 I found plenty of 61 and 62 series machines. But they changed quite a bit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 Ok....pump cover was repaired again...still a tiny leak. Valve was installed and machine started . Just idling on gas the line going from the pump to the valve block built up pressure and the flared end broke off the line and Freddy and I got a nice hydraulic bath....so. we checked out the relief valve and found the spring broken in 2 places. I trip to every local hydraulic shop got is nothing but states from the workers . All local shops say they have no idea where to source parts for this machine so I'm at a cross road....I cannot find anything local nor have several of the popular salvage yards have anything that works. I found 2 parts machine. One is a 62 series which won't work the other is 1400 Miles away. It's either I sit on it and see what turns up or I part it out. Motor runs great. Body isn't all beat up and pads and chains are good. Not sure what to do at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Could you just get a generic pump and generic open center 2 spool valve to replace everything? I know this is all easier said than done and with the rest of the machine in unknown mechanical condition is a bit of a gamble. That would be my only suggestion and possibly the only thing that can be done in the absence of parts availability. I had a Case/Davis trencher that we had all kinds of hydraulic problems with. No parts available from Case, so we put a generic backhoe valve on it to solve the parts problem. That undoubtedly would make an excellent parts machine with that undercarriage, but I just hate to see machines parted out. They aren’t going to ever make any more and there will just be one less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 The pump I'm not too worried about. Worst case I have a new cover machined or fit something else in there. The valve is bugging me. The steel formed lines will make swapping anything else in there a bit difficult. In all honesty I'm not worried about the steering clutches which I assume are stuck. I know I can get those parts. I. Just surprised there's almost nothing out there for hydraulic parts. About 20 years back I knew of at least 4 of these machines within an hour of my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 It doesn’t sound like you’re afraid of the work. I’m sure you could replace the steel lines with hoses. That would make the generic valve install a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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