mr. IH Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Anniversary of 1974 100 with 401. This is my salesman and dad ,my first new pickup. He is now 98 years old !!! 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Congratulations to both of you!! That is a nice truck!! Very well kept I like those 401s they sure could make a AMX move I am sure it does a good job in your truck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9bcf180 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 x2. Congrats to you both. Very, very nice truck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. IH Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 15 hours ago, jeeper61 said: Congratulations to both of you!! That is a nice truck!! Very well kept I like those 401s they sure could make a AMX move I am sure it does a good job in your truck This 401 is very strong. There was no other pickup could out run !! Has 63000 miles and still running strong. It was a 120 mph truck. surprised alot of 454 s and 460 s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. IH Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 11 hours ago, td9bcf180 said: x2. Congrats to you both. Very, very nice truck! Thank you so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Very nice truck. Thanks for posting the pics. Are the wheels original? Thx-Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. IH Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, acem said: Very nice truck. Thanks for posting the pics. Are the wheels original? Thx-Ace The wheels are off of a scout Aristocrat. Most accessories' I had to instal. back then factory didnt instal. We had to order out of parts room . Bumber gaurd,front lites,rails back bumber,slider rear glass where some of them. Only IH fans notice !!! thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I've never heard of a scout ambassador. Sliding rear glass was optional on loadstars but I've never seen one except in the parts book and sales literature... Thx-Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I always liked the Rambler/American Motors engines, good engineering and reliable in a car BUT I never understood why IHC would replace a truck motor in a pickup with the car motor, and market it as an extra cost option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2022 at 3:47 PM, oleman said: I always liked the Rambler/American Motors engines, good engineering and reliable in a car BUT I never understood why IHC would replace a truck motor in a pickup with the car motor, and market it as an extra cost option! What really is a truck engine? I would think it is one that is used in a truck as a 401, 360 and 304 AMC v8s have been in Jeep pick ups since the 60's And Chevy, Ford and Dodge have used their "car" motors in trucks with great success While I happen to like IH SV motors, performance wise I will take the Nash Trash I think IH had capacity problems so they sourced from their current supplier of inline sixes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 My real issue is that I had been an IH fan since the 50's.The V266/304/345 were specifically built for a medium duty truck line and back loaded into their pickup line basically because they were a truck company so they built truck engines. It was one of the last nails in the coffin of the light duty International vehicles because they alienated people who knew why people purchased IHC light duties in the first place. Was the first step in the "gone out of business path" for the entire IHC operation. They were not capacity limited. they were buyer limited because of their inability to recognize their place in the market and no concept of protecting the market share they did have. Their sales had already tanked prior to them outsourcing their engine line! This is not 2020 hindsight, I was there and saw it all going down as it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. IH Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 On 4/5/2022 at 10:40 PM, acem said: I've never heard of a scout ambassador. Sliding rear glass was optional on loadstars but I've never seen one except in the parts book and sales literature... Thx-Ace That was a Scout Aristocrat. It was a "dolled up scout 800" I also have a IH 200 4x4 with the sliding rear window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. IH Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, oleman said: My real issue is that I had been an IH fan since the 50's.The V266/304/345 were specifically built for a medium duty truck line and back loaded into their pickup line basically because they were a truck company so they built truck engines. It was one of the last nails in the coffin of the light duty International vehicles because they alienated people who knew why people purchased IHC light duties in the first place. Was the first step in the "gone out of business path" for the entire IHC operation. They were not capacity limited. they were buyer limited because of their inability to recognize their place in the market and no concept of protecting the market share they did have. Their sales had already tanked prior to them outsourcing their engine line! This is not 2020 hindsight, I was there and saw it all going down as it happened. IH was using most of there big injines (392) in the Loadstars. They where already using the AMC 6 cly. ( 232 ,258 ) thats why they added the 401,in 100 (1/2 tons only) and only for 1 year. They only made around 1500 units. Started in 73 1/2 and went to 74 1/2. ( The 73 1/2 had torsion bar suspension ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Dave Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/13/2022 at 6:48 AM, jeeper61 said: What really is a truck engine? That,s a good Q. My understanding is short stroke for trucks =lugging power and long stroke for hot rods. What do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, just Dave said: That,s a good Q. My understanding is short stroke for trucks =lugging power and long stroke for hot rods. What do you all think? Wouldn't it be the other way around? Long stroke = more torque = more lugging power 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Truck engines tend to have longer stroke for bore size, thicker cylinder walls, heavier castings, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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