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TD-8G brake/steering shoe and backup shoe relining specs


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Hi folks,
I thought that starting a new thread for this particular issue would be wise.
Per the discussion in this (LINK) thread, I need to have my shoes and backup pads relined. I have gotten quotes from several places, but they want $1500 to do 8 friction plates. This is pretty high, even for right now.

If I am to approach local places about doing it, they need information regarding the friction material thickness. I can't seem to find this anywhere. One of the members was kind enough to measure his when new, 0.145"-0.147" (thanks @Kevingweq!). I could go off of this, but I am curious if anyone here has worked in one of these shops to know where to get the information regarding thickness and material type. These are wet friction pads.

I must admit that I am tempted to do these myself. I have a shop oven and a hydraulic press, and at the moment I have more time than money. I've done dry riveted pads in the past which have held up well; I know these are different critters but if you read the datasheets well on adhesive and lining and follow directions precisely, I don't see why this couldn't be an in-house operation.

Thanks for any tips, I really appreciate it.

Part numbers (notice that the shoe assemblies have matching part numbers, as do the back-up shoes)(thanks @vtfireman85for the manual pages!):
Brake shoe assembly: 1244 967 H91
Brake back-up shoe: 1244 903 H91
Steering shoe assembly: 1244 967 H91
Steering back-up shoe: 1244 903 H91
If I could just get OEM part numbers for the liners, I could reach out to more shops.

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If you mean the friction material, I am unsure. I can't find part numbers for the friction material, and I can't even really figure out where to ask.
If you mean the shoe and back-up pad, these are very large pieces with integrated bearings. The following video shows what they look like:

 

 

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A long shot but check if General Gear has any information or maybe even parts. As there big thing has become after market steer clutch plates. But they started as a used parts dealer. I have never used them but many reports of them being very helpful.

 

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12 hours ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

I have dealt with Blue Ridge Tractor in Benton, Illinois a little bit. I know @m.c.farmerboy said he has a good Dressta dealer. Maybe a dealer can help?

Ive had excellent luck with my dealer/s. Its not like JD, you can still get parts. I can’t say what the cost difference might possibly be, but if i had the option to buy factory vs aftermarket or DIY, considering the time involved it seems like money well spent from my perspective. To each their own. 

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Fungas, Kevin has the thickness for the TD7, 100 series, the clutch and brake shoe lining for those tractors is .141-0.147. The TD8 may have thicker lining. I had my 100C shoes relined (years ago) and it was not cheap then, make sure whoever does the relining uses the right adhesive, one of the lining peeled off of one of the shoes they did, they did make it good but it was time pulling it down again, they have been working perfect now for over 20 years. Make sure whoever does the relining knows that they are a wet shoe and the type of oil used. There is no specification on the material thickness in the IH service manual.

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On 4/21/2022 at 7:57 AM, Fungus said:

Hi folks,
I thought that starting a new thread for this particular issue would be wise.
Per the discussion in this (LINK) thread, I need to have my shoes and backup pads relined. I have gotten quotes from several places, but they want $1500 to do 8 friction plates. This is pretty high, even for right now.

If I am to approach local places about doing it, they need information regarding the friction material thickness. I can't seem to find this anywhere. One of the members was kind enough to measure his when new, 0.145"-0.147" (thanks @Kevingweq!). I could go off of this, but I am curious if anyone here has worked in one of these shops to know where to get the information regarding thickness and material type. These are wet friction pads.

I must admit that I am tempted to do these myself. I have a shop oven and a hydraulic press, and at the moment I have more time than money. I've done dry riveted pads in the past which have held up well; I know these are different critters but if you read the datasheets well on adhesive and lining and follow directions precisely, I don't see why this couldn't be an in-house operation.

Thanks for any tips, I really appreciate it.

Part numbers (notice that the shoe assemblies have matching part numbers, as do the back-up shoes)(thanks @vtfireman85for the manual pages!):
Brake shoe assembly: 1244 967 H91
Brake back-up shoe: 1244 903 H91
Steering shoe assembly: 1244 967 H91
Steering back-up shoe: 1244 903 H91
If I could just get OEM part numbers for the liners, I could reach out to more shops.

Winmill equipment, Bob is the owner sharpest man around these parts on Dresser stuff, If you want send me a PM and I will get you his info I think they have dealerships in VT. and NH. still  He has been very Helpful to me over the years and loves to shear his 60 plus years of knowledge He is real sharp on IH ,Dresser and Komatsu as well as Drester

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I fixed one of them years back that the lining fell off. I used john deere 4020 brake pads with the steel backing (r111122).

I drilled and taped, i believe 10-32, then used tapered head allen screws to hold them on. It's been about 10 year now with no problems.  

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